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highplainsdem

(48,973 posts)
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:54 PM Sep 2012

Mitt Romney exited Bain Capital with rare tax benefits in retirement

Source: Washington Post

Details of Romney’s retirement assets are somewhat vague because he has released only one year of full tax returns and declined to provide additional specifics about his personal finances. But interviews with Bain executives and accounting professionals show that he was able to take advantage of tax benefits in innovative ways open only to a narrow slice of extremely affluent people — mostly those who work in private-equity firms and other investment partnerships.

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Romney’s IRA growth could be dramatic, in part, because he, like other Bain employees, was given access to a type of shares in Bain-backed companies that were often private and low-valued when the employees bought in and then were managed by Bain for growth and an eventual sale or public share offering that would maximize shareholder value.

These “A-shares” were priced by Bain at a fraction of another category of stock known as “L-shares,” which functioned like preferred stock, paying dividends and getting priority for payouts. The A-shares, or common shares, were riskier and thus priced lower, so it was possible that a relatively small IRA in­vestment could buy significant amounts of the A-shares in some companies. The use of a dual-share structure is not unusual in the financial industry, and under financial accounting rules the A-shares must reflect a true market value of the underlying assets. Often, the value of these initially cheap A-shares soared, along with the company’s value.

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By leveraging a series of successful A-share investments, taking profits and reinvesting the money into new A-shares, a Bain IRA fund could easily accumulate millions of dollars without any tax penalty. On the disclosure statements Romney files as a candidate for federal office, he reports his financial holdings and values them by assigning a dollar range to each one. By adding these values together, The Washington Post calculated that the holdings in his IRA were worth between $20 million and $102 million in 2011. The total range shifted downward this year, with Romney valuing the holdings in his IRA at between $17 million and $87 million.

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Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romney-exited-bain-capital-with-rare-tax-benefits-in-retirement/2012/09/02/1bddc8de-ec85-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_story.html



The Post said one tax expert told them Bain may have undervalued the A shares, a possibility I've seen mentioned in other stories. That was contradicted by a tax lawyer who's worked for Bain, who told the Post that the share values were worked out "by all the investors at arm’s length based on the company’s prospects and economic condition at the time of the investment."

Romney also benefits because when he left Bain he spent over a year negotiating a severance deal that allows him "to continue sharing in the profits of the company for 10 years in the same way that active managers received compensation. These carried-interest profits would be taxed at a 15 percent rate, less than half the rate that retirees might pay on other income, including payouts from pensions, IRAs and stock options."
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Mitt Romney exited Bain Capital with rare tax benefits in retirement (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2012 OP
How can this be legal?! SunSeeker Sep 2012 #1
The laws only apply to the little people neverforget Sep 2012 #2
Consider who writes the laws? oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #7
It Sounds Like These A Shares DallasNE Sep 2012 #3
money laundering is what I think of when I read these articles, too but wordpix Sep 2012 #16
More evidence that Romney's wealth was gained with his own set of rules. speedoo Sep 2012 #4
But...he bought a shirt at costco! Quantess Sep 2012 #11
You forgot the basement apartment and the selling of stock so they wouldn't have to work!111!! riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #13
“A-shares” ??? “L-shares”??? leveraging??? Submariner Sep 2012 #5
reminds me of the George Carlin rant - 'You ain't in the club' tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #6
It makes me so mad. /nt yardwork Sep 2012 #12
DUers go forth and share this on Facebook roseBudd Sep 2012 #8
K & R! lonestarnot Sep 2012 #9
K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #10
IRS rules state that you are entitled to the 15% rate ONLY if you are active Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #14
Willard doesn't have to abide by IRS rules because he's "special" wordpix Sep 2012 #15

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
7. Consider who writes the laws?
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 05:55 AM
Sep 2012

It probably is legal. Consider who writes the laws. It sure isn't the little people.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
3. It Sounds Like These A Shares
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:32 AM
Sep 2012

Were on assets not available to the public and thus had arbitrary low values assigned for bookkeeping purposes then when finally traded had values that skyrocketed whereby Romney and others could cash in the huge profits within his IRA and then invest the money in normal holdings. It has the look and feel of money laundering. No wonder Romney refuses to release any of his tax returns while at Bain or the 10 years after he left Bain and was still getting full pay.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
16. money laundering is what I think of when I read these articles, too but
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:37 PM
Sep 2012

I am no expert. And it's possible that the hired henchmen in Congress have allowed a loophole so this could be legal.

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
4. More evidence that Romney's wealth was gained with his own set of rules.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:32 AM
Sep 2012

He cannot possibly relate to regular folks.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
11. But...he bought a shirt at costco!
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:31 PM
Sep 2012

And wore it for everyone. He and Ann ate tuna and pasta in college!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
13. You forgot the basement apartment and the selling of stock so they wouldn't have to work!111!!
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:26 AM
Sep 2012

That was the worst of days.....!

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
5. “A-shares” ??? “L-shares”??? leveraging???
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:33 AM
Sep 2012

sounds like what all these financial managers learn in business school is how to game the system by using any tenuous tax dodge they can make up and probably get away with. F'ing crooks.

It's no wonder 40% of my 401(k) vanished in 2008.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
6. reminds me of the George Carlin rant - 'You ain't in the club'
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:32 AM
Sep 2012

The Stock Market Casino managers are making all the money and you are getting a coupon for a free T-shirt.

who's winning here?

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
14. IRS rules state that you are entitled to the 15% rate ONLY if you are active
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 03:01 AM
Sep 2012

If he was not active either he is guilty of fraud or Bain paid the additional taxes on his retirement which would make that amount taxable income to Willard which he should have to claim as income

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
15. Willard doesn't have to abide by IRS rules because he's "special"
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:53 AM
Sep 2012

Ordinary income means nothing and he's not worried about fraud and money laundering

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