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(34,195 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 07:46 PM Sep 2018

Warren: I will consider running for president after the midterms

Source: The Hill

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said at a town hall today she would consider running for president in 2020 once the midterm elections are done.

“After November 6, I will take a hard look at running for president,” she told a crowd in Holyoke, Mass., which garnered an extended standing ovation, according to CBS News.

The comments are among the firmest of any prospective Democratic presidential hopeful that they could seek the party’s nomination.

Should Warren run for president, it is expected that she would enter a crowded Democratic primary and could face fellow Sens. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Warren has long been considered a darling to the progressive wing of the Democratic Party in a time when many prospective candidates seek to appeal to that part of the party.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/409095-warren-i-will-consider-running-for-president-after-the-midterms



Elizabeth Warren says she will take a "hard look" at running for president after midterms

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elizabeth-warren-2020-presidential-run-hard-look-holyoke-massachusetts-today-2018-09-29/

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Warren: I will consider running for president after the midterms (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2018 OP
I love her, but she can't win. We need young charismatic like Newsom Pisces Sep 2018 #1
I heard that a lot about Obama KayF Sep 2018 #17
She's no Obama. And I always thought Obama could win. Pisces Sep 2018 #19
The party wanted Obama. murielm99 Sep 2018 #31
I don't like her and she can't win. DrToast Oct 2018 #48
I love Warren. She has heart, brains and down to earth gusto. DemocracyMouse Oct 2018 #51
John Edwards, Part 2? DrToast Oct 2018 #49
Warren: I'll serve my full Senate term if reelected (April 5) brooklynite Sep 2018 #2
She has *always* left wiggle room. thesquanderer Sep 2018 #5
I'm sure voters will appreciate that subtle distinction... brooklynite Sep 2018 #9
The funny thing about your post is you're not joking BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #16
I think it's pretty common KayF Sep 2018 #18
But Warren isn't supposed to be an "ordinary politician". brooklynite Sep 2018 #24
Not ordinary according to who? thesquanderer Sep 2018 #34
I appreciate it. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #45
This was from April. liberalnarb Sep 2018 #7
Actually, I think it's good she said this now... thesquanderer Sep 2018 #44
I like her, but don't know how she'd do against younger, more charismatic candidates in the primary bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #3
Nevertheless,she persisted. deminks Sep 2018 #4
sometimes, people run but not to win the nomination..... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #6
YES! liberalnarb Sep 2018 #8
No TheCowsCameHome Sep 2018 #10
She is a great senator Dopers_Greed Sep 2018 #11
Warren is a good Senator for us. We worked hard and closely to get her elected. Sadly, FailureToCommunicate Sep 2018 #12
I agree. I am like the work she is doing as my Senator and I would vote for her as Senator again, smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #47
Pretty short-sighted IMO to cross her off because she's currently in the Senate... pecosbob Sep 2018 #13
Please no Rebl2 Sep 2018 #14
No one articulates the progressive vision better than Sen. Warren. Yavin4 Sep 2018 #15
She can campaign for the candidate when the time comes. Pisces Sep 2018 #20
I would support her. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #21
Hard pass. BlueStater Sep 2018 #22
Meh. I think it should be Booker or Harris. Luciferous Sep 2018 #23
i would support her. Democratic voters are ready for a real pprogressive candidate INdemo Sep 2018 #25
Democrats will vote for who the Democratic nominee is. Whether she has a good chance of winning the still_one Sep 2018 #27
There are going to be a lot of very go prospective Democratic candidates rpannier Sep 2018 #32
If she runs and wins the nomination, great, but if she doesn't win the nomination, I will be damned still_one Sep 2018 #26
That wont happen. I just said Democratic voters are ready for and will vote for a Progressive INdemo Sep 2018 #38
Put you on ignore for what? I don't even know what your point is. All I a said is no matter who still_one Sep 2018 #39
I don't know INdemo Sep 2018 #43
She'd have my vote. With a lot of enthusiasm. n/t woundedkarma Sep 2018 #28
I love her! mountain grammy Sep 2018 #29
We must stay together on what ever candidate the Dems choose. There's too much at stake. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #30
That should be the main focus still_one Sep 2018 #40
No matter who wins the Democrat primary's and wins duforsure Sep 2018 #33
No more candidates from the blue Northeast or California. djg21 Sep 2018 #35
Hope she runs. BlueWI Sep 2018 #36
This is going to be a mess madville Sep 2018 #37
Clinton is NOT running again. She made it very clear, and frankly all the distortions, lies, and still_one Sep 2018 #41
He will not run. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #46
Too early to start this: Let's focus on midterms, and registering people to vote. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #42
If so, Elizabeth, embrace it. Pocahontas vs the great white Satan. truthisfreedom Oct 2018 #50

