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Botany

(70,449 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:08 AM Aug 2018

Rand Paul wants Trump to lift US travel sanctions on some Russian lawmakers

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Republican Sen. Rand Paul said Thursday that he plans to ask President Donald Trump to lift sanctions on members of the Russian legislature so that they are able to travel to the United States.

The Kentucky senator, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, invited the Russian lawmakers to the US capital during a trip to Moscow in early August. He told Fox News on Thursday that members of both houses of the Russian Federal Assembly have "agreed to come to Washington in the fall for further meetings."

"That's a good thing," Paul said. "The downside is the chairman of each of the committees is banned from coming to the United States because of sanctions. So one of the things I'm going to ask the President -- I'm going to talk to the President this weekend -- is I'm going to say, 'why don't we take people off the list who are in the legislature.'"

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Paul was among the most vocal Republican lawmakers to support the US President after Trump's news conference in Helsinki, Finland, with Putin. Trump was widely criticized by members of his own party for appearing to side with Putin over the US intelligence community's assessment that Russia interfered in the US presidential elections. Trump later said he misspoke, but Paul accused the President's critics of "Trump derangement syndrome."

"Any country that can spy does, and any country that can meddle in foreign elections does," Paul said on CNN's "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer" last month. Paul continued, "All countries are doing this, but we've elevated this to a higher degree, and we've made this all about the sour grapes of Hillary Clinton losing the election, and it's all about partisan politics now. This is truly the Trump derangement syndrome that motivates all of this."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/politics/rand-paul-russian-lawmakers-sanctions/



"Any country that can spy does, and any country that can meddle in foreign elections does," Paul said on CNN's

I wonder what Putin/Russia have on Paul? Rand is one more republican treason weasel.
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Rand Paul wants Trump to lift US travel sanctions on some Russian lawmakers (Original Post) Botany Aug 2018 OP
Rand Paul works for Vladimir Putin. dalton99a Aug 2018 #1
+1,000,000 dchill Aug 2018 #33
Random Paul is busy negotiating the Senate/Duma merger. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #2
Russian intelligence must have something very juicy on Rand Paul DBoon Aug 2018 #3
We might find out the real reason his neighbor kicked his ass. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #17
+1 mitch96 Aug 2018 #21
Does he or his father take Russian money for anything? dem4decades Aug 2018 #4
He is afraid they'll pay any legal costs for his neighbor to kick his ass again if he doesn't help. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #5
What does Russia have on Rand Paul? ananda Aug 2018 #6
I think Rand Paul has to be a super freak Botany Aug 2018 #9
Here is the craziest part: ScratchCat Aug 2018 #7
The neighbor probably didn't like Cosacks dancing on his lawn Bayard Aug 2018 #20
😂 Duppers Aug 2018 #29
Ohhhh..... Bayard Aug 2018 #30
We need to check to see if he is blinking out... Dave Starsky Aug 2018 #26
Republicans are doing everything they can to make sure The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #8
They couldnt possibly do that with a veto in the WH. Have to control everything to do that. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #11
Rand Paul PatSeg Aug 2018 #10
IDK, I think we may be giving Putin too much credit. The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #13
I just find it bizarre PatSeg Aug 2018 #23
Lion, it wouldn't take much "dirt" to get control of Hortensis Aug 2018 #34
Birchers 4 Putin. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #12
Such a putin supporter now duforsure Aug 2018 #14
legislators, and how many "staffers"? mopinko Aug 2018 #15
RubleCon Party member. Wants to be in the Politburo. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #16
Rand "the commie" Paul elmac Aug 2018 #18
Putin's pal Racerdog1 Aug 2018 #19
My 1st thought as well. /nt sdfernando Aug 2018 #22
Rand Paul is NOT the president... lame54 Aug 2018 #24
Of Course He Did ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #25
Any traitor that can trade favors with enemies BBG Aug 2018 #27
Makes sense. Turbineguy Aug 2018 #28
I don't think that's the way it works. janx Aug 2018 #31
Remember the old days when the GOP was pro America and anti Russia?? Vinca Aug 2018 #32

dalton99a

(81,406 posts)
1. Rand Paul works for Vladimir Putin.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:10 AM
Aug 2018
https://freebeacon.com/politics/rand-pauls-russian-connection/

Rand Paul’s Russian Connection
Paul names controversial Kremlin expert foreign policy adviser
BY: Alana Goodman Follow @alanagoodman
August 20, 2014 9:59 am


Dimitri K. Simes (born Dmitry Kostantinovich Simis, Russian: Дмитрий Константинович Симис )

Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) has named as one of his key foreign policy advisers a controversial Russia policy expert with deep ties to the Kremlin.

Dimitri Simes, the president of the Center for the National Interest, and Ambassador Richard Burt, a member of the Center’s board of directors, are recent additions to Paul’s foreign policy advisory team, the senator told National Journal earlier this year.

For years, Simes and the center have provided a sympathetic platform for the Russian government in the heart of the D.C. policy establishment. Its ties to Moscow extend throughout the organization.

The advisory council of the National Interest, the center’s chief publication, includes Alexey Pushkov, a Russian Duma official recently targeted for sanctions by the U.S. government in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Pushkov has come under fire for claiming that the Bush administration orchestrated the September 11 attacks and for blaming the 2013 Navy Yard shooting on "American exceptionalism."

