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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:10 PM

FDA plans to impose severe restrictions on e-cigarettes

Source: Washington Post

By Laurie McGinley November 8 at 5:28 PM

The Food and Drug Administration, alarmed by a huge increase in vaping among minors, is expected to impose severe restrictions on the sale of most e-cigarettes products throughout the United States — actions that will likely have a significant impact on an industry that has grown exponentially in recent years with little government oversight.

As soon as next week, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb is expected to announce a ban on the sale of flavored e-cigarettes — the majority of vaping products sold — in tens of thousands of convenience stores and gas stations across the country, according to senior agency officials. According to its officials, the agency will also impose such rules as age-verification requirements for online sales.

The FDA moves are being spurred by preliminary government data showing e-cigarette use rose 77 percent among high schoolers and nearly 50 percent among middle schoolers in 2018. That means 3.5 million children were vaping in early 2018, up 1 million from 2017.

Gottlieb, who once served on the board of a North Carolina vaping company, was at one time viewed as an ally of the e-cigarette industry, and delayed some critical e-cigarette rules shortly after becoming commissioner in 2017. He has also said his first priority is protecting children from tobacco-related disease.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/fda-plans-to-impose-severe-restrictions-on-e-cigarettes/2018/11/08/91253cf2-e3a1-11e8-8f5f-a55347f48762_story.html

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Reply FDA plans to impose severe restrictions on e-cigarettes (Original post)
Eugene Nov 8 OP
JNelson6563 Nov 8 #1
Alt-Orange Nov 8 #2
Metatron Nov 8 #3
Bonhomme Richard Nov 8 #8
MountCleaners Nov 8 #12
JNelson6563 Friday #18
jayfish Friday #20
Jedi Guy Friday #21
The Liberal Lion Nov 8 #4
SoCalNative Nov 8 #9
The Liberal Lion Nov 8 #10
PSPS Nov 8 #5
USALiberal Nov 8 #6
NutmegYankee Nov 8 #7
Catamount Nov 8 #11
sl8 Nov 8 #13
Trenzalore Nov 8 #14
Brainstormy Friday #15
KY_EnviroGuy Friday #16
beachbum bob Friday #17
obamanut2012 Friday #19
jayfish Friday #22

Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:23 PM

1. Vaping has enabled me to quit smoking.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:27 PM

2. Me Too

I puff on the melon flavor now and again, and haven't had a smoke in over 2 years.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:28 PM

3. Me, too

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:07 PM

8. Me too.

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Well over a year without cigarettes after 50 years smoking.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:38 PM

12. Me too!!

I hate the idea of cigarettes now!

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:21 AM

18. Wow! Thanks for weighing in fellow quitters!

Bravo!

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:34 AM

20. Me Too

Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:50 AM - Edit history (1)

25 years smoking and 27 years dipping snuff. Tried everything else to quit other than hypnosis. Haven't even considered smoking or dipping in the last 9 years.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:07 AM

21. Ditto.

Quit almost two years ago.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:40 PM

4. At