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Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:37 AM

Report: Canadian Pot Smokers Risk Ban From U.S.

Source: The Daily Beast



Canadian cannabis users, investors, and workers will risk a “lifetime ban on travel to the U.S.” if American officials gain knowledge of such information, a senior Customs and Border Protection official told Politico. Canada will legalize retail marijuana sales starting Oct. 17, the world’s first major industrialized nation to do so, but Todd Owen—executive assistant commissioner for the Office of Field Operations—said the pot industry is not welcome in the United States. Owen told the website that Canadians who have smoked pot in the past and lie about it to an official will have committed “fraud and misrepresentation, which carries a lifetime ban.” If the traveler admits to past use, they will be considered “inadmissible” and will not be allowed to return unless they pay a $585 waiver fee. In addition, investors and pot-industry professionals will not be considered admissible. “We don’t recognize that as a legal business,” Owen said. In response, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the United States had the right to enforce its borders the way it wanted to. “Every country has the right to judge who gets to come into their borders or not. I wouldn’t presume to have any other country tell me how or who we can let into Canada,” he said. “And I certainly won’t work to assume or impress upon the U.S. who they have to let in or not.”

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Reply Report: Canadian Pot Smokers Risk Ban From U.S. (Original post)
DonViejo Friday OP
ProfessorGAC Friday #1
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:44 AM

1. Huh?

There are completely legal said businesses right here in the US. How can they not recognize that as a legal business?

Stupid drug warriors. Are the CEO's of companies that make Norco or Oxycontin also personna non grata?

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:48 AM

25. They are not legal under federal law

Even if the states have accepted it. This is just a way to pressure both Canada and the states who have legalized pot, as well as another way for border agents to exert control over people.

Fucking fascists.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #25)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:31 PM

28. Your Last Line * 1e6 (eom)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:48 AM

2. WTF?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:10 AM

3. So if I go to Canada and smoke pot I could be stranded there for the rest of my life?

Or at least the rest of the Trump presiduncy? Hmmm......

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Response to tanyev (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:19 AM

10. Yeah, the Canadians might be forced by their own decency to take care of you.

Look for a spate of Americans trying to re-enter the U.S. while actually toking on a joint.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:17 AM

17. If I didn't mind the cold...

I might consider it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:12 AM

4. What about Norwegians who smoke weed?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:13 AM

5. Yet they allow

Known corrupt russian criminals and spies into this country still. They ban people of color any way they can, and ignore those corrupt people they need help from. Now any way they can hurt Canadians just because he wants to is another huge mistake by trump.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:15 AM

6. They're trying to normalize bullying behavior.

They want a country where people live in fear that an officer can devastate their lives with a snap of his fingers.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:17 AM

7. Canada has banned American smokers forever

Canada has had a policy of non-admittance for Cannabis users for a very long time. A single conviction gets you banned for life. This is nothing more than another stupid government policy by both sides of this argument.

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Response to Gymbo (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:28 AM

23. Only if it's a felony conviction...

Any American that has a felony conviction on their criminal record may not be permitted entry into Canada unless they have received special permission from the Canadian government. Even if the conviction happened 20+ years ago, foreign nationals with a felony may never be deemed rehabilitated by the passage of time and risk being denied entry at the Canadian border even decades later. The Canadian border has full access to all the criminal record and DMV databases in the United States, so anyone who has been convicted of a felony will very likely be flagged at the border.

http://www.temporaryresidentpermitcanada.com/felony.php

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:17 AM

8. What if I own an index fund and the fund manager invests in a Cannabis stock?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:19 AM

9. Canadians live more permissively than here in the US

generally speaking and a greater percentage of the Canadian population have sampled or do smoke cannabis I would estimate.

Investors? So if you own shares in a pharmaceutical company developing cannabis-based pain relief for cancer patients you are inadmissible to the US? Youthful indiscretions are same as driving through customs while high?

I just don't know what the world is gaining with all this interrogation of people. $585 a head I guess. "Totality of the circumstances." I could apply a lot of totality for such confiscatory heist. Wonder if the money is skimmed off to a tariff account, or grows the ICE budget. Surely not helping little old ladies in Arkansas.

Bureaucratic power whimsically applied - BPWA. Legal proceedings devolving to those of the Inquisition and trial by fire.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:28 AM

11. I wonder if this would include Justin Trudeau who has admitted smoking pot. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:47 AM

12. Pot is legal in WA, OR, CO.

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Response to muntrv (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:51 AM

21. Not federally though

And borders are federal.

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Response to muntrv (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

26. So will ICE prevent you from crossing into "real america"?

sarcasm, but at this point I could imagine having your passport in jeopardy for something legal in one state but not in "real america"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:55 AM

13. Driving another wedge between Canada and us?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:58 AM

14. What if I fly from Canada, maybe Calgary,

to Denver?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:08 AM

15. Knuckle Draggers

How did Trump find a job for every knuckle-dragger in America? Truly a phenomenal effort to employ every American GOP idiot.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:14 AM

16. This is fucking ridiculous.

Show me the statute that backs this up, "senior official." I'll wait.

-- Mal

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:20 AM

18. Border guards have their own rules.



Try not to look like a pot smoker.

Or change your name to Justin Trudeau....jes sayin'.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:20 AM

19. I'm mortally terrified of Canadian pot smokers.: Sarcasm: NT

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:50 AM

20. Real life story

While camping we meet a couple who are friends with a couple from Canada who come down to the desert every winter to help manage a park. They are "snowbirds" and have done this for years.

Last year while coming into the USA they were asked at the border if they EVER had smoked cannabis. They laughed and said yes, decades ago.

That was it. That's all it took.
They were not allowed into the USA. It was big hassle.
I'm forgot if it was a lifetime ban or not but it really caused them much strife.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:12 AM

22. This sounds likle Jeff Sessions pet project,

right after interring babies in cages. What a miserable piece of trash in a total garbage pile.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:20 AM

24. in other news...

Customs and Border Protection officials announce that buggy whips and stove top hats will be all the rage next year!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:28 PM

27. This too shall pass

And in 20 yrs, largely forgotten.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Sep 15, 2018, 01:14 AM

29. lame

but also canada prohibits those convicted of DUI from driving into their country.

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