Trump threatens military action if Mexico doesn't stop immigration 'onslaught'

[left-of-center2012]

Source: The Hill

President Trump on Thursday warned that he may take military action to stop immigrants from crossing the southern border into the U.S. if Mexico does not take action to stop the "onslaught."

"I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S.....," he said in an initial tweet.

“In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!” he said in a follow-up post.

“Hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught at their Northern Border. All Democrats fault for weak laws!”

Read more: https://thehill.com/latino/411990-trump-threatens-military-action-at-border-if-mexico-doesnt-stop-immigration-onslaught

[The Liberal Lion]

1. Honestly, I don't quite understand this threat.

What is the military going to do, shoot at unarmed civilians? This is a job for border patrol. This is not an invading force, but a caravan of people seeking to escape violence. America is a fucking disgrace with this orange asshole illegally in the White House. I can't believe this is the America I grew up in.

[lark]

17. I can envision him clapping those little orange hands in glee.

He really hates minorities, heck he even hates brown babies. He's also obsessed with looking strong and like most idiot dictators think that killing people makes him look strong, when it just shows what an immoral hate filled racist asshole he is.

[olegramps]

20. Just more red meat for his throng of nincompoops who believe anything he vomits.

We just have to admit that we are doing a piss poor job educating a large percentage of our citizens. The situation is that 30% of our citizens are rabid racists, bible beating hypocrites, second amendment extremists who will only be converted to silence by their passing. When the young people decide that their future looks mighty dim the might, just might, get informed and off their lazy asses to the poles.

As for me, I have one foot in grave and the other on a slippery slope. It really doesn't affect me. I was fortunate to have been born in the era when the FDR Democrats created the Middle Class. You know, that society when the working class were paid decent wages, could afford a home and raise a family on one pay check. That society when our fathers returned from war and were provided with a chances that they never thought possible. A opportunity to open a business with government assistance or the dream of a college education that was the jealous reserve of the privileged money class.

The apathy mob will wake up when they find that Medicare is only covering 10% instead of 80% and supplementary insurance to help cover the 20% can not be found. The same with their Social Security. They will get their pittance that won't even buy a day's groceries after the retirement age is raised to eighty.

[violetpastille]

25. I remember being unable to cross back in the US after 9/11

At the beginning of the trip I was joking with a woman who asked me if I was visiting family in San Diego and I said "no, Tijuana" and we laughed and said, "Same thing!"

Some woman who overheard started hitting me and telling me to "NEVER say that San Diego and Mexico were the SAME THING." I lived in San Francisco and I was like, "Are you okay lady? Sorry I struck a nerve."

After 9/11 the border was closed.

Tens of thousands of people were waiting at the border to go back to work on the US side.
On the US Side when I could finally cross back it was so creepy. A ghost town. Big businesses were shut down until people could come back to work and spend money.

I wondered if the angry woman at the airport owned a business and how that was going for her.

Nothing was bought, nothing was sold. No one was THERE. It was ruinous to the economy.

We simply can't afford to do without our neighbors.

[raccoon]

66. That was a great response to that woman. Nt

[Turin_C3PO]

47. Sadly,

some very well educated people support him. I know a few of them, they’re in my family. My uncle is a rabid right wing colonel with a Masters degree, my aunt a religious nutcase with a Bachelors, and my grandpa, a rabidly racist PhD.

I think Fox News and hate radio have, at least partially, made them the way they are.

[olegramps]

48. By education I am not relegating it to academics, but to ethics and morality with strong civics.

Academics doesn't insulate people from prejudice and bigotry. Civics should impress people with the need to actually practice the right of all people to the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness unimpeded by people who think that those guarantees are only for select groups. I agree that the extreme right wing radio broadcast and FOX have been extremely destructive. The fairness doctrine should be reinstated along with limitations of radio station ownership.

[rlegro]

61. I've met some people like that, but...

... most of them have suddenly stopped talking politics, at least in my collegial presence, because they seem to me embarrassed to be Republicans. And so do many of the candidates. For instance, they're putting out the usual campaign lawn signs, but those signs suggest more embarrassment. The Republican candidates not only avoid mentioning their party affiliation but also have mostly dumped the traditional GOP red backgrounds and now employ blue, Democratic-looking signs. Stealth Republicans, they are.

Meanwhile, a billboard featured on the web shows five or six state Republican candidates with one shared headline: Vote For Progress; as in progressive, which they aren't. Meanwhile wingnuts like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who has worked tirelessly to kill "Obamacare," is now -- thanks to starkly negative polling -- reduced to insisting that he will protect coverage for prior conditions, which is totally inconsistent with what he has been doing or is likely to do if he wins another term.

