Danish imam charged over call to kill Jews

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Source: France24

STOCKHOLM (AFP) -
Danish prosecutors on Tuesday charged an imam with calling for the killing of Jews in the first case of its kind in the Nordic nation and which sparked political outrage.

Imam Mundhir Abdallah, who preaches in the Copenhagen neighbourhood of Norrebro at the Masjid Al-Faruq mosque, which media have linked to radical Islam, is accused of citing a hadith or koranic narrative calling for Muslims to rise up against Jews.

"Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them," Abdallah said in a Facebook and YouTube video post in March.

Read more: http://www.france24.com/en/20180724-danish-imam-charged-over-call-kill-jews

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Once again, ignorant fear of the Jews

[JI7]

1. these people are so fucked up

[Snellius]

2. In Denmark, who resisted Nazi deportation of Jews in WWII

This is especially outrageous. Denmark was one of the few countries under Nazi rule to actively resist the deportation of Jews. 99% of Denmark's Jewish population survived the Holocaust. For religious fanatics to preach such race hatred in a country where they seek refuge, in one of the most tolerant countries in the world, only breeds the same kind of bigotry they espouse against themselves.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. How many non-muslims have they charged, ... with calling to kill muslims? Any? . . . nt

[DavidDvorkin]

4. How is this relevant?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Relevant because Denmark has swung right, maybe hard right, and I doubt there is even enforcement.

If there is uneven enforcement, then it is an indication of racism.

I hope you think racism is relevant subject matter.

[Shemp Howard]

7. Not relevant because of the level of his comment.

If Imam Abdallah had said something less outrageous, I might have agreed with you. I might have said that this story needs to be examined in a greater context.

But if "fight the Jews and kill them" is truly an exact quote, then this story must stand on its own. And the focus must be on the imam, alone.

Consider Roseanne's recent racist remarks. Some people tried to expand the story. What about Person A who said (whatever), and was not fired? What about Person B who said (whatever), and was not fired?

I do not find those comments to be relevant in Roseanne's case. Her remarks have to stand on their own, and be evaluated on their own. No side stories. No muddying of the waters. The same applies with Imam Abdallah.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. My comments are not a defense of the Imam's indefensible remarks.

I asked a question about balance. I did not assume, though I have an expectation, and wanted to check my expectation.

[Shemp Howard]

23. Yes, I'm sure of that.

I'm sure you were NOT trying to defend Imam Abdallah's remarks. 100% sure. What I was trying to point out in my post #7 is that sometimes side questions lead us astray. And then the original crime gets lost in the weeds, so to speak.

It's something we all do on occasion. Usually it's not a big deal, because the side questions can be helpful. But IMHO, not here. The imam's repulsive remarks put him in a special spotlight. And I don't think that spotlight should move off of him for a second.

Just my opinion.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Fair enough. Measured response. Thanks. . . . nt

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8. I believe this is the first time anyone has been charged.

Theres even an exemption for "quoting" from a religious book I think.
Of course, the Koran has verses about killing Jews. And pretty much everyone else too

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Thank you. I expect you are correct but I never like to assume, hence my question. . . . nt

[MicaelS]

10. Islam is the new darling of many on the Left.

No matter how opressive the behaviour that many of it's adherents engage it, it is anathema to criticize them, or their religion.

Seems like many can't live without being a champion of someone they believe is oppressed. If one does not exist, they will create one.

Bashing Christianity and Christians is perfectly fine with people since the creation of Marxism. Not to mention the self-hatred that many on the Left have for the West and their own Western Cultures in specific.

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11. Thank God you have 7k posts

Otherwise you may be given the boot as a "troll"
Your statement is true, and you'll Likely be savaged for it.
Odd how the very people who would probably be some of the first to be put to death by Islamists are also their staunchest defenders.

[MicaelS]

12. Thanks....

And you are absolutely correct on all accounts.

[LanternWaste]

14. It certainly needs to be perceived as such... regardless of accuracy.

"Your statement is true...."

It certainly needs to be perceived as such... regardless of accuracy, or the boots you're wearing. However, truth requires objective evidence to support it... not merely the colorful allegations.

Odd. Indeed.

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16. The fact is, the statement IS true. You have nothing to offer to an adult conversation.

SAD! Just like Trump......

[Shemp Howard]

13. That goes to the heart of my post #7.

There is some behavior that is so offensive - and so harmful - that it cannot be minimized or explained away. That behavior must stand on its own, and be examined on its own.

Imam Abdallah's "fight the Jews and kill them" comment certainly falls in that category.

And you are correct in that many on the Left feel the need to champion the underdog. That is, in general, a very admirable quality! But defending a hard-core Islamist is like a school board member defending a suspended teacher, one who is not very good at his job. You are doing your community more harm than good.

[EllieBC]

15. Wow. Can't let a Jew get any justice without whataboutism, can we?

I'm sure if this were a thread about a non-Muslim being charged for advocating the death of Muslims, it would 1000 replies long and all would be happy and no whataboutism would be here. Always very telling.

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17. Yes, number of replies is always a telling factor.

We see it often here. Someone says theyre a victim of hate crime X, 300 posts. Accuser found to have made up charge, 23 posts. Ignoring the damage done to real cases by a false one.

And the ignorant fear & condemnation of Jews across the world is something that still amazes me; considering how much of a NON threat Jews actually are compared to almost any other group; religious or otherwise.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. Not at all. My comments are not a defense of the Imam's indefensible remarks. . . . nt

[Orsino]

5. Gee, that's kind of a red flag. n/t

[Sunlei]

9. good that this is a crime there. knock his ignorant ass off facebook & youtube.

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18. Facebook has been so inconsistent with policing though!

Watching Zuckerberg try to explain away their mis-steps is uncomfortable.

[Sunlei]

19. hate needs to be reported on twitter & facebook. wish there were groups organized to

groups organized to report and post thousands & thousands of times on nazi, white supremacists twitter accounts & facebook accounts.