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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:59 AM Jul 2018

Brock Turner's sexual assault appeal: He intended 'outercourse,' not intercourse

Source: Washington Post

An attorney for Brock Turner, the former Stanford University swimmer convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman in 2016, launched a bid to overturn his client’s convictions before a panel of skeptical appellate judges Tuesday, arguing that Turner never intended to have sexual intercourse with the woman. He just wanted “outercourse,” attorney Eric S. Multhaup told the court in a brief and in oral arguments.

The distinction is central to Multhaup’s argument that Turner should not have been convicted of assault with intent to commit rape because, he claims, Turner’s clothes were on when two bicyclists saw him thrusting on top of the half-naked, unconscious woman. He argued that Turner was engaged only in “outercourse,” a “version of safe sex” with no “penile contact,” Multhaup explained, the Palo Alto Weekly reported.

The long-shot legal argument had three California 6th District Court of Appeal justices scratching their heads, according to multiple accounts of the hearing.

“I absolutely don’t understand what you are talking about,” Justice Franklin D. Elia told Multhaup, the San Jose Mercury News reported.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/07/26/brock-turners-sexual-assault-appeal-he-intended-outercourse-not-intercourse/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ccee12533494

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Brock Turner's sexual assault appeal: He intended 'outercourse,' not intercourse (Original Post) Calista241 Jul 2018 OP
"outercourse" Multhaup deserves to be laughed out of the courthouse for that BS. cstanleytech Jul 2018 #1
Oh yeah, OUTERCOURSE is fine. (heavy eye roll) forgotmylogin Jul 2018 #11
Just say no to this craziness. lark Jul 2018 #2
"Would"/"Wouldn't", "Outercourse"/"Intercourse"... ADX Jul 2018 #3
This has been going on way before Trump. christx30 Jul 2018 #18
Yeah, Bill had his moments... ADX Jul 2018 #19
they should send him back to jail for presenting THAT defense on appeal alone... hlthe2b Jul 2018 #4
hey moron NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #5
"Panel of skeptical appeals judges" louis-t Jul 2018 #6
and jaws dropped Pacifist Patriot Jul 2018 #7
"And if that doesn't convince you to offer clemency, Your Honors, Aristus Jul 2018 #8
He was planning on going to med school TexasBushwhacker Jul 2018 #17
Still doesn't make it any better! Initech Jul 2018 #9
Gotta give 'em credit for imagination keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #10
Right there with "affluenza"! Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2018 #12
Now I realize what that dog was doing to my leg packman Jul 2018 #13
'Outcourse' - yeah right. Just like that 'Affluenza' defense from few years ago. I call BS. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #14
Outercourse? I read that as "titty f*ck". mwooldri Jul 2018 #15
She's half naked and unconscious TexasBushwhacker Jul 2018 #16
The "Frottage Defense"? B Stieg Jul 2018 #20
If he wasn't intending to have intercourse, jb5150 Jul 2018 #21
Oh-Kay! jmowreader Jul 2018 #22
Oh, please. 3catwoman3 Jul 2018 #23
Whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, it is still a sexual assault. Just as madinmaryland Jul 2018 #24

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
11. Oh yeah, OUTERCOURSE is fine. (heavy eye roll)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jul 2018

By definition that would make the doctor molesting the wrestlers innocent as well. Hey, safe sex is not rape!



 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
3. "Would"/"Wouldn't", "Outercourse"/"Intercourse"...
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:08 AM
Jul 2018

...this is the quagmire of bullshit we've now been reduced to thanks to the orange buffoon.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
18. This has been going on way before Trump.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jul 2018

It just all depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is. Know what I mean?

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
19. Yeah, Bill had his moments...
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

...and I eye-rolled on the "is" comment as well as the "didn't inhale" one but Chump has taken shit to a whole 'nother level of absurdity.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. hey moron
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jul 2018

it's still sexual and it's still an assault.

(moron comment addressed to Brock Turner, not the OP)

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
8. "And if that doesn't convince you to offer clemency, Your Honors,
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jul 2018

I'm a very good swimmer. I hope you'll keep that in mind during your deliberations."

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
17. He was planning on going to med school
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jul 2018

Now there won't be a school in the US that will take him and even if he went to school in another country, he will never be able to practice in the US.

Too bad Brock. Go work on Wall Street. You'll fit right in.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
16. She's half naked and unconscious
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jul 2018

He wasn't convicted of rape. He was convicted of assault with intent to rape. Assuming she didn't take her own clothes off while unconscious, it seems to me he was convicted of the appropriate crime. While not technically "rape" at the time in California, he digitally penetrated her while she was extremely intoxicated, thus unable to give consent. That's still sexual assault and would still put him on the sex offender registry.

But you know what? Give him a new trial. This time he will get convicted again and the judge won't just give him 6 months in jail.

jb5150

(1,177 posts)
21. If he wasn't intending to have intercourse,
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:32 PM
Jul 2018

why did he lift her dress and remove her underwear? I guess I can't blame the lawyer for trying to defend his client, but that scumbag was definitely guilty, and got off pretty damn light for what he did.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
22. Oh-Kay!
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jul 2018

The idiot was convicted of sexual assault on an unconscious woman, and his defense is he only did “safe sex.”

Some people’s children really need some quality time washing prison dishes.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
24. Whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, it is still a sexual assault. Just as
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jul 2018

"grab them by the pussy" is sexual assault.

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