KayF

(1,345 posts)
17. I heard that a lot about Obama
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:45 PM
Sep 2018

I like him a lot but he "can't win", because of this or that, including the fact that he was black. (Still is lol). Well, the guy that "could't win", won, and then got re-elected.

murielm99

(30,730 posts)
31. The party wanted Obama.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 02:05 AM
Sep 2018

I am active in Illinois politics. Don't discount this state. We have a lot of powerful people here.

It was obvious to me from the beginning of his career as a state politician that the national Democrats wanted to have him run for President. Remember his keynote speech in 2004? That should have been a clear indicator to everyone. Remember that when he ran for President he had not even completed his term as Senator.

I belonged to several statewide Democratic organizations when Obama ran for President. Even before the primaries, we were being lined up to endorse him as the candidate. I objected to that. It is the norm to refrain from endorsing before the primary.

I was a Hillary supporter then, but I could see the handwriting on the wall. Of course I worked hard for Obama after he won the nomination and when he was reelected.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
48. I don't like her and she can't win.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:51 PM
Oct 2018

Amy Klobuchar all the way. She would chew Donald Trump up and spit him out.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
51. I love Warren. She has heart, brains and down to earth gusto.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:26 AM
Oct 2018

She's progressive and sensible. Strong, but warm.

She is also very media savvy. Makes concise, meme-friendly statements that pack a wallop. She is the hard-hitter we need – with research and science to back her up.

brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
2. Warren: I'll serve my full Senate term if reelected (April 5)
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 07:48 PM
Sep 2018

DORCHESTER, Mass. — Elizabeth Warren said she would serve her full six-year term in the Senate if reelected in November.

“Yes, that’s my plan. I’m running for the United States Senate in 2018,” Warren told reporters Thursday, when asked if she would commit to serving out her full term. “I am not running for president of the United States. That’s my plan.”

The Massachusetts Democrat had notably dodged the question in a March 11 interview on NBC News’ “Meet the Press,” fanning speculation about her 2020 plans even as she told host Chuck Todd that she was not running for president.

Warren clarified her intentions after participating in a moderated town hall event Thursday evening at the Boston Teachers Union.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/05/warren-pledges-full-senate-term-2018-505308

thesquanderer

(11,983 posts)
5. She has *always* left wiggle room.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:11 PM
Sep 2018

In this case, it was her "plan." Well, plans change. It was by no means a pledge/promise.

brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
9. I'm sure voters will appreciate that subtle distinction...
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:22 PM
Sep 2018

I'm also sure folks here will be understanding the next time a Republican who pledges to run for only two terms decides that his plans have "changed".

BeyondGeography

(39,368 posts)
16. The funny thing about your post is you're not joking
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:43 PM
Sep 2018

She gave herself wiggle room at the time and you still don’t see it. Told you five-and-a-half months ago you were wrong.

KayF

(1,345 posts)
18. I think it's pretty common
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:47 PM
Sep 2018

people want to pick the right time to announce, and until then they deny they're thinking about it.

thesquanderer

(11,983 posts)
34. Not ordinary according to who?
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:08 AM
Sep 2018

She's not "ordinary" in the sense that she positions herself more to the left than most Dems.

Though you could also argue she's more honest than some who have entirely reversed course, in that, whether you want to see it or not, she has always left wiggle room when discussing her future. No "Shermanesque" statement was ever issued, and she surely knew that she could issue such a statement at any time. But she was "typical politician" in avoiding making such a statement even when pressed. As far as I know, she has never actually committed/pledged/promised to serve the full 6 year Senate term if elected.

