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Judi Lynn

(160,453 posts)
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:40 PM Nov 2018

U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump's call to arms

Source: Texas Tribune

The Texas Minutemen, according to its president, have 100 volunteers en route to the Rio Grande who want to help stop the migrants, with more likely on the way.

BY MARY LEE GRANT AND NICK MIROFF, THE WASHINGTON POST NOV. 4, 20186 HOURS AGO

FALFURRIAS, Tex. -- Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Donald Trump's warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico. They're packing coolers and tents, oiling rifles and tuning up aerial drones, with plans to form caravans of their own and trail American troops to the border.

"We'll observe and report, and offer aid in any way we can," said Shannon McGauley, a bail bondsman in the Dallas suburbs who is president of the Texas Minutemen. McGauley said he was preparing to head for the Rio Grande in coming days.

"We've proved ourselves before, and we'll prove ourselves again," he said.

McGauley and others have been roused by the president's call to restore order and defend the country against what Trump has called "an invasion," as thousands of Central American migrants advance slowly through southern Mexico toward the U.S. border. Trump has insisted that "unknown Middle Easterners," "very tough fighters," and large numbers of violent criminals are traveling among the women, children and families heading north on foot.

Read more: https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/04/us-militia-groups-head-border-stirred-trumps-call-arms/





Shannon McGauley texas minutemen







Shannon, in the center.

From Shannon's website:



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U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump's call to arms (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2018 OP
Well, at least they'll get out of their parents' basements for awhile The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #1
Vigilantes, just like the KKK lynching parties. Ignorant and prejudiced. Trump's ignoramus army. olegramps Nov 2018 #38
can't fix stupid n/t Guppy Nov 2018 #2
Wasn't that the group that came to watch the border before and 2 of them broke shraby Nov 2018 #3
Oh, god. That was a violent group in Arizona. Monstrous people. I'll see if I can find anything. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2018 #9
Here's some information. You'll remember this gargoyle, right away: Judi Lynn Nov 2018 #12
Thank you. I guess my memory still works good. I thought it was the minute men shraby Nov 2018 #15
This may backfire on Trump. orangecrush Nov 2018 #4
How many EMT's Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #5
Lets hope they are headed south and NOWHERE near their voting booths by Tuesday... FailureToCommunicate Nov 2018 #6
Lets hope someone hacks their GPS and they end up around 69.245542, -141.009438 cstanleytech Nov 2018 #19
I give up...what are those coordinates? FailureToCommunicate Nov 2018 #20
US and Canadian border in Alaska in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. cstanleytech Nov 2018 #21
Ahhh, yes! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2018 #22
Hey alteast they can claim to be guarding our border from illegal immigrants. cstanleytech Nov 2018 #23
Ok. You win the thread. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #31
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #35
They think it's the fucking Alamo all over again! ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #7
Shannon McGauley AZ8theist Nov 2018 #8
Trumpco probably sold them hunting blinds The Mouth Nov 2018 #10
I see a lot of old people will be complaining of kneee and back problems while standing at the kimbutgar Nov 2018 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author DemoTex Nov 2018 #13
If they love playing war so much send them to Afghanistan BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #14
As I like to say, Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #32
I like that! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #33
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #36
Meal Team 6 right there PghTiny Nov 2018 #16
"Meal Team 6 " ikr?!? Dee of these guys are ever in any militia shape uponit7771 Nov 2018 #37
......... This should end well ...... alittlelark Nov 2018 #17
Will Militia Members and the US Military Murder Migrants at the Border? Judi Lynn Nov 2018 #18
Remember when Trump said he believed Putin over US Intel? Rizen Nov 2018 #24
Well, there's a recipe for maximum dumbfuckery! SergeStorms Nov 2018 #25
OH swell. What could possibly go wrong? Soulless, bigots with licensed weapon and the enabling... Guilded Lilly Nov 2018 #26
I'm feeling a blue tarp coming underpants Nov 2018 #27
Ah, Lavoy Finicum, who said 'I Would Rather Die Than Be Caged'. Judi Lynn Nov 2018 #28
"Minutemen." No doubt a nickname given by their girlfriends. Ilsa Nov 2018 #29
I hope these militia clowns get lost and die in a heatstroke induced hallucination. Crowman2009 Nov 2018 #30
Most of them live in their mom's basement uponit7771 Nov 2018 #34
Definitely dressed appropriately for the backcountry. Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #39
Duck Dynasty on steriods Racerdog1 Nov 2018 #40
dangerous busybodies! riversedge Nov 2018 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author DemoTex Nov 2018 #42
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
1. Well, at least they'll get out of their parents' basements for awhile
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:42 PM
Nov 2018

and get a little fresh air and exercise. But they'll be disappointed when they don't find any little brown children to shoot at.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. Wasn't that the group that came to watch the border before and 2 of them broke
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:44 PM
Nov 2018

into a home, killed the people and were looking for drugs?

