AP NewsAlert: Supreme Court: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 85, Hospitalized After Fracturing 3 Ribs
Source: Bloomberg
Washington (AP) -- Supreme Court: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 85, hospitalized after fracturing 3 ribs in fall at court.
Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-08/ap-newsalert-supreme-court-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-85-hospitalized-after-fracturing-3-ribs-in-fall-at-court
This is all I have just hit AP wire
JudyM
(29,122 posts)Rough way to get out of having to attend todays Kavanaugh investiture. https://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/press/investiture/Chronology_of_the_Investiture_of_Brett_M_Kavanaugh.pdf
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)FBaggins
(26,697 posts)As I understand it, she fell down in her office.
That's not uncommon for a normal 85-year old I suppose. But it's less like the "spars with Chuck Norris each afternoon" that I've been imagining every time I worry about the next two years.
JudyM
(29,122 posts)Agreed, we really really need her to hang in there.
I worry about whether she has a guard stationed to protect her at the hospital...
mucifer
(23,374 posts)BeneathTheMire
(76 posts)Hope she will recover
cstanleytech
(26,080 posts)Bruised ones hurt like hell though which is what I did about 4 months ago so I hate to imagine how much worse cracked ones would hurt.
RegexReader
(416 posts)what you're looking at is impaired breathing due to the pain which leads to pneumonia. Seen it too often in patients over the past 20 something years of being an RN. Also, she delayed treatment which is a big 'OH ****!' moment for me. Pulmonary embolism is also a real possibility.
Hope you're right in this case.
cstanleytech
(26,080 posts)pretty feisty so hopefully she will not have any major complications.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,904 posts)Its the shallow breathing that typically results from broken ribs which makes pneumonia a very real concern, particularly at 85 years old.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)It's why she is falling like that.
I've got almost 10 years on her, and have done heavy squats and dead lifts basically since discharge from the military.
I credit the mobility gained (and muscle kept) by doing that for my long life.
regnaD kciN
(26,035 posts)...but any serious injury at that age may well lead to a state where she's unable to continue to serve on SCOTUS, and 45 gets to replace one of the remaining four left-of-center justices with Kavanaugh 2.0.
Polybius
(15,238 posts)He would nominate Amy Coney Barrett, and say "look, I replaced a woman with a woman". Barrett is insanely anti-abortion.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I hope she can hang in there for two more years, until we take back the Presidency.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,355 posts)Things are bad enough as they are now.
Native
(5,935 posts)Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)GatoGordo
(2,412 posts)There are some aging justices on the court (Ginsburg, 85, Breyer, 80). 85 is pretty old, and despite the desire of many of our "oldsters" to keep on rolling, (as to not gather moss) time and gravity wear them down. The aged take a lot longer to rebound, and are more susceptible to acquired illness and medications cloud the mind more easily.
I wouldn't doubt that some older Republican appointees (Thomas, 70) might consider stepping down during this presidency, as it is safe for them to do so. Unfortunately, we can't expect older Democrat appointees to keep plugging along as they start to fail, just because we want/need them to. (I am considering my own aging mother as I type this). We need Ginsburg on the court, but if she wants to call it quits sooner rather than later, we need to support her.
That being said, the power associated with being a justice must be pretty intoxicating. I am in awe any time a justice steps down.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The power must be intoxicating, as you say. Plus it's a cushy gig...a part time job that pays well, comes with beaucoup benefits, and gives you one of the highest status positions in the country. And you get to affect the country's direction.
Ginsburg said in 2016 or 2017 that she will not step down for at least four years. She was aware that Democrats wanted her to resign during Obama's administration, for fear she might be forced to during a Republican administration.
Her husband is deceased. Going by how a couple of my elderly co-workers felt in the past, they felt that if they retired, they would die. They had nothing else to do, no other interests, no reason for being. So they hung on, falling asleep at their desks, having to have younger co-workers help with their work.
I suspect Ginsburg feels similarly. She has had some serious health problems, incl two bouts of cancer I think, and has come through.
I think there should be a mandatory retirement age for the Justices. When the "life" appointment thing was created, people didn't live that long. I doubt it was foreseen that 90 year olds would still be sitting on the bench, having been there for 50 years.
I just hope she is correct in her confidence she can go the distance.
SCRUBDASHRUB
(7,252 posts)Nothing would surprise me these days..
GentryDixon
(2,944 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Calista241
(5,584 posts)and she'd be able to lock the fuckers up with her testimony.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)onetexan
(12,994 posts)BumRushDaShow
(127,312 posts)IronLionZion
(45,259 posts)Long Live Justice Ginsburg
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)debsy
(527 posts)Justice Ginsberg, please get better soon! We are all sending our best wishes to you!
