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Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:59 AM

EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

Source: The Architect's Newspaper

One of the most dangerous construction-related carcinogens is now legally allowed back into U.S. manufacturing under a new rule by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). On June 1, the EPA authorized a “SNUR” (Significant New Use Rule) which allows new products containing asbestos to be created on a case-by-case basis.

According to environmental advocates, this new rule gives chemical companies the upper hand in creating new uses for such harmful products in the United States. In May, the EPA released a report detailing its new framework for evaluating the risk of its top prioritized substances. The report states that the agency will no longer consider the effect or presence of substances in the air, ground, or water in its risk assessments.

This news comes after the EPA reviewed its first batch of 10 chemicals under the 2016 amendment to the 1976 Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), which required the agency to continually reevaluate hundreds of potentially toxic chemicals to see whether they should face new restrictions or be removed from the market. The SNUR greenlights companies to use toxic chemicals like asbestos without thinking about how it will endanger people who are indirectly in contact with it.

Asbestos, once seen as a magical mineral, was widely used in building insulation up until it was banned in most countries in the 1970s. The U.S. is one of the only developed nations in the world that has placed significant restrictions on the substance without banning it completely. New data revealed that asbestos-related deaths now total nearly 40,000 annually, with lung cancer and mesothelioma being the most common illnesses in association with the toxin. That number could rise if new asbestos-containing products make their way into brand new buildings.


Read more: https://archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/

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Reply EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing (Original post)
Seedersandleechers Aug 2018 OP
bdtrppr6 Aug 2018 #1
whopis01 Aug 2018 #9
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2018 #28
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #2
annabanana Aug 2018 #8
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #20
Farmer-Rick Aug 2018 #19
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #26
Farmer-Rick Aug 2018 #32
Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #22
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #25
Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #27
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #30
Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #31
Mosby Aug 2018 #34
byronius Aug 2018 #3
rusty quoin Aug 2018 #4
Duppers Aug 2018 #5
Midnight Writer Aug 2018 #6
TomSlick Aug 2018 #21
tammywammy Aug 2018 #33
duforsure Aug 2018 #7
pazzyanne Aug 2018 #10
Vinca Aug 2018 #11
trusty elf Aug 2018 #12
truthisfreedom Aug 2018 #23
JDC Aug 2018 #13
logosoco Aug 2018 #14
sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 #15
pecosbob Aug 2018 #16
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2018 #17
populistdriven Aug 2018 #18
truthisfreedom Aug 2018 #24
sakabatou Aug 2018 #29
maxsolomon Aug 2018 #35
workinclasszero Aug 2018 #36


Response to bdtrppr6 (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:38 AM

9. Are you kidding me? Russian asbestos company

putting his picture on their product?

At least things are becoming more transparent.

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Response to whopis01 (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 03:59 AM

28. #Make Russia Great Again



Maybe we can get his face silk screened on urinals?

When I practiced law we had quite a number of asbestos-related cases. Most of the men (and they were all men) had been workers at the local Navy facility, knocking asbestos from inside ship boilers without respirators. They were really hard to win -- the asbestos companies had a lot of lawyers and almost unlimited funds to draw on, and plaintiff law firms in Charleston, SC, tended to be small in comparison. The companies almost always won at trial -- they had a huge stable of experts to draw on, and their tactic was to use the victim's body against them ("Did you smoke, Mr. Smith?" ) enough to confuse the jurors, or at least one, which is all it would take. We were able to settle nearly all our cases, but it would never be enough no matter the amount. Most of these guys had so much asbestos in their lungs that each breath was a struggle. It was a horrible way to live -- or die.

Fuck Comrade Trump.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:26 AM

2. Next, the Dept. of Labor will advocate slavery.

The US and other countries have spent billions of dollars removing massive amounts of asbestos from residential, commercial and industrial facilities and that was based on sound science.

These people in this administration are 100% dedicated to advancing corporate profits and 100% laissez-faire with regards to workplace safety, the environment, health, human rights and equality. They could care less about inconveniences such as asbestosis or black lung disease.

Someone please put the time machine back into forward mode.......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:15 AM

8. This maladministration is Mob based.

Once that's understood, everything else suddenly makes perfect sense.

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Response to annabanana (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 07:26 PM

20. One slight difference I thought of....

Traditional mobsters know if they betray the boss, they'll wind up in the river or under concrete.

However, almost invariably any stray cat Republican just gets a cushy lobbying job or at least weekly interviews on TV. Sort of win/win in a way. Never ceases to amaze me how it's so rare for a politician to be held accountable for their actions in office (lies, starting wars, etc.), while everyday Joe on the street gets lost in the justice system for years for stealing milk for his kids.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:58 PM

19. Only if Russia can be the slave traders.

Notice that Russia seems to gain with every crushing blow to the American people.

Traitor Trump turning America into Russia's bitch.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 03:40 AM

26. Rick, I feel in a sense, we're already there.

In may ways, we're all slaves to the international oligarchs from almost every product and service we buy. Labor slaves were beaten with leather whips and we're beaten with the economic whip of debt.

Not to mention that almost all our politicians are indebted to them as well.......

How dare us try to put chains of regulation on our masters??.....

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #26)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 06:40 AM

32. Good point KY

The term slave wages comes to mind.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:45 AM

22. I believe that it was also removed from my local high school

I only went to that school for three years, but two teachers I liked a lot (English and Math) died too young.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 03:26 AM

25. People were careless with it for decades but the danger was covered over....

just like tobacco and carbon tetrachloride (used in dry cleaning and electronics). Most people had some in their home in stove, electric heater and toaster insulation! I personally cut up 1" think solid sheets of it with a bandsaw in college in the 60s to build a solder pot.