Typical exchange would go something like this:

Q: What are your thoughts about running for President.
A: I am not running for President. I am running for the Senate.
Q: Are you saying you will not run for President?
A: I am not running for President. I am running for the Senate.

That is, when asked for pin-down clarification on a followup, she would never say Yes or No, she would only repeat what she'd already said. (And tense matters, as Bill Clinton taught us. He was arguably acquitted from impeachment by virtue of pointing out what the meaning of "is" is.)

At any rate, one can be an ordinary politician in some respects, and not others. there's no purity test for ordinary-ness. Some of the anti-Warren stuff reminds me of anti-Sanders stuff. Anything that shows he is not 100% perfect is used to make him seem like a fraud. Whoever it is, we're not going to get 100% perfect, and we don't need it. We need to win. And we need to move left (IMO).

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
45. I appreciate it.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 08:23 AM
Oct 2018

I realize it's tough to comprehend we can't read tea-leaves and entrails to determine the voter's will, and are merely left to allegations lacking any evidence to support them and spurious 'whataboutisms.'

thesquanderer

(11,983 posts)
44. Actually, I think it's good she said this now...
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:17 PM
Sep 2018

...rather than waiting until after the November election. At least now no one who votes for her will be saying they felt mis-led if she goes that direction.

bearsfootball516

(6,376 posts)
3. I like her, but don't know how she'd do against younger, more charismatic candidates in the primary
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 07:51 PM
Sep 2018

She might struggle against people like Harris and Booker.

getagrip_already

(14,697 posts)
6. sometimes, people run but not to win the nomination.....
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:13 PM
Sep 2018

They are angling for either vp or a cabinet slot. She is my senator, and I honestly don't think she wants to run for president. She isn't a campaigner. She doesn't like to raise money.

But she might want a cabinet slot - say treasury - to undo the damage the munchkin has done. Running could get her some national attention, especially if she uses a populist message about fiscal issues.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
10. No
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:22 PM
Sep 2018

She is wonderful as a senator, but beyond that? I really don't think so.

Bringing up this possibility won't help her re-election bid, either.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
12. Warren is a good Senator for us. We worked hard and closely to get her elected. Sadly,
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:46 PM
Sep 2018

as great as she is, I do not share the wild enthusiasm many have for her, and certainly do not think she has what it takes to run and win the Presidency. If she is maybe going to run for other reasons, then fine.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
47. I agree. I am like the work she is doing as my Senator and I would vote for her as Senator again,
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 12:48 PM
Oct 2018

but I don't think she has a chance to win the Presidency. Especially if she runs against Trump.

pecosbob

(7,534 posts)
13. Pretty short-sighted IMO to cross her off because she's currently in the Senate...
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:58 PM
Sep 2018

does that also apply to Booker? Harris? If it meant a shift in the balance of the Senate that of course would not do the party any good. I have not seen one thing that has damaged her politically in my eyes. She is currently the loudest, clearest voice from Washington on the issues that matter to me. Cue the expected racial slur from Trump...

Rebl2

(13,485 posts)
14. Please no
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:19 PM
Sep 2018

I like her as a Senator, but we need younger people running for President. It’s time for younger people to lead this country and I say this as a person in my 60’s.

Yavin4

(35,432 posts)
15. No one articulates the progressive vision better than Sen. Warren.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:27 PM
Sep 2018

In words, legislation, and enacted reforms, she's critical to building the progressive philosophy that counters decades of conservative ideology.

She can do for progressives what Reagan did for conservatives.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
20. She can campaign for the candidate when the time comes.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:06 PM
Sep 2018

This is not the time or did he mood of the country. We need youth and excitement.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
25. i would support her. Democratic voters are ready for a real pprogressive candidate
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:41 PM
Sep 2018

However every cable news outlet would be chanting .."In order to win they must run in the Middle"
Something we have heard for several election cycles...She would stand a real good chance of winning the Democratic nomination.