Seems I remember something like that.

Judi Lynn

(160,453 posts)
9. Oh, god. That was a violent group in Arizona. Monstrous people. I'll see if I can find anything. n/t
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:52 PM
Nov 2018

Judi Lynn

(160,453 posts)
12. Here's some information. You'll remember this gargoyle, right away:
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:01 PM
Nov 2018

Forde gets death sentence in killing of girl, dad
Plotted deadly home invasion
Kim Smith, Arizona Daily Star Feb 22, 2011



Shawna Forde, left, was sentenced to death Tuesday in the killing of an Arivaca girl and her dad. A jury convicted Forde earlier this month on eight counts, including two first-degree murder charges. Forde was seated next to her attorney, Jill Thorpe.
A.E. ARAIZA / ARIZONA DAILY STAR, File


A Washington state resident who once bragged she was going to take her Minutemen group to the “next level” was sentenced to death Tuesday for plotting a deadly home invasion that took the life of a 9-year-old Arivaca girl and her father.

A Pima County jury deliberated four hours over two days before deciding Shawna Forde, 43, should join the other two women on Arizona’s death row.

Forde, 43, was convicted Feb. 14 of first-degree murder in the May 30, 2009, deaths of Raul Junior Flores, 29, and Brisenia Flores, 9, and of attempted first-degree murder in the shooting of Gina Gonzalez, Flores’ wife and Brisenia’s mother.

Jurors were told Forde needed money for her border protection group, Minutemen American Defense, and decided to rob drug smugglers near the border.

More:https://tucson.com/news/local/crime/forde-gets-death-sentence-in-killing-of-girl-dad/article_6283c582-3eb6-11e0-870f-001cc4c03286.html

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Wikipedia:

Murders of Raul and Brisenia Flores

On May 30, 2009, 29-year-old Raul Flores, Jr., and his daughter, 9-year-old Brisenia Ylianna Flores, were murdered at their home in Arivaca, Arizona, during a robbery by Shawna Forde, Jason Eugene Bush, and Albert Gaxiola. Gina Gonzalez, the victims' wife and mother, was wounded but survived the attack after exchanging gunfire with the intruders, wounding Bush. In 2011, all three assailants were convicted of murder. Forde and Bush were sentenced to death, while Gaxiola was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

Attack
Forde and her accomplices gained entry to the Flores home by claiming they were officials looking for fugitives. The suspects had the expectation of finding money and drugs that could be sold to finance Forde's militia group, the "Minutemen American Defense," which patrolled Arizona's border with Mexico. When they found no drugs, the intruders took inexpensive jewelry and fatally shot 29-year-old Raul Flores, Jr., and his daughter, nine-year-old Brisenia Ylianna Flores.[1][2]

Gina Marie Gonzalez, the 31-year-old wife of Raul Flores and the mother of Brisenia, was in the home during the attack and was shot three times.[3] She survived because she pretended to be dead. When the assailants left the home, Gonzalez called 911 emergency services and armed herself with her husband's handgun. While Gonzalez was on the phone, the assailants re-entered the home, and Gonzalez exchanged fire with the attackers, wounding Bush in the leg. The killers then fled. Gonzalez identified two men—one white, the other Mexican—and a white woman as the attackers. Gonzales identified the white man (Bush) as the one who had murdered her daughter and her husband.

An early exchange within the 911 call was recorded as follows:

Gonzalez: They shot me and I pretended like I was dead. My daughter was crying. They shot her, too.

Operator: Are they still there, the people who, that shot them?

Gonzalez: They're coming back in! They're coming back in!

(Gunfire.)[4]

Brisenia was a third-grade student at the Sopori Elementary School in Amado, Arizona, at the time of her death.[5] Another of the Flores's daughters, a 12-year-old, was at her grandmother's home in Sahuarita, Arizona, during the attack.[6]

More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Raul_and_Brisenia_Flores



Raul and Brisenia Flores



Brisenia Flores





Shawna Forde 911 Call



(L-R) Shawna Forde, Jason Bush and Albert
Gaxiola Photos: Pima County Sheriff's Office


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. How many EMT's
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:46 PM
Nov 2018

and Ambulances have been dispatched in order to handle the Heart attack cases? Hope they brought their blue Tarps.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
6. Lets hope they are headed south and NOWHERE near their voting booths by Tuesday...
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:48 PM
Nov 2018

Add yes, their mommies probably packed them some snacks and sunscreen.