The most common use in public and industrial buildings was pipe insulation and acoustic ceiling tiles. If your school had a steam boiler (I remember the radiators), the steam piping and the boiler likely had asbestos insulation. If workers had to repair a valve or pipe, they just ripped it off like they would fiberglass without concern for the dust.

During the 80s and 90s on my field service jobs, I watch asbestos being removed throughout industry, particularly in power plants, paper mills and refineries. It was something to see with all the protective gear they had to wear and I think the material removed was put in special hazardous material landfills.

Asbestos was also used in automotive brake linings up into the 90s, but no longer. So, the darn stuff was all around us and most of it we didn't know about and were not warned of the danger. Sort of like as kids they told us "smoking is not good for you" but we just wanted to be like Marlboro man.

.............

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 03:42 AM

27. Thanks for the detailed explanation!

Good grief! What was supposed to be "progress" or efficiency turned out to be lethal. Right now they're digging a canyon right in front of that school. There are now four schools, this was the second one built - but the population has grown. There are a lot of pipes and such exposed and it's taking quite awhile. I don't remember them digging that area up before, it was always a parking lot.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:37 AM

30. Sorry 'bout the rant, Rhiannon, but...

just get frustrated sometimes with how we humans stay in denial of obvious truths for the sake of a buck and modern conveniences. Guess I'm old-fashioned that way, LOL.

One thing that worries me now is this pattern of regulate/deregulate as we shift political cycles. Industry cannot deal with uncertainty and it is extremely inefficient to allow a material to be used for a while, and then ban it again. This is just outright dumb and will cost us in the long run.

And, there I go ranting again.......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #30)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:48 AM

31. I don't think enough of us are ranting, especially now

It boggles the mind to try to comprehend what's actually happening in this country - the rolling back of safety standards and environmental protections. It took a lot of research, wake up calls and hard work to get us as far as we've gotten and there still is a long way to go. After all that, learning we're now moving backwards on so many fronts that it's hard to keep track - I can't understand why it's allowed to happen. These are scary times.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:07 AM

34. There used to be asbestos in hair dryers

It was a tube of material surrounding the heating coils that prevented the heat from damaging the plastic housing.

There are estimates that there were 10 million of these dryers in circulation in the 70s and 80s.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:45 AM

3. Perhaps they will classify it as a school lunch vegetable next.

Whatever Vlad says these days, I suppose.

He'd better kill us all.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:11 AM

4. Cheney/ Halliburton had something going on with it.

 

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:12 AM

5. Holy crap!! Incredible.

All these sick fuckers want to do is line their pockets.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:19 AM

6. Wouldn't the fear of lawsuits still prevent companies from using asbestos?

Even if the Trump Administration OKs it, the nest Administration may not. After all, asbestos was legal before, but the companies were still sued, sometimes many years later.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:02 PM

21. Sure.

I can't imagine anyone selling or using asbestos.

The lawsuits would - justifiably - finish anyone peddling asbestos.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:14 AM

33. Lawsuits are still ongoing

I had an uncle that died from mesothelioma a few years ago. The family is still getting settlement checks. Mesothelioma shows up decades after exposure to asbestos.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:44 AM

7. This is what happens

When an illegitimate installed puppet of putin is in charge of this country.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:50 AM

10. And the deconstuction of our safety protections just keeps happening.

tRump is a real

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:16 AM

11. Any company that puts asbestos in their product is begging for a lawsuit.

It would be business suicide. This is stupid even for Dolt 45.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:30 AM

12. .....

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Response to trusty elf (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 01:56 AM

23. Asbestos we can

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:43 AM

13. Next up, lead in paint and gas

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:58 AM

14. What's next? Leaded gas and DDT?

Anyone who puts profits ahead of the health of people and the health of the planet should NEVER be allowed to hold an office with power.

And for the EPA to say that they are not going to consider the effect of anything on the air, land and water when doing an assessment...that is plain insanity.

I guess their real dream is to eliminate the EPA altogether. They don't understand how air and water work for living things, they only understand $$$$$$$$ (and only if it for THEM and their pals!)

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:47 AM

15. WTF? One of the proven most deadly substances is back to kill

living things? This is making America lethal again.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:03 PM

16. And I'll give you 10 to 1 odds

the manufacturers don't have to disclose the asbestos content. A new version of the ag-gag laws will be next.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:41 PM

17. I hope everyone in the Trump administration gets mesothelioma

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:57 PM

18. EPA no longer considers effect of substances in the air, ground, or water in its risk assessments?

that can't be correct

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Response to populistdriven (Reply #18)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 01:58 AM

24. Environmental Pollution Agency

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:00 AM

29. WTF?!

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 11:42 AM

35. Most of the danger was in the mining of it,

the manufacturing of materials containing it, and in the installation of those materials. Asbestos doesn't jump on you like a spider as long as it isn't disturbed.

You are currently allowed to leave ACMs in place through "encapsulation". I did it just this year in a project - put carpet and vinyl flooring over the top of 50 year old linoleum tiles that are glued to concrete with mastic that has Asbestos in it. Perfectly legal.

But anywhere you disturb it, you have to mitigate it carefully. Did that, too.

It might be possible to use it IN CERTAIN APPLICATIONS again. For instance, some equipment that gets shot into space. Just not where it would be ground into dust and inhaled - like brake pads. Or spray-on ceiling textures.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 06:33 PM

36. This is a crime against humanity!

 

The effects of inhaling asbestos fibers are well known.

This is an evil act folks. Like the kidnapping of innocent children and separating and caging them.

How much more evil will the pig in the White House get away with? People will DIE horrible deaths over this years from now!

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