Bengus81
(6,907 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,781 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)honest.abe
(8,556 posts)If that happens we are truly screwed.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)I bet Thomas retires next year but that's garbage in garbage out. Of course it stings that we'll get 20-30 years of another Thomas but if Trump gets to replace RBG, in addition to the other appointments, it will take a generation or more to recover if we ever do.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,539 posts)Our children are screwed. Their children are screwed. Their children's children are screwed. Their children's children's children are screwed.
Absent a mass die-off of the five conservative justices during a time when there's a Democratic president and Senate, it will take 100 years to undo the damage this sociopath will have done to the SCOTUS, and by extension, the entire judicial system, if it is ever undone.
How did we end up at a point where a racist narcissistic sociopath is remaking the United States in his own image?
That's a rhetorical question.
honest.abe
(8,556 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,132 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,539 posts)He wanted to increase the size of the court to 15 justices. In the end, however, two conservative justices become more progressive and allowed a number of FDR's initiatives--such as the Social Security Act--to withstand challenges.
NYC Liberal
(20,132 posts)FDRs problem was political.
GatoGordo
(2,412 posts)"How did we end up at a point where a racist narcissistic sociopath is remaking the United States in his own image?"
Polybius
(15,238 posts)Get well soon.
malthaussen
(17,066 posts)Well, she is one tough mama, but broken ribs can be very fraught.
I wonder who pushed her.
-- Mal
angrychair
(8,593 posts)At least until the new McConnell rule can take effect. Is that the last year? 6 months?
Vogon_Glory
(9,085 posts)Justice Ginsbergs fall is yet another example of the consequences of your exceedingly poor decision to either vote Green or not at all. Most of the remaining liberal-leaning or swing-vote justices are aged and far more frail than their right-wing peers. That was more than apparent while you were making your decision to act out your pique. Your bad judgement in the 2016 election put Gorsuch on the court. Your poor judgement put Kavenaugh on the bench. Pray to whatever that Justice Ginsberg recovers or isnt forced to retire.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Idiots.
GatoGordo
(2,412 posts)I live in a very middle-of-the-road area of fly-over country. The first district in Minnesota. The Democratic Party here is called the DFL (Democratic-Farmer-Labor). This district should be fully dark blue. Yet it went Republican on Tuesday.
The Democratic Party has abandoned the farmers and rural folk, who are no longer living bucolic life on 160 acres and a driving a 1947 Farmall Super M. They are HUGE operations that require many generations to keep it going and profitable. But the Democratic Party insists that our support should be without question? Because of the name?
Want to blame someone for this Supreme Court shit-storm? Look in the mirror, DNC and "I'm with her" types...
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)what Sandra Day O'Connor did for Shrub and Anthony Kennedy did for Trump, RBG should have done for Obama: retired while we still had the White House and Senate giving him a chance to appoint a younger justice to the court.
That would have kept the seat occupied by a liberal for another generation.
If that had happened we wouldn't be biting our nails right now, worried that we're just an illness away from a third Trump SCOTUS appointment which will make the court solidly fascist for decades to come.
Call it ageist if you wish but that's just how I feel
CK_John
(10,005 posts)It's time to make the big money.
harun
(11,348 posts)Probably costs 10 million to buy a SC Justice's opinion.
Nitram
(22,671 posts)I hope she is ok.
duforsure
(11,882 posts)manicdem
(386 posts)I hope she recovers and continues for a couple more years. But realistically can a 85 year old recover from something like this and how long?
If she's not able to sit on the bench for a while, can the president appoint a replacement?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Polybius
(15,238 posts)There are cameras everywhere.
EarthFirst
(2,877 posts)Its possible she injured herself during a workout; or a simple mishap.
At any rate; heres to a speedy recovery!
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)We need you on the Court, now more than ever.
Our local Noon news stated that RBG was admitted to the hospital "for observation", which means she'll fall into that insurance loophole where she'll be paying out of pocket for some of her stay. Those two little words - "for observation" - make a whole lot of difference. If admitted for treatment, most insurances will cover you completely. Once observation rather than treatment comes in to play, that's the insurance company's out card. Medications given won't be covered along with some services also. I learned that lesson the hard way.
I'm not saying RBG can't afford it, but I hope it's a reminder to keep these insurance companies in-check for how they rip off the insured. IMO, insurance is a nasty business.
Justice4JFK
(21 posts)Ouch! hope she is well on her way to a speedy recovery following a potentially disastrous fall.
Greybnk48
(10,148 posts)Whatever she needs to stay healthy!
Socal31
(2,484 posts)Get well.
Cha
(295,917 posts)wonder how she fell to land on her ribs.
Poor thing