In short, these bozos know they, their party and their policies are increasingly disliked by more and more voters. They're in panic mode, with which if you're GOP you'd by now have to be comfortable. Their attack ads are screechier and more unbelievable than ever. And that's a good sign. Because opponents who are fearful are ultimately vulnerable and easier to dispatch, as per the recommendations in "The Art of War."

So, let's keep up the pressure, scaring Repubs with our common sense approach, upbeat attitude, sane policies, and of course our huge armies of door-to-door campaigners, letter-writers and phone bankers.

[cstanleytech]

42. Unfortunately this attitude towards immigrants is not new and its happened before in the US as

well as other countries around the world throughout history and the pattern keeps on repeating especially where the ones in power are afraid of what the people may do to them so they blame the immigrants for the problems their countries are currently dealing with.

[Roy Rolling]

2. The problem with Oligarchs

When countries are exploited by the greedy rich, it leaves millions of ordinary citizens in poverty. So they migrate.

Wouldn't it be better to stop oligarchs so they don't ruin countries and force their citizens to flee?

It really is simple, we just look at the problem entirely bass-ackwards.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

6. It may seem simple, but we seem to suck at imposing regime change.

Our successes in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya don't give me confidence that it will work in Honduras, etc.

[hibbing]

21. We've support brutal dicators in Middle America for decades n/t

[Judi Lynn]

36. Same thing throughout South America and the Caribbean.

The idea that the US should control the governments of other populations is simply undemocratic, and wrong.

The fact the fascist element in this country has brain-washed so many U.S. Americans into believing it is a simple crime.

A little time spent looking for the information left out of US history in US American classrooms will keep anyone busy for a very, very long time. Once the truth is discovered, a person finds it impossible to see things as he/she did as a child. The truth has carefully been deleted regarding US relations toward the hordes of people comprising the Americas and it's essential to discover it to see things in perspective.

So glad to see your post. The right wing fights the truth about US history like the devil.

[alwaysinasnit]

44. Thank you for your post. If you haven't read it already, I would highly recommend a book written

by John Perkins entitled "Confessions of an Economic Hitman." It describes how the US creates client states.

[Judi Lynn]

45. You're so right to recommend that important book. Saw him at a lecture on tv,

learned he has to have bodyguards traveling with him after the book came out.

So much people need to hear, and need to think about, then start doing research to understand what they have missed in their daily lives that made them live in the dark, like mushrooms!

John Perkins is deeply courageous, seeing that he could have continued to "play" for the very dark side as long as he could stand it! He has a conscience that wouldn't let him live without speaking out. So glad he did.

Thank YOU.

[hibbing]

46. Fantastic Book!

I never realized how so many NGOs are just fronts for very nefarious operations.


Peace

[Haggis for Breakfast]

58. Ever heard of the CIA ???

[thbobby]

3. trump is an impotent idiot flaunting his ignorance

Just more dog shit spewing from his disgusting face.

[muntrv]

4. First draft Jr, Ivanka, and Eric.

[getagrip_already]

7. please no.....

He's make them all 5 star generals or admirals.

Because, why not.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

59. "Why not ?"

Because we don't make five-stars anymore.

Eisenhower was the last five-star. It was decided that he would be the last.

[getagrip_already]

71. Is it a law or just a policy decision?

Remember, there are anti-nepotism laws but we still have the kids on payroll.

If it is just policy, he could ignore it. If it's a law, he might not do it right away. He'd make them 4 star generals and call them 5 star. Don't put it past him.

I know, it's just a sick joke, it will never happen, but neither will a draft of his kids.

But remember also, when we did have a draft, rich kids either got deferments or easy peasy postings, like say to the tx air national guard. They didn't see any action unless it was their choice. And to be sure, some did chose that path. While others took the easy way through.

Which do you think the trump kids would take?

[Haggis for Breakfast]

72. THAT is a good question.

I think it was just consensus which became policy. I'm not sure that the DoD has ever codified that but, yeah, great question.

[getagrip_already]

5. Look! Squirrel.....

Pay no attention to the men with the bone saws. Pay attention to WAR!!!!

Is he threatening to invade mexico? So what will taking millions of prisoners accomplish?

[christx30]

74. Well, the military isn't allowed to operate in the US

because of laws. So they'd probably threaten to invade mexico and create some kind of buffer zone. Mexico would be forced to deal with the migrants and turn them around, or accept US troops.
If Trump really wanted to get their attention he'd threaten to freeze remittances from the US to Mexico. Millions of dollars a day heading south.

