U.S. will prosecute makers of 'undetectable' plastic guns: Sessions
Source: Reuters
AUGUST 16, 2018 / 1:23 PM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO
Reuters Staff
1 MIN READ
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions warned on Thursday that anyone who uses a 3-D printer to make an undetectable gun will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, a day after his department asked a court not to block the public from downloading blueprints for the guns.
We will not stand for the evasion ... of current law and will take action to ensure that individuals who violate the law by making plastic firearms and rendering them undetectable, will be prosecuted to the fullest extent, Sessions said in his Thursday statement.
Reporting by Lisa Lambert
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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-guns-sessions/u-s-will-prosecute-makers-of-undetectable-plastic-guns-sessions-idUSKBN1L1248
PSPS
(13,588 posts)More killings = FEAR -- a staple in every KGOP campaign.
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,524 posts)making guns. They want people buying guns.
Same deal with pharmaceutical companies and cannabis.
BigmanPigman
(51,583 posts)3-D guns are OK to print but not to be used as a weapon? I don't get it.
NickB79
(19,233 posts)So all the blueprints online include instructions to incorporate a metal screw into them to keep them legal.
Theoretically they're perfectly legal as long as you stick to the blueprints, but that's assuming all builders are honest and law-abiding.
BigmanPigman
(51,583 posts)regulations and restrictions all the time. I want to scream I am so pissed off.
DBoon
(22,354 posts)Alter it just slightly so it isn't (yet) illegal, but still has the mind-altering effects of the original (sometimes along with some deadly side effects)
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)A plastic screw.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Download and distribute them. You cannot use them to 3D print a gun.
Just like there are files and books on the internet that tell you how to make metal guns and various types of bombs.
There are files that tell you how you make moonshine. It is illegsl to make it.
The files are not illegal, making illegal things are.
BigmanPigman
(51,583 posts)Do they tell you about this in the manual?
sl8
(13,720 posts)With regards to your statement, "You cannot use them to 3D print a gun. "
According to the ATF:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license-make-firearm-personal-use
Does an individual need a license to make a firearm for personal use?
No, a license is not required to make a firearm solely for personal use. However, a license is required to manufacture firearms for sale or distribution. The law prohibits a person from assembling a nonsporting semiautomatic rifle or shotgun from 10 or more imported parts, as well as firearms that cannot be detected by metal detectors or xray machines. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and advance approval by ATF.
[18 U.S.C. 922(o), (p) and (r); 26 U.S.C. 5822; 27 CFR 478.39, 479.62 and 479.105]
Last Reviewed November 6, 2017
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The ATF doesn't qualify their statement about manufacturing a firearm for personal use according to what tools you use.
I think, but am not sure, that manufacture for personal use needs to comply with the "Undetectable Firearms Act ...".
Nitram
(22,781 posts)I believe you could always claim that your firearm is for hunting, varmint shooting, or target shooting.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,336 posts)Objection, your honor, his hand is empty. I detect nothing. I move for dismissal.
I think the term "undetectable" needs some work.
The term "blueprint" is probably also out-dated.
I'm sure Jeff Sessions is aching for this court fight. Anything to distract Trump from haranguing him constantly.
sl8
(13,720 posts)I think that your post is at least partially tongue in cheek, but "undetectable", especially when in quotes, isn't intended literally. It almost certainly refers to the nomenclature of the "Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988" or subsequent renewals.
The language of the actual US Code (18 U.S.C. § 922(p)) uses much more specific and technical language:
http://trac.syr.edu/laws/18/18USC00922.html
(p)(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to manufacture,
import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive any
firearm -
(A) that, after removal of grips, stocks, and magazines, is not
as detectable as the Security Exemplar, by walk-through metal
detectors calibrated and operated to detect the Security
Exemplar; or
(B) any major component of which, when subjected to inspection
by the types of x-ray machines commonly used at airports, does
not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the
component. Barium sulfate or other compounds may be used in the
fabrication of the component.
(2) For purposes of this subsection -
(A) the term "firearm" does not include the frame or receiver
of any such weapon;
(B) the term "major component" means, with respect to a
firearm, the barrel, the slide or cylinder, or the frame or
receiver of the firearm; and
(C) the term "Security Exemplar" means an object, to be
fabricated at the direction of the Attorney General, that is -
(i) constructed of, during the 12-month period beginning on
the date of the enactment of this subsection, 3.7 ounces of
material type 17-4 PH stainless steel in a shape resembling a
handgun; and
(ii) suitable for testing and calibrating metal detectors:
Provided, however, That at the close of such 12-month period, and
at appropriate times thereafter the Attorney General shall
promulgate regulations to permit the manufacture, importation,
sale, shipment, delivery, possession, transfer, or receipt of
firearms previously prohibited under this subparagraph that are
as detectable as a "Security Exemplar" which contains 3.7 ounces
of material type 17-4 PH stainless steel, in a shape resembling a
handgun, or such lesser amount as is detectable in view of
advances in state-of-the-art developments in weapons detection
technology.
(3) Under such rules and regulations as the Attorney General
shall prescribe, this subsection shall not apply to the
manufacture, possession, transfer, receipt, shipment, or delivery
of a firearm by a licensed manufacturer or any person acting
pursuant to a contract with a licensed manufacturer, for the
purpose of examining and testing such firearm to determine whether
paragraph (1) applies to such firearm. The Attorney General shall
ensure that rules and regulations adopted pursuant to this
paragraph do not impair the manufacture of prototype firearms or
the development of new technology.
(4) The Attorney General shall permit the conditional importation
of a firearm by a licensed importer or licensed manufacturer, for
examination and testing to determine whether or not the
unconditional importation of such firearm would violate this
subsection.
(5) This subsection shall not apply to any firearm which -
(A) has been certified by the Secretary of Defense or the
Director of Central Intelligence, after consultation with the
Attorney General and the Administrator of the Federal Aviation
Administration, as necessary for military or intelligence
applications; and
(B) is manufactured for and sold exclusively to military or
intelligence agencies of the United States.
(6) This subsection shall not apply with respect to any firearm
manufactured in, imported into, or possessed in the United States
before the date of the enactment of the Undetectable Firearms Act
of 1988.
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keithbvadu2
(36,745 posts)So gun control is ok.
The Second Amendment does not specify (non) detectable.
ancianita
(36,017 posts)MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)grows a little spine?
Or maybe he sees the writing on the wall and is doing the equivalent of a death-bed conversion.
Maxheader
(4,371 posts)That you can hold and smell but can't lick.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,546 posts)Snellius
(6,881 posts)Think of the possibilities: invisible fences, invisible houses, invisible clothes. And they could come in any color.
Chakaconcarne
(2,439 posts)at Trump rallies.
Snellius
(6,881 posts)Skips the middle man and you can get whatever you want. Worked with Bitcoin. Brilliant.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)Jeffie has really gone the full Ponzi
This is a test for many many cons brought by the Trump administration
"The Wall" "paid for by Mexico" will keep Mexicans out and make us safe
There is no collusion, it is undetectable
Hillary's emails
They are in the game of FRAUD on everything
We are being duped every hour, twice an hour
LuvNewcastle
(16,843 posts)More guns means less crime. Why can't I prevent crime with a plastic gun?