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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:52 AM Sep 2018

Two Men Told Senate Staffers They Had "The Encounter" With Christine Blasey Ford Not Brett Kavanaugh

Source: BuzzFeed News


The Senate Judiciary Committee did not name the two men who told staff they believed they were involved in the "encounter" alleged by Christine Blasey Ford.

Zoe Tillman
BuzzFeed News Reporter

Reporting From Washington, DC

Posted on September 26, 2018, at 11:33 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — Senate Judiciary Committee staff interviewed two men who said they believed that they, and not US Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, had "the encounter" with the woman who accused Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were teenagers, according to new information released Wednesday night by the committee.

The revelation — which came on the eve of much-anticipated public testimony from Kavanaugh and the woman who has accused him of assault, Christine Blasey Ford — included few details. The committee didn't identify the men, offer details about what they said, state whether committee staff found their accounts credible, or indicate whether there would be any further follow-up.

The committee released a timeline describing how committee Chair Chuck Grassley and his staff had responded to misconduct allegations against Kavanaugh, starting with Ford's account of being attacked at a party in the summer of 1982. On Sept. 24, the committee said that staff interviewed "a man who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter with Dr. Ford in 1982 that is the basis of his complaint."

Committee staff interviewed the man again the next day, on Sept. 25, according to the timeline. "He described his recollection of their interaction in some detail," according to the committee.

Read more: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/two-men-told-senate-staffers-they-had-the-encounter-with

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Two Men Told Senate Staffers They Had "The Encounter" With Christine Blasey Ford Not Brett Kavanaugh (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Mercenaries underpants Sep 2018 #1
I don't even think they're mercenaries. The committee staff made them up. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #22
Could be they enlisted more help from the staffers they sent to the Miami-Dade vote recount Judi Lynn Sep 2018 #40
No actual people are needed. They just wrote some shit down. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #41
This is really sick and really low down dirty even for Republicans katmondoo Sep 2018 #2
So the SJC interviewed these two men but not Debra Ramirez, Julie Swetnick or Mark Judge Anon-C Sep 2018 #3
Muddy the waters truthisfreedom Sep 2018 #4
Did they provide a sworn deposition? htuttle Sep 2018 #5
Are they going to testify under oath during an open committee session? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #17
Rs already established if players in this game remain anonymous, they can be discounted. forgotmylogin Sep 2018 #30
Let me guess . . . moreland01 Sep 2018 #6
Gosh, sounds like the FBI really, really needs to get involved. tanyev Sep 2018 #7
You bet, I agree watoos Sep 2018 #8
Under oath ScratchCat Sep 2018 #9
Putin must have some really bad shit watoos Sep 2018 #10
Money!!! atreides1 Sep 2018 #21
TWO men bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #11
Wherever they work report it to their employers. Fire their asses. watoos Sep 2018 #12
"I am Sparticus!" no_hypocrisy Sep 2018 #13
Good one JohnnyRingo Sep 2018 #27
Wait, two *different* men think they were both the main actor in the attempted rape? knightmaar Sep 2018 #14
Since there is no statute of limitations in Maryland, did they turn them over to law enforcement? UpInArms Sep 2018 #15
Yip, and their employers should immediately fire them. watoos Sep 2018 #16
And don't forget the monthly reporting as a sex offender ... UpInArms Sep 2018 #18
And registration as sex offenders wherever they live. DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #39
Well then, a police or FBI investigation is needed, and the confirmation process must be suspended muriel_volestrangler Sep 2018 #19
Either way they are committing a crime or committed a crime. watoos Sep 2018 #20
Who are these so-called ''senate staffers'' ? These Rethuglicans will stoop so low. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #23
When a bank is robbed.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #24
Lol! KPN Sep 2018 #25
Have them make this claim under oath, then. Oneironaut Sep 2018 #26
That doesn't cut it. Put them under oath. No one should remain anonymous for attempted rape still_one Sep 2018 #28
Lee Atwater would be so proud. BlueIdaho Sep 2018 #29
Oh really? Call Maryland State Police and have them investigated since there is no statute of muntrv Sep 2018 #31
My bullshit detector just exploded Nac Mac Feegle Sep 2018 #32
Why drag this shit in here? PubliusEnigma Sep 2018 #33
Yeah, if this was true it would be all over everything and the republicans would be using it to take chowder66 Sep 2018 #34
"Oh, really? What were their names?". . . . "Uh... Larry... and, um... Moe?" RockRaven Sep 2018 #35
Wish they could find proof of payoff/offers to those guys. n/t woodsprite Sep 2018 #36
What curious wording ... area51 Sep 2018 #37
Make their names public and ensure they are required to DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #38

underpants

(182,772 posts)
1. Mercenaries
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:54 AM
Sep 2018