[getagrip_already]

76. the posse comitatus act.....

Is wat you are thinking of I think. It prevents the military from participating in civilian law enforcement.

It says nothing about repelling a foreign invasion on us soil.

It's purpose is to prevent the gov't from deploying the military to oppress the population.

It was enacted after the civil war to prevent the military from occupying the southern states.

So it would depend on how the use is framed. Also, the law doesn't apply to the marines or navy (or coast guard or space farce).

[Botany]

8. 4 things

This is just a shout out to his racist base.

People from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador are far less likely to be criminals
than American citizens.

Mueller has to be very close and he is scared shitless and wants to change the subject or
he needs to change the subject from Saudi Arabia's murder.

He is batshit crazy.

BTW
Grammar and Trump not so much.

"I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S.....,"

[LuckyLib]

54. "He is batshit crazy." Spoken every day by millions of Americans.

[NCjack]

9. Trump and his buddies must stop encouraging illegal immigration

by not hiring undocumented labor. Trump can set an example by arresting himself for hiring undocumented. (He claims to be a billionaire, but he wont pay living wages to laborers working on his properties.)

[sinkingfeeling]

63. The caravan is made up of refugees. They're seeking safety.

[NCjack]

68. They appear to be seeking legal entry as refugees. If they present themselves

at the border, USA has duty to exam their case.

[sinkingfeeling]

70. Yes.

[Racerdog1]

10. Time to eliminate

This orange plague. Got to be the dumbest fucking idiot ever.

[Mr.Bill]

11. Notice he says he will take military action

against a situation that is ''Led by Democrats''. Threatening elected officials with a military action for something he is just imagining them doing. These are very carefully scripted words that are just a step away form using the military against his political opposition. And the mouth breathers at his rallies would cheer for it.

[mcp37]

32. This...

is what I was thinking as well. He can scare the base and blame his political opposition all at the same time. It also strikes me as an escalation of his rhetoric. Now he claims the Democratic party are trying to lead an invasion that requires military intervention. That's a few steps away from arrests for party affiliation or just because they suspect something. I actually find this chilling, especially right before midterms that could potentially erode his power base.

GO VOTE!!!

[sinkingfeeling]

12. Oh, for God's sake, these people from the Northern Triangle of Central America are not

criminals! They're the 500,000 people displaced by threats, extortion, forced gang recruitment, and homicide.
75% of Hondurans and 79% of Salvadorans have witnessed a murder or seen a murdered corpse within the last 2 years. 45.4% of Hondurans and 56.2% of Salvadorans entering Mexico have lost a family member to violence in the past 2 years. 32.5% have been exposed to physical violence by a non family member.
They are fleeing unbearable circumstances and the "great, Christian" country is going to use its $790 billion army to refuse them entry.
I hate this idiot administration and about 35% of its citizens!

Source: MSG report, "Forced to flee Central America's Northern Triangle" May 2017

[Haggis for Breakfast]

60. OMG.

I did not realize it was that brutal there.

I knew a man from Rwanda some years ago who witnessed his entire family hacked to death with machetes by government militias. He was just a boy and he had hidden himself in trees. I was shocked at his story. I have never understood how people can do something like this to one another.

Thank you for the information.

[SCVDem]

13. When the rising seas

flood our coastal cities forever, is this how we will treat our fellow Americans?

I believe it is! We won't even allow some of our fellow citizens to vote!

Will states build walls?

[Texin]

14. His kind of people build "gated communities"

The Wall* is just a bigger version of it.

[rurallib]

15. Big time tough talk just in time for the election

Chest thumping at his orangutan best.

Call out to his stupid base to vote.
I am sure we can expect much more of this the next 3 weeks.

[turbinetree]

16. JHC..................take a fucking pill asshole, from the list of psychotropic medications

Take your Pick........................

Drugs Used to Treat Paranoid Disorder

Risperidone (Risperdal®),
Clozapine (Clozaril®),
Quetiapine (Seroquel®),
Ziprasidone (Geodon®)
Olanzapine (Zyprexa®).

Other medications that might be used to treat delusional disorder include tranquilizers and antidepressants.

Most Frequently Prescribed Psychotropic Drugs

Xanax (alprazolam), 48.5 million.
Zoloft (sertraline), 41.4 million.
Celexa (citalopram), 39.4 million.
Prozac (fluoxetine), 28.3 million.
Ativan (lorazepam), 27.9 million.
Desyrel (trazodone HCL), 26.2 million.
Lexapro (escitalopram), 24.9 million.