Warren/Schiff

still_one

(92,118 posts)
27. Democrats will vote for who the Democratic nominee is. Whether she has a good chance of winning the
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:03 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:22 PM - Edit history (1)

nomination is unknown. There are going to be a lot of very go prospective Democratic candidates

Only part of the question involves who the Democrats support, and equally important part is who will be able to atrack independents,

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
32. There are going to be a lot of very go prospective Democratic candidates
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:40 AM
Sep 2018

And that will be the nub of the whole thing
If you have 10 candidates running, one or two people with 16-18% of the vote will likely drive away candidates who might be much better
Trump benefited from the six zillion clowns running
You don't need a lot of support, you just need committed support in a huge field

still_one

(92,118 posts)
26. If she runs and wins the nomination, great, but if she doesn't win the nomination, I will be damned
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:58 PM
Sep 2018

pissed if those same self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016, play the same game in 2020





INdemo

(6,994 posts)
38. That wont happen. I just said Democratic voters are ready for and will vote for a Progressive
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:05 PM
Sep 2018

for those Democrats that want a candidate running from the "Center" go ahead and put me on ignore now.

still_one

(92,118 posts)
39. Put you on ignore for what? I don't even know what your point is. All I a said is no matter who
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:27 PM
Sep 2018

is the Democratic nominee, Democratic voters I have no doubt will vote for the Democratic nominee. I just hope those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016 don't do the same thing they did in 2016 if their candidate isn't the chosen candidate.

Also, I don't put people on ignore, that isn't my style




INdemo

(6,994 posts)
43. I don't know
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:00 PM
Sep 2018

I just want to see all Democrats all on the same page and no outside distractions.
I belive either way this Javanaugh thing goes Democrat’s have a big advantage to carry both houses and take our Democracy back

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
33. No matter who wins the Democrat primary's and wins
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:23 AM
Sep 2018

I'll vote for them , and I've always liked Senator Warren. Smart, articulate, kind, compassionate, and like President Obama is very likable and funny. She also is very ethical, moral , and has integrity , which is the complete opposite of this idiot we have now. It won't matter as trump will be gone before the 2020 election . He can't make to then after everything exposes him and many others. He knows it, and the one reason he's doing these rally's is to generate money for himself because I suspect he's nearly broke and having problems paying his bills , again. He uses that money for legal fees also.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
35. No more candidates from the blue Northeast or California.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:43 AM
Sep 2018

We need someone from the west, the south or the rust belt. So long as the electoral college exists in its present form, it’s all about delivering electors that ar not a sure thing. New England, NY and CA are already firmly in the blue column and will stay that way no matter who runs.

I’m liking Hickenlooper right now, and it looks like he is going to run.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
36. Hope she runs.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 11:41 AM
Sep 2018

Brilliant and committed to reining in Wall Street and 1 percent excesses.

There are several good candidates, but her voice is distinctive and needed.

madville

(7,408 posts)
37. This is going to be a mess
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 11:45 AM
Sep 2018

I can see Bernie easily winning the nomination with about 30% support in such a potentially crowded field. Booker, Harris, Warren, Gillibrand, Sanders, Biden, Patrick, possibly Bloomberg with his billions, and I can see Clinton trying again as well. It will be a year to remember. They all will come out of the gate attacking Bernie since he will be the preseason #1 when it starts just based on the last performance, he can use that to his advantage though.

still_one

(92,118 posts)
41. Clinton is NOT running again. She made it very clear, and frankly all the distortions, lies, and
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:34 PM
Sep 2018

and trashing she got from a good number of the left, and most of the right was a disgrace.

Both she and Obama were called every foul name in the book by some of those so-called self-identified progressives who characterized them with every foul and sexist name in the book.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
46. He will not run.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:12 AM
Oct 2018

He doesn’t have the temperament to go through a thorough vetting.

His refusal to show his tax returns makes it look like he has something to hide. That’s a non-starter for a Democratic candidate.

Women and people of color are going to drive the next few elections. That’s not Bernie’s base by a long shot.

I’m pretty sure he gets all that.

Sorry.

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