Operatives just like Kavanaugh. They'll take one for the team and in someway be richly rewarded

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
40. Could be they enlisted more help from the staffers they sent to the Miami-Dade vote recount
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:51 PM
Sep 2018

to keep those votes from being recount, where they succeeded. Remember them?






Info:
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=david_leahy_1

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
3. So the SJC interviewed these two men but not Debra Ramirez, Julie Swetnick or Mark Judge
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:58 AM
Sep 2018

Sounds reasonable.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
5. Did they provide a sworn deposition?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:03 AM
Sep 2018

If not, they aren't worth listening to. If they did, it seems the only way to get to the bottom of it is an FBI investigation. Somebody is committing perjury.

17. Are they going to testify under oath during an open committee session?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:51 AM
Sep 2018

Seems peculiar they popped up just before the hearing. If I were the FBI, the first thing I'd look at is their bank accounts to see if there are any recent large deposits.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
30. Rs already established if players in this game remain anonymous, they can be discounted.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:26 AM
Sep 2018

Let Ford be in the same room with them and say what they allege to her face.

moreland01

(738 posts)
6. Let me guess . . .
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:04 AM
Sep 2018

They came to the interview wearing MAGAt hats and t-shirts that said "Better Russian than Democrat."

Just guessing.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. You bet, I agree
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:14 AM
Sep 2018

cancel all of the hearings and scheduled votes and call in the FBI.

The article says that judicial committee staff did the interview which is pretty convenient keeping the judicial committee Senators out of it.

I live in Pa. and from here I can smell a big stinking rat. Karl Rove would be proud of these skull fuckers.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
10. Putin must have some really bad shit
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:20 AM
Sep 2018

on these Republican Senators.

So will the complicit M$M run with this tale? I keep trying to explain how important the narrative is in everything. Avenatti had changed it in opposition to Kavanaugh, now this. I have to take a break here I'm swearing too much.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
21. Money!!!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:07 AM
Sep 2018

My theory is that the Russians have been funneling money to Republicans since Obama's first term...of course this was done through shell companies and lobbying firms!

And now payment is due, and that means assisting in making the US a puppet of Putin and Russia!!!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. Wherever they work report it to their employers. Fire their asses.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:30 AM
Sep 2018

Oh wait, they probably work for the GOP.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
14. Wait, two *different* men think they were both the main actor in the attempted rape?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:31 AM
Sep 2018

What are we talking about here?

Are they taking the heat for him, a la, "I am rapist-Spartacus"?

Or is it just that so many frat boys were drunkenly raping women in 1982 that they all think they actually did it?

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
15. Since there is no statute of limitations in Maryland, did they turn them over to law enforcement?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:47 AM
Sep 2018

When will formal charges be filed? Should be a slam dunk, since they have pled guilty under oath, right?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
19. Well then, a police or FBI investigation is needed, and the confirmation process must be suspended
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:02 AM
Sep 2018

until they reach conclusions. Plus these 2 need to appear in front of the committee, if they don't get charged (or if they only get charged with wasting police time, or attempting to pervert the course of justice).

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
24. When a bank is robbed....
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:52 AM
Sep 2018

we tend to believe the banker before we give credibility to bank robbers.

Except for Repugs.....they are the bank robbers......

KPN

(15,642 posts)
25. Lol!
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:11 AM
Sep 2018


Too much! Beside their fanatical deplorables and religious right, who in the world would fall for this kind of crap.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
26. Have them make this claim under oath, then.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:14 AM
Sep 2018

Otherwise, someone could make a temporary claim to derail the hearings, and then recant then after the fact.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
31. Oh really? Call Maryland State Police and have them investigated since there is no statute of
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:29 AM
Sep 2018

limitations for rape.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
34. Yeah, if this was true it would be all over everything and the republicans would be using it to take
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:42 AM
Sep 2018

advantage.

If this was actually true maybe these two guys are the ones mistaken about who their victim was.

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