After all they are advertised on TV to help treat a lot of things..............

[47of74]

23. Yeah if he took one of these maybe he would be a sleepy fuck who is too tired to....

....attend bund meetings and fuck things up.

[turbinetree]

26. He should take two Thorazine's (Chlorpromazine)

Uses
This medication is used to treat certain mental/mood disorders (such as schizophrenia, psychotic disorders, manic phase of bipolar disorder, severe behavioral problems in children). Chlorpromazine helps you to think more clearly, feel less nervous, and take part in everyday life. It can reduce aggressive behavior and the desire to hurt yourself/others. It may also help to decrease hallucinations (hearing/seeing things that are not there). Chlorpromazine is a psychiatric medication that belongs to the class of drugs called phenothiazine antipsychotics. It works by helping to restore the balance of certain natural substances in the brain.

Chlorpromazine is also used to control nausea/vomiting, relieve prolonged hiccups, relieve restlessness/anxiety before surgery, and help treat tetanus.

How to use Thorazine Tablet
Take this medication by mouth with or without food, usually 2-4 times daily or as directed by your doctor.

Dosage is based on your medical condition, age, and response to treatment. In children, the dosage is also based on weight. To reduce your risk of side effects, your doctor may direct you to start this medication at a low dose and gradually increase your dose. Follow your doctor's instructions carefully.

Take this medication regularly to get the most benefit from it. To help you remember, take it at the same times each day.

Although you may notice some medication effects soon after starting, for some conditions, it may take several weeks before you get the full benefit of this drug.

Do not stop taking this medication without consulting your doctor. Some conditions may become worse when this drug is suddenly stopped. Also, you may experience symptoms such as upset stomach, nausea, vomiting, dizziness, and shakiness. To prevent these symptoms while you are stopping treatment with this drug, your doctor may reduce your dose gradually. Consult your doctor or pharmacist for more details. Report any new or worsening symptoms right away.

Tell your doctor if your condition does not improve or if it worsens.

https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-9543/thorazine-oral/details

I like the part that says....................

Do not stop taking this medication without consulting your doctor.


And this "guy" has the nuclear codes......................

[violetpastille]

27. *God's Gift.

It can heal the Republican heart. At least turn it from MAGA to "Fiscal Conservative/Social Liberal".

*OG Kush + Grand Daddy Purple

[turbinetree]

30. Welcome to DU..............

[keithbvadu2]

18. Will Trump's babies in cages be official Prisoners of War?

Will Trump's babies in cages be official Prisoners of War?

Will they be allowed Red Cross visits?

[keithbvadu2]

19. "All Democrats fault for weak laws!"

"All Democrats fault for weak laws!”

Donald has a republican majority in both Houses of Congress.

Why isn't he providing the leadership to change such laws?

[beachbum bob]

22. why not have a revised worker visa program? The issue would not exist if

american businesses and people DID NOT EMPLOYEE ILLEGALS....they come here because there is underground job market that these same businesses and people want to maintain as a way to avoid paying living wages



the discussion has never been about real solutions

[sinkingfeeling]

62. Has nothing to do with jobs. They are refugees fleeing unbearable

conditions. I really first we had a source for 'news' from around the world.

[beachbum bob]

67. overall, "illegal imigrants" are all about jobs...

[sinkingfeeling]

69. They are refugees. Look it up.

[treestar]

73. +1

This is what is really going on and there is no real intent to stop people from coming and taking those jobs. When our ancestors came, they were not burdened with the concept of being here "illegally." Notice they usually claim they are fine with legal immigration. If they were, then they would allow for a visa for these workers.

[cannabis_flower]

24. This is a distraction

I saw on Telemundo that it is 5000 people. That's less than the population of some neighborhoods in Houston. It's a smaller amount than the city of Sealy or Marble Falls. He's trying to distract from the slain Washington Post journalist and the Russia investigation.

[Pachamama]

28. Holy Fuck!!! He actually just stated in CAPS that he wants to close a border?

All jokes aside, this is really serious....

When does he close the border to the North and use the legalization of Marijuana in Canada as the excuse....

How many steps away is the US from being the Republic of Gilead? I am not kidding....

I saw this tweet/statement from the insane Traitor in Chief and it gave me chills....

[dembotoz]

29. Playing to his base..pure gopgotv

Taco trucks manned by ms13 on every corner

[Lobo27]

31. I have a feeling he will try to carry out these threats.

Dreading the day I turn on the TV to hear deadly drone strike. Hundreds killed in Monterrey.

