Tightening Texas race boosts Democrats' hopes of taking Senate: Reuters poll
Source: Reuters
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Democratic congressman aiming to unseat Republican U.S. Senator Ted Cruz in Texas has pulled even in the race, a Reuters poll found, a spark of hope for a party seeking a Senate majority to curb President Donald Trumps agenda.
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Among the bright spots for Democrats: U.S. Representative Beto ORourke of Texas had a 2-percentage-point lead over Cruz among likely voters in the state and U.S. Representative Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona had a 3-point lead over Republican congresswoman Martha McSally in the race to succeed U.S. Senator Jeff Flake, one of Trumps most vocal critics from within his own party.
Both leads are within the polls 4-percentage-point credibility intervals, a measure of precision, meaning the candidates are drawing about the same level of support.
The finding suggests that ORourke has a shot at becoming the first Democrat to represent Texas in the U.S. Senate in a quarter century.
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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-statepolls/tightening-texas-race-boosts-democrats-hopes-of-taking-senate-reuters-poll-idUSKCN1LZ18B
BumRushDaShow
(128,896 posts)Although there needs to be some umph put into the Nevada race too because of all the races, that one was the easiest pickup and suddenly the Democrat (Rosen) has fallen behind Heller. The same goes for the Florida race with Nelson vs Scott (with Nelson being the (D) incumbent).
rsdsharp
(9,168 posts)but yesterday the story was that a Quinnipiac poll had Cruz with a nine point lead.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/ted-cruz-takes-nine-point-lead-beto-orourke/
BumRushDaShow
(128,896 posts)they did what Gallup had done in 2012 - suddenly switch from reporting "registered voters" to now reporting "likely voters". I.e. (from your link), -
I remember during the 2012 Presidential election when Gallup did their switch from "registered" to "likely", which caused a similar significant shift, and eventually a later big fail because of who they considered "likely voters", not taking into account that their methodology of using the same old thinking of who was "likely" to vote, could not be carried over and accurately applied in that instance.
This is where pollsters are going to really have to make some decisions and not just go with "past practices" which introduce an automatic bias. The same thing happened (outside of the Russian meddling that had some impact) in 2016, where there were a group of voters who were not factored in as "likely" (those disaffected deplorable Drumpsters, many of whom had never voted before or had even previously voted for Democrats).
After the 2012 fiasco (where Gallup no longer does this poll), Huffington summarized what Gallup said happened -
That, in and of itself, Newport said, was at least 1 point more towards Romney than the average of other polls that were using some time of likely voter model. Thus, on that sense alone, he concluded, they moved things too far in moving the sample towards Mitt Romney. While Gallup is continuing to investigate its likely voter procedures with a series of experiments in the fall 2013 state elections, it pointed out one big issue in 2012: that many Obama voters said they hadnt given much thought to the election, removing them from the likely voter pool even though they intended to cast a ballot. Gallup is researching whether it needs to majorly overhaul or even replace the way it identifies likely voters.
Under-Representation of Regions. Gallup also weights its data by a variety of factors, including broad geographical regions such as the Midwest and the South. But each region contains several time zones. Due to differing response rates, Gallup didnt interview enough people in certain time zones within some regions, effectively undersampling states that vote more Democratic.
Faulty Representation of Race and Ethnicity. As HuffPost first reported in June 2012, Gallup in recent years has used an unusual method to ask about race that distorted the racial composition of its samples when the data were weighted. Unlike most other pollsters, who ask respondents to select from a list of racial and ethnic categories, Gallup asked respondents whether they identified with each racial and ethnic group one by one. This led to a disproportionate number of people who said they were multiracial, and that in turn distorted the weighting procedure, effectively giving too much weight to some white voters.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/gallup-poll-2012_n_3384882.html
From Gallup's report (PDF) -
Nevertheless, nearly all firms underestimated support for Obama. Gallups likely voter analysis largely speaks to the difference between Gallups likely voter model and other firms models, indicating the need for improvements that might be made based on further research. By making the vote choice less Democratic/more Republican, Gallups likely voter model performed in the same general way as the models that all other election polling firms used. Gallups four-point shift toward Romney, however, was greater than other polls shifts. And, various combinations of the use or weighting of likely voter questions would have changed Gallups final estimate of the presidential vote to be more in line with other firms. Thus, Gallup will continue to investigate the models performance, both with upcoming validation studies of the 2013 gubernatorial elections, and in the context of additional research on the underlying sample. If changes in the research and election environments have shifted national samples closer to likely voters than has been the case historically, then the likely voter model needs to be adapted to correct for it.
https://news.gallup.com/file/poll/162887/Gallup%202012%20Presidential%20Election%20Polling%20Review.pdf
So bottom line is that we'll have to hope that aggregate polls give a better idea of what is going on. But even then all you have to do is look at what happened in 2016 (although most said it was "close" but the actual result produced literally polar opposite outcomes of what was supposedly "close" when comparing the actual electoral votes vs the popular vote).
And a real tell-tale sign of misjudging "likely voters" and "actual voters", was what happened in Alabama with Doug Jones. Blacks in general would have definitely not been considered "likely voters" - particularly during a special election based on "past practice" (bias). Yet here we are with Doug Jones elected out of Alabama thanks to an enhanced turnout of black women.
rsdsharp
(9,168 posts)are of likely voters. How Quinnipiac polled previously does not change that. On successive days, one poll of likely voters has Cruz up by 9 points, and the next day another poll of likely voters has Beto up by 2.
BumRushDaShow
(128,896 posts)And it needed to be clarified that the article you linked to uses the term "shot up" and does other things to compare it to a previous Quinnipiac poll -
I.e., THAT article was trying to characterize it as being significantly different from the previous Qunninipiac poll because of some magic... and they even speculate in their subtitle "Undecided voters finally developed an opinion of ORourkeand it is unfavorable", yet they should have really highlighted the fact that the poll has switched from "registered voters" to "likely voters". I.e., the article is overall biased. The question at this point with Quinnipiac is who they consider "likely voters" (which is what brought up my thing about Gallup and their problems determining "likely voters" ).
I was not comparing the Quinnipiac to the Reuters/Ipsos poll from the OP because you will probably have these polls all over the map initially now that they have started reporting "likely" voters. I was just noting the issues that I had with the article about the Quinnipiac poll you linked to.
bucolic_frolic
(43,141 posts)a viable candidate for President, and if there's anything Texans want it's their man in the White House!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,180 posts)He's a jerk and has done nothing while in the Senate except bloviate and obstruct. O' Rourke, on the other hand, is a reach across the aisle and get things done kind of guy. He recently worked on a bill with John Cornyn to increase funding for the ports of entry so that immigrants can be processed through LEGAL channels. What a concept!
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)But this one is more in line with other recent polling.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Going to be a close race.
Make sure every person you know is registered.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Beto is awesome and I want desperately for him to win. But we just last night lost a Texas Senate seat in a special election to yet another crazy-ass-religious-jerk. We lost because Democrats didnt show up at the polls.
What in the hell is it going to take?