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Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:59 AM

Brock Turner's sexual assault appeal: He intended 'outercourse,' not intercourse

Source: Washington Post

An attorney for Brock Turner, the former Stanford University swimmer convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman in 2016, launched a bid to overturn his client’s convictions before a panel of skeptical appellate judges Tuesday, arguing that Turner never intended to have sexual intercourse with the woman. He just wanted “outercourse,” attorney Eric S. Multhaup told the court in a brief and in oral arguments.

The distinction is central to Multhaup’s argument that Turner should not have been convicted of assault with intent to commit rape because, he claims, Turner’s clothes were on when two bicyclists saw him thrusting on top of the half-naked, unconscious woman. He argued that Turner was engaged only in “outercourse,” a “version of safe sex” with no “penile contact,” Multhaup explained, the Palo Alto Weekly reported.

The long-shot legal argument had three California 6th District Court of Appeal justices scratching their heads, according to multiple accounts of the hearing.

“I absolutely don’t understand what you are talking about,” Justice Franklin D. Elia told Multhaup, the San Jose Mercury News reported.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/07/26/brock-turners-sexual-assault-appeal-he-intended-outercourse-not-intercourse/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ccee12533494

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Reply Brock Turner's sexual assault appeal: He intended 'outercourse,' not intercourse (Original post)
Calista241 Jul 26 OP
cstanleytech Jul 26 #1
forgotmylogin Jul 26 #11
lark Jul 26 #2
ADX Jul 26 #3
christx30 Jul 26 #18
ADX Jul 26 #19
hlthe2b Jul 26 #4
NewJeffCT Jul 26 #5
louis-t Jul 26 #6
Pacifist Patriot Jul 26 #7
Aristus Jul 26 #8
TexasBushwhacker Jul 26 #17
Initech Jul 26 #9
keithbvadu2 Jul 26 #10
Floyd R. Turbo Jul 26 #12
packman Jul 26 #13
iluvtennis Jul 26 #14
mwooldri Jul 26 #15
TexasBushwhacker Jul 26 #16
B Stieg Jul 26 #20
jb5150 Jul 26 #21
jmowreader Jul 26 #22
3catwoman3 Jul 26 #23
madinmaryland Jul 26 #24

Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:04 AM

1. "outercourse" Multhaup deserves to be laughed out of the courthouse for that BS.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:03 AM

11. Oh yeah, OUTERCOURSE is fine. (heavy eye roll)

By definition that would make the doctor molesting the wrestlers innocent as well. Hey, safe sex is not rape!



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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:05 AM

2. Just say no to this craziness.

Hell no would also do.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:08 AM

3. "Would"/"Wouldn't", "Outercourse"/"Intercourse"...

...this is the quagmire of bullshit we've now been reduced to thanks to the orange buffoon.

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Response to ADX (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:39 PM

18. This has been going on way before Trump.

It just all depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is. Know what I mean?

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Response to christx30 (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM

19. Yeah, Bill had his moments...

...and I eye-rolled on the "is" comment as well as the "didn't inhale" one but Chump has taken shit to a whole 'nother level of absurdity.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:11 AM

4. they should send him back to jail for presenting THAT defense on appeal alone...

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:31 AM

5. hey moron

it's still sexual and it's still an assault.

(moron comment addressed to Brock Turner, not the OP)

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:38 AM

6. "Panel of skeptical appeals judges"

I can just see the looks on their faces. One eyebrow raised.. ..

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Response to louis-t (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:43 AM

7. and jaws dropped

Unreal!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:50 AM

8. "And if that doesn't convince you to offer clemency, Your Honors,

I'm a very good swimmer. I hope you'll keep that in mind during your deliberations."

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Response to Aristus (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:21 PM

17. He was planning on going to med school

Now there won't be a school in the US that will take him and even if he went to school in another country, he will never be able to practice in the US.

Too bad Brock. Go work on Wall Street. You'll fit right in.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:53 AM

9. Still doesn't make it any better!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:55 AM

10. Gotta give 'em credit for imagination

Gotta give 'em credit for imagination

(the lawyers)

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:07 AM

12. Right there with "affluenza"!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:07 AM

13. Now I realize what that dog was doing to my leg

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:36 AM

14. 'Outcourse' - yeah right. Just like that 'Affluenza' defense from few years ago. I call BS.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:50 AM

15. Outercourse? I read that as "titty f*ck".

It's still "sex".

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:17 PM

16. She's half naked and unconscious

He wasn't convicted of rape. He was convicted of assault with intent to rape. Assuming she didn't take her own clothes off while unconscious, it seems to me he was convicted of the appropriate crime. While not technically "rape" at the time in California, he digitally penetrated her while she was extremely intoxicated, thus unable to give consent. That's still sexual assault and would still put him on the sex offender registry.

But you know what? Give him a new trial. This time he will get convicted again and the judge won't just give him 6 months in jail.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:10 PM

20. The "Frottage Defense"?

Still an act of sexual assault!
This guy has to be kidding.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:32 PM

21. If he wasn't intending to have intercourse,

why did he lift her dress and remove her underwear? I guess I can't blame the lawyer for trying to defend his client, but that scumbag was definitely guilty, and got off pretty damn light for what he did.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:53 PM

22. Oh-Kay!

The idiot was convicted of sexual assault on an unconscious woman, and his defense is he only did “safe sex.”

Some people’s children really need some quality time washing prison dishes.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:31 PM

23. Oh, please.

This is pathetic and disgusting.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:37 PM

24. Whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, it is still a sexual assault. Just as

"grab them by the pussy" is sexual assault.

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