[forgotmylogin]

33. Butchering a journalist though - we need to look into it further and see if it really happened.

Hypocrisy to assume immigrants are all criminals, but if Saudis give a lot of money, they get the kid-glove, red carpet, glowing ball treatment.

[sandensea]

34. Ok. That's it.

It's 25th Amendment time.

[erpowers]

35. Mexico Gets War Saudi Arabia Gets Defenses

So, he can take the country to war against a country because people from that country are seeking a better life in America, but he cannot find it in his heart to condemn the leaders of a country that have been accused of murdering someone because he had the audacity to criticize them. The person that was allegedly murder was a permanent resident of the United States.

[Initech]

39. And somewhere Putin is going:

[True_Blue]

37. Trump is going to start a war to distract

From Khashoggi's horrific murder. Trump definitely wants this to go away and maybe Trump is even involved somehow. Khashoggi was banned by the Saudis for criticizing Trump in December. 2016.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-donald-trump-journalist-banned-for-criticising-us-president-elect-a7456956.html?amp

[Initech]

38. Can someone PLEASE take Fox News away from him?

[winstars]

40. Well, he could do this to stop them...

[Judi Lynn]

41. This evil insanity fits his pattern in every way. He proves daily he has no awareness of anything.

It's so possible he can rally support from his idiot followers to spill all kinds of Latin American blood over his own ignorance.

Too bad his private schools on the way "up" didn't have any way to teach him anything. Some actual intelligence from him would be useful now.

Just like their leader, his hate-fueled league of idiots would crave destroying some human beings just to flaunt some power.

[Initech]

49. It's what happens when you replace tabloid trash TV with facts.

And what happens when you don't read and only think one side is right and everyone else is wrong. I think there needs to be a new logical fallacy created around this phenomenon. I personally call it "Ad Trumpium".

[Judi Lynn]

56. That was the momentum behind the "discovery" of the New World. The "New World" of all places! n/t

[The Wizard]

43. Loudmouth in chief

throwing another temper tantrum to appeal to his bigoted cult. That or he ate the brown acid.

[a la izquierda]

50. I haven't watched the news yet today...

But I’m currently in mexico and curious what the response will be.

[meadowlark5]

51. How is this the democrats fault?

Don't they have the house, the senate and the presidency along with back up from their deplorable Supreme Court judges?

It's his party that won't vote his stupid wall funding through. Dems don't have any power to stop it.

[William Seger]

52. The current administration has a MUCH higher percentage of criminals

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

53. He should ride down there like General Pershing after Pancho Villa

Assuming they can find a horse that can carry his massive girth.

[Cold War Spook]

55. Is he talking about using the regular army?

It sounds like it to me. How would he get around the Posse Comitatus Act?

[Stuart G]

57. STUPID...IS, stupid!!!

...................................IS............................STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dustyscamp]

64. I'm so tired of this evil fuckery that is plaguing this world

[raccoon]

65. The biggest criminals are already here. Nt

[Judi Lynn]

75. "THE TRUTH, IT'S EVEN WORSE IN HONDURAS." MIGRANT CARAVAN FACES MISERY AT MEXICAN BORDER

By Emily Green Oct 21, 2018

TECUN UNAM, Guatemala – It’s just a fifteen-minute walk across the bridge separating Guatemala and Mexico. Now, this concrete stretch has become the scene of an unfolding humanitarian crisis as around 1,500 mostly Honduran migrants — many of them children — are sleeping here amid heaps of garbage with no bathrooms and no water except for what volunteers bring by in small plastic bags.

At the moment, this is the end of the line for nearly half of the estimated 4,000 migrants mostly from Honduras, part of a “caravan” headed ultimately for the U.S. border. Mexican federal police fired tear gas Friday to prevent an onslaught of migrants from storming the gates; now, the crowd has settled down and appear ready to wait here as long as it takes to get across the border.

“The municipality is collapsing because of the quantity of people here,” Gustavo Adolfo Arana Jui with Guatemala’s natural disaster commission, known as Conred, said in a press conference Saturday in Tecun Uman, where the migrants have converged.

In an effort to alleviate the crisis, the Guatemalan government is sending buses to Tecun Uman to offer free transport for Hondurans who want to return home. Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales said on Saturday around 2,000 members of the caravan have gone back to Honduras. Municipal officials in Tecun Unam pegged the number of returnees far lower — at around 1,200.



More:
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/wj99x9/the-truth-its-even-worse-in-honduras-migrant-caravan-faces-misery-at-mexican-border