A former aide to Richard Nixon, Simes is publisher of the National Interest, a hotbed of "realist" foreign policy thinking that boasts Henry Kissinger as its honorary chairman.

Simes’ views and connections are widely known in Russia policy circles. Last September, days after Vladimir Putin published a column in the New York Times denouncing American exceptionalism, Simes joined the Russian president on stage at the Valdai International Discussion Club forum in Russia for a televised panel discussion.

Flanked by three other panelists—Germany’s former defense minister and France and Italy’s former prime ministers—Simes seemed out of place at the high-ranking, Kremlin-sponsored forum.

"No one directly addresses Putin at Dimitri Simes’ level," noted one Washington-based Russia policy expert. "It just doesn’t happen."

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tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
5. He is afraid they'll pay any legal costs for his neighbor to kick his ass again if he doesn't help.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:11 AM
Aug 2018

Botany

(70,449 posts)
9. I think Rand Paul has to be a super freak
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:26 AM
Aug 2018

Maybe something to do w/tooth paste, nipple clamps, his own
girl scout outfit, a S & M "boss lady," and the song, "you light up
my life."

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
7. Here is the craziest part:
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:16 AM
Aug 2018

Rand Paul is undoubtedly smart enough to know his new found affinity for Russia doesn't look right and that he is almost assuredly being watched by the intelligence community. It is almost like he is screaming "Russians are blackmailing me" without actually saying it.

And again - the bizarre altercation with his neighbor has to somehow be tied to all this.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
29. 😂
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 04:00 PM
Aug 2018

Great gif!

Idea- we should hire some costumed Cossack dancers for the front of the WH.

Oh, and whenever Paul gives a speech, someone should loudly be translating it to Russian. That'd get his ire up.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
26. We need to check to see if he is blinking out...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:08 PM
Aug 2018

B-L-A-C-K-M-A-I-L next time he gives a Pro-Russia speech.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
8. Republicans are doing everything they can to make sure
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:21 AM
Aug 2018

Democrats are too busy conducting treason hearings instead of enacting bold and comprehensive social safety net legislation when they win back the House and Senate.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
11. They couldnt possibly do that with a veto in the WH. Have to control everything to do that.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:26 AM
Aug 2018

Oh, and to the topic, Rand Paul is a traitor or is being blackmailed and trying to tell us.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
10. Rand Paul
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:26 AM
Aug 2018

has always been a rather peculiar libertarian with some very odd tendencies, but he did seem to be sincere in his unconventional beliefs. His behavior lately seems to indicates that Putin really has something on the guy. Putin is treating a lot of members of congress like trained dogs, getting them to do and say things in public that make them look like total fools. It has to be more than money.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
13. IDK, I think we may be giving Putin too much credit.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:31 AM
Aug 2018

What do I mean? I don't think Putin has as much dirt as we are giving him credit for. And besides, look how much of pieces of filth these republicans are from knowledge we already have. What more can embarrass them that their idiot supporters wouldn't forgive. Nope, I think these republicans are just natural born bootlickers and are voluntarily turning America into a client state in hopes of being truly in (authoritarian) charge once the transfer of sovereignty is complete.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
23. I just find it bizarre
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 01:58 PM
Aug 2018

how open and obvious they have become. At least they used to be able to pretend to be patriotic Americans. Now that seems to be out of fashion.

Its possible we are giving Putin too much credit, though I'm sure he is loving every minute of it. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot surprises down the road.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Lion, it wouldn't take much "dirt" to get control of
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 03:34 PM
Aug 2018

most public figures. A little run-of-the-mill graft, a little extramarital sex. Some would have the character to refuse and leave politics and face severe social economic consequences, even time in prison, but how many?

Just cooperating a bit to avoid embarrassment to begin would compromise and launch them down the slippery slope to treason. Russian counterintelligence has been doing this for decades.

You may not remember at the moment, but Rand's dad Ron has been behaving this exact same way for decades, surprisingly inappropriately arguing for Russian interests over American. It would not have once seemed likely, much less probable, that Russia made Ron an offer he couldn't refuse a long time ago, but it does now.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. Such a putin supporter now
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:37 AM
Aug 2018

Makes you wonder what really , really bad stuff Rand Paul is involved in that putin has uncovered on him to make his position switch so dramatically , also like Graham and other Banana Republicans in Congress now. They're making themselves look worse when everything comes out on them and they're all exposed for what they've done. It will all come out on them too.

mopinko

(70,024 posts)
15. legislators, and how many "staffers"?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:44 AM
Aug 2018

not just the legislators themselves, but how many other spies will come in through this lil loophole?

BBG

(2,526 posts)
27. Any traitor that can trade favors with enemies
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:11 PM
Aug 2018

Is still a traitor. To call him a useful idiot is to disparage regular idiots.

janx

(24,128 posts)
31. I don't think that's the way it works.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 06:20 PM
Aug 2018

And I doubt that our reps and senators are going to go along with this.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
32. Remember the old days when the GOP was pro America and anti Russia??
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 05:54 AM
Aug 2018

Guess there are more pee tapes out there than we realize.

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