Little man/boy losers with flags and guns.

cstanleytech

(26,248 posts)
19. Lets hope someone hacks their GPS and they end up around 69.245542, -141.009438
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:19 PM
Nov 2018

where they hopefully can not hurt anyone including themselves.

cstanleytech

(26,248 posts)
21. US and Canadian border in Alaska in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:32 PM
Nov 2018

Oh and nearest outpost is about 30 miles away over rough terrain and mountains.

cstanleytech

(26,248 posts)
23. Hey alteast they can claim to be guarding our border from illegal immigrants.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:37 PM
Nov 2018

Hopefully though the bears do not eat them as I would not want the poor things to develop a tummyache.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
31. Ok. You win the thread.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:05 AM
Nov 2018

That was brilliant. We should at least - out of courtesy - alert the local wildlife. You know, the moose, the bears, the caribou, BigFoot.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
7. They think it's the fucking Alamo all over again!
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:50 PM
Nov 2018

Well, we know how that turned out!

Stupid redneck racists!

The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
10. Trumpco probably sold them hunting blinds
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:54 PM
Nov 2018

It's like they could get more evil? Take a page from his hero- Andrew Jackson's book.

kimbutgar

(21,060 posts)
11. I see a lot of old people will be complaining of kneee and back problems while standing at the
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 07:57 PM
Nov 2018

Border trying to defend a bs caravan story meant to gin up repuke voters. Just like Ebola in 2014 the caravan will not be mentioned after November 7th on fox.

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BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
14. If they love playing war so much send them to Afghanistan
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:07 PM
Nov 2018

and let them get their jollies out.

The most harm they do is stealing supplies and equipment from the official US troops and Border Patrol already there.

Judi Lynn

(160,453 posts)
18. Will Militia Members and the US Military Murder Migrants at the Border?
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:53 PM
Nov 2018

BY
Robin Marty, Care2
PUBLISHED
November 4, 2018

It will still be weeks at best until the so-called “migrant caravan” — a movement of a few thousand refugees fleeing Central America in hopes of starting new lives in the US — makes it to the border. But it’s already become clear that those seeking safety in the United States may sadly find their lives even more at risk than they ever were in their former homes.

President Donald Trump — intent on turning a flood of refugees into a menacing “invasion” of terrorists, criminals and drug lords seeking to wreak havoc on US citizens — announced his intention to send about 800 military troops to the border in an attempt to stop the asylum seekers from entering the country.

Now he has upgraded those troop numbers, apparently preparing to turn the Mexico border into a militarized zone.

. . .

The AP reports:

The U.S. Border Patrol this week warned local landowners in Texas that it expects ‘possible armed civilians’ to come onto their property because of the caravan. Three activists told The Associated Press that they were going to the border or organizing others, and groups on Facebook have posted dire warnings about the caravan. One said it was ‘imperative that we have boots on the ground.’ Another wrote: “WAR! SECURE THE BORDER NOW!” The militia members said they plan to bring guns and equipment such as bulletproof vests and lend a hand to the Border Patrol to protect against people unlawfully entering the country. “They’re just laughing in our face,” said Shannon McGauley, president of the Texas Minutemen. “It’s a free-for-all in America.”

More:
https://truthout.org/articles/will-militia-members-and-the-us-military-murder-migrants-at-the-border/

Rizen

(708 posts)
24. Remember when Trump said he believed Putin over US Intel?
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 09:55 PM
Nov 2018

Where were they then? Where were they when Trump asked Russia to hack us on national TV? When he fired Comey for investigating him? It seems they don't care about white invaders.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
25. Well, there's a recipe for maximum dumbfuckery!
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 10:43 PM
Nov 2018

Mix a few hundred xenophobic, racist mouth-breathers with shoe sizes larger than their IQs, bump-stocked assault-type weapons, and a mentally deranged "president" egging them on at every turn.........what could go wrong?

What's the over/under on how long it takes one of them to shoot themselves or another militia moron? I'll say 36 hours.

The low IQ gun-crazies in this country just get more stupid by the hour.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
26. OH swell. What could possibly go wrong? Soulless, bigots with licensed weapon and the enabling...
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 10:49 PM
Nov 2018

of a delusional psychopath megalomaniac.
Jaysus.

Judi Lynn

(160,453 posts)
28. Ah, Lavoy Finicum, who said 'I Would Rather Die Than Be Caged'.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:17 PM
Nov 2018




On edit:

Love seeing he was named as a member of the "Y'al Queda!"

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
29. "Minutemen." No doubt a nickname given by their girlfriends.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:26 PM
Nov 2018

I hope border patrol and the army tell them to "go home, we got this."

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
40. Duck Dynasty on steriods
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 04:19 PM
Nov 2018

Most of these turd balls won't make it to the border. The ones that do deserve to fucking die down there.

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