House bans eating of cats, dogs
Source: CBS News
The government shuts down at the end of the month, and Democrats and Republicans seem unable to make a deal to keep it open. They are, however, united in trying to stop people from eating pets.
The House passed a bill Wednesday by voice vote banning the slaughter, transportation, sale and possession of dogs and cats for consumption. The "Dog and Cat Meat Trade Prohibition Act of 2018" was sponsored by Republican Rep. Vern Buchanan and Democratic Rep. Alcee Hastings, both of Florida.
Buchanan wrote in his statement about the bill that 44 states do not have laws banning consumption of cats and dogs, adding that this practice "should be outlawed completely given how beloved these animals are for most Americans." California, Georgia, Hawaii, Michigan, New York and Virginia are the six states that explicitly ban cat and dog consumption.
Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-bans-eating-of-cats-dogs/
This wasn't already a federal law?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,957 posts)Rhiannon12866
(204,776 posts)Girard442
(6,065 posts)Rhiannon12866
(204,776 posts)But that's not necessarily true all over.
AllaN01Bear
(17,987 posts)well , here we go again with the government shutdown thingh. finger pointing follows.
RockRaven
(14,899 posts)Really? That's the line you draw?
justgamma
(3,662 posts)Canoe52
(2,948 posts)dchill
(38,442 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)alp227
(32,006 posts)"Chinese" restaurants?
This sounds like something a Freeper would post.
Marcuse
(7,446 posts)[link:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-17/chinese-dog-meat-eating-linked-to-history-of-famine/9454394
"What is this?" I asked. "This is dog meat," my mother said.
Now, I had my own pet Pekingese dog at the time named Duo Duo, who I loved, so you can imagine the shock and outrage that shot through my body at that thought.
I remember thinking as a dog owner, "I simply cannot accept this in any way". However my parents felt differently and just did not understand.
msongs
(67,361 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)That's what pisses me off the most. They hang on his every word, believing his idiotic tweets about Dems being responsible for everything bad that happens. The MSM plays along.
JohnnyRingo
(18,618 posts)Does Paul Ryan know how much we seniors pay for health care these days? Ran the neighborhood out of squirrels months ago.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)Birds, Rabbits, Hamsters, Turtles etc.
MLAA
(17,250 posts)I dont see a difference between cats and dogs and cows, pigs, chickens. I didnt always notice this ...for many years I ate and enjoyed a variety of animals. About 8 years ago I was forced to open my eyes. Now I cant discern a difference.
jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)... and I have also raised pigs in the past and have pet dogs and cats and 4 working livestock dogs... I can say that IMHO there is a rather substantial difference between companion animals like dogs and cats and herd animals or especially birds. I love and respect all of my animals but comparing the brains and behavior of a dog with that of a chicken or cow seems to me to fail to grasp the depth of intelligence and personality of a dog. All are domesticated obviously, but livestock have been bred for 1000s of years for meat purposes not to be the companions of human beings. (And I am telling you my wife would attest I REALLY love my dairy goats who I have hours of contact with each day on the milk stand milking by hand.) But as sweet as they can be and also show intelligence in a lot of ways, they are not like a dog. I don't relish killing any animal, but if you provide it with a humane good life and kill it in a humane fashion to feed people, then there is nothing ethically wrong with that just in my opinion.
I wanted to edit to add that I do also realize that the vast majority of the beef chicken and pork that we consume is not raised under the humane conditions we maintain on our small farm. Feedlots and caged chicken factories are neither humane nor healthy as a rule.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)over the years I have raised, taken care of most all kinds of domestic animals... I don't eat meat (although I realize others do, so I raise healthy animals for others)
If people are going to eat meat, I see no reason not to eat any and all, including dogs and cats (as well as insects)
our obsession with domestic dogs and cats has created a nightmare for others with the number of wild dogs and feral cats in the U.S. and world.
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/farm-animals-that-are-probably-smarter-than-your-dog/
If you knew that farm animals were as intelligent as your children or pets, would you stop eating meat? If you answered yes, then it might be time to do so.
From pigs to cows, sheep to chickens, farm animals are all much smarter than weve ever given them credit for. Pigs learn their names and can do tricks like a dog. Cows, goats, and chickens all have incredibly complex social constructs, and they have best friends just like we do.
Once we acknowledge the how amazing these animals truly are, it becomes harder to justify they ways we abuse them. While it might be uncomfortable to challenge the idea that farm animals are food, when we know what we do about their intelligence and abilities, dont we owe it them to share the truth?
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/29/574598877/no-easy-answer-to-growing-number-of-stray-dogs-in-the-u-s-advocate-says
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2004/09/feral-cat-problem/
braddy
(3,585 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,046 posts)many farm families in coldest climes brought livestock into the back of the house in winter. It's common for people to raise chickens or pigs, and then slaughter them for food. It's an ethical dilemma. Perhaps it turns on the idea - does the animal have consciousness that it's life will end soon for food? Is it aware. I doubt it will ever be resolved. But animals are unhappy in cages. Just like humans, or babies, ya know, Trump?
This legislation seems like electioneering at the last minute to do something popular. Does it include roadkill? Because when very poor people are without food they will do what they have to do. Such as collecting roadkill, eating cat or dog food, and if you believe this legislation, pets.
In a natural state, we are part of the food chain. We've just been on a 5 thousand year winning streak.
7962
(11,841 posts)Thats what goes on in North Korea. Rats too.
safeinOhio
(32,641 posts)about us eating cows. Cultural norms vary.
7962
(11,841 posts)Horse meat, dog meat, etc are eaten in other parts of the world & if we go there, we have to just accept it.
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,346 posts)turbinetree
(24,683 posts)NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...possum', there might have been real impacts on rural protein consumption.
Hotler
(11,396 posts)with a voice vote they can pass a bill limiting the volume levels of TV commercials to 50% lower than the program level. A bill like this will benefit everybody.
Nitram
(22,765 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Renew Deal
(81,846 posts)Bayard
(22,005 posts)I hate this man to the core.
Eating cats and dogs is a cultural thing. When I lived in Calif., there was a real surge of pets disappearing up in the mountains where I lived. There was one guy in particular, that was driving around in a van and snatching dogs right out of peoples' yards--sometimes with the kids right there. He was taking them down to Fresno to sell for meat. I had a friend who lost two dogs. I figured it was good that I had Sighthounds at the time--no meat on their bones.
meow2u3
(24,759 posts)That's news to me. I thought the cat/dog meat trade was already illegal.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)but then I wouldn't eat my grandson.
tclambert
(11,084 posts)"The poor are meat for the rich to eat."
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)U-S-A U-S-A
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Its eiher perfectly acceptable to eat all animals or its wrong to eat all animals; drawing arbitrary boundaries between species is morally bankrupt.