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Fri Aug 10, 2018, 01:46 AM

Billionaire Drops Quest To Split California Into 3 Parts

Source: Associated Press

2 hrs. ago by Kathleen Ronayne, AP.

SACRAMENTO, Calif. The billionaire behind a measure to split California in three said he's giving up on the effort to reimagine the nation's most populous state after the state Supreme Court knocked it off the November ballot.

"The political environment for radical change is right now," venture capitalist Tim Draper wrote in a letter to the court dated Aug. 2 and made public by his opponents Thursday. "The removal of Proposition 9 from the November ballot has effectively put an end to this movement."

The court struck Draper's measure in July in response to a lawsuit but didn't rule on the merits of the case, allowing Draper the opportunity to fight to put it on future ballots. He's not moving forward with the case.

Draper spent more than $1.7 million to qualify his initiative for the ballot, which requires gathering hundreds of thousands of signatures.

It's not his first effort to break up California his plan to split the state into six didn't qualify for past ballots. He's argued California has become ungovernable due to its size and diversity, politically and geographically...More...


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/billionaire-drops-quest-to-split-california-into-3-parts/ar-BBLJdED?li=BBnb7Kz



The latest plan would have divided California into 3 pieces: one would comprise the Bay Area, Silicon Valley, Sacramento and the rest of Northern California; the second would be a strip of land from Los Angeles to Monterey; and the third would include San Diego, the Central Valley and Orange County.

The Planning and Conservation League sued to keep Draper's initiative off the ballot, arguing that such a massive change to the state's governance couldn't be done through a ballot initiative. "At the end of the day, this was a billionaire's massive and illegal use of the initiative process, and the court was correct in stopping this folly," Carlyle Hall, an attorney who worked on the suit with the environmental group.

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Reply Billionaire Drops Quest To Split California Into 3 Parts (Original post)
appalachiablue Aug 10 OP
dweller Aug 10 #1
appalachiablue Aug 10 #2
airplaneman Aug 10 #3
appalachiablue Aug 10 #5
DownriverDem Aug 10 #13
ROB-ROX Aug 10 #18
JonLP24 Aug 10 #20
BigmanPigman Aug 10 #4
appalachiablue Aug 10 #6
cstanleytech Aug 10 #7
Merlot Aug 10 #14
SunSeeker Aug 10 #8
bucolic_frolic Aug 10 #9
7962 Aug 10 #10
PufPuf23 Aug 10 #16
7962 Aug 10 #19
turbinetree Aug 10 #11
Liberalagogo Aug 10 #12
TeamPooka Aug 10 #15
maxsolomon Aug 10 #17

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 01:56 AM

1. cha-Ching !

that 1.7 mil could have been spent alleviating poverty, or feeding homeless, or providing shelters with supplies... and gaining friends along the way ...

instead you come off as an asshole with too much $$, and a loser

sorry, not sorry

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Response to dweller (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 02:00 AM

2. You cover it, waste and shame. $1.7 Mill, how that could have helped!!

Where's his head? Never mind..

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 02:03 AM

3. As a Californian

This was a clear effort to split CA into two red states and one blue state - gaining four more republican senators. There was absolutely no plan beyond attempting to strengthen republican control over our government. The $1.7 million screamed I don't give a shit about people - Just let me rake in more $ for myself.
-Airplane

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Response to airplaneman (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 02:18 AM

5. After hearing so much talk months ago, I was relieved to learn

that the main plan was just another scheme by the GOP for more power as you say.

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Response to airplaneman (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 08:34 AM

13. So Glad

it won't happen. repubs are the most disgusting group of people I know. It's clear they will do anything to get a win. Vote vote vote!

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Response to airplaneman (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 08:31 PM

18. RE-THUGS TRY TO GET MORE RED STATES

The split follows state areas which have a majority of RED voting people. It will take years for us BLUE voting people moving to these areas to CHANGE the representation to BLUE. The GERRYMANDER method was noted by making L.A. & S.F. different states, but S.D. and central valley would be RED & are RED today. S.D. has major navy base and central valley has NAVAIR & Air Force bases. I wonder if this guy was funded by RUSSIA???

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Response to airplaneman (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 10:27 PM

20. Exactly

It was just like a Gerry mander but for a state.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 02:06 AM

4. I hope he doesn't come back again with another

idiotic plan for the success of of his self serving agenda. We have bigger things to be concerned with around the state. I may have heard something about FIRES and CLIMATE CHANGE which are our state's priorities right now buddy.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 02:19 AM

6. My thoughts exactly! Deal with the climate emergency now!

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 02:20 AM

7. Doesnt the idiot realize that splitting the state like that would have left northern California

in a tight spot economically? After all it would not have the large ports which see alot of trade and also provide alot of jobs thus a greatly reduced tax base for the north.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 10:39 AM

14. His goals had nothing to do with the welfare of the state or it's people

He cared about repub control.

California is the 5th largerst economy in the world - and it's bright blue. California is where a lot of progressive legislation gets it start.

Makes repubs see red.

A fool and his money...

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 03:01 AM

8. Go fuck yourself, Draper, stop trying to fuck CA. nt

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:16 AM

9. It was an attempted corporate takeover coup d'etat and naked land grab

This guy should be put in a cage

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:33 AM

10. Dont forget the "secede and add a Native American country" movement.

They want the coast to be its own country and give Native Americans from Mexico north as a buffer between ca and the US

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Response to 7962 (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:32 PM

16. The CalExit folks ("Yes California) want California to be a separate country

and are against splitting California into 3 states.

https://us16.campaign-archive.com/?u=e6492539efbfe94324eb4874b&id=ddf3787e45

But the Yes California folks also want to transfer all California federal lands to form an Autonomous Native Nation with a seat at the UN. See map at link.

https://mailchi.mp/yescalifornia/let-us-introduce-the-first-ever-autonomous-native-american-nation-in-north-America


"Greenland is an autonomous Danish dependent territory with self-government and its own parliament. Denmark contributes two thirds of Greenland's budget revenue, the rest coming mainly from fishing.

But what does Greenland and Denmark have anything to do with Calexit?

"Today we are announcing the expansion of the Calexit plan to be even bigger and more ambitious than ever before," Louis J. Marinelli, a Calexit co-founder explained. "The new Calexit plan I am pleased to present today will not only bring about the first successful, peaceful, and legal secession of an American state from the United States but starting today the new Calexit plan now includes the establishment of the first-ever autonomous Native American nation in North America."

The plan is to retrocede virtually all federally-owned properties in California back to its original occupants, the California Native Americans, the organization said, adding that the federal government currently owns about 47 percent of the land in California.

"This new Calexit plan reaches higher and farther than any previous attempt in history to right the wrongs the American government has committed throughout its history against the Native Americans," Marinelli said."

Who is Yes California and how is it funded?


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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:25 PM

19. No idea who funds them. Good links too. nt

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:57 AM

11. Timothy C. Draper.................is really a jerk, with money

https://ballotpedia.org/Timothy_C._Draper


https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_38,_School_Vouchers_(2000)

You wanted "state money to pay for school vouchers for religious schools................


https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_32,_the_%22Paycheck_Protection%22_Initiative_(2012)

SO billionaires could fund candidates...........got it.................


Go away..................

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 08:33 AM

12. Putin must've given him new orders

n/t

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 PM

15. Fuck you Tim Draper. Leave our state alone.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:17 PM

17. I could draw it to be 2 Dem States and 1 Blood Red Repuke

Would he like it then?

The State of Jefferson, from Sac north to OR.

On edit: probably. Certainly the Yahoos up in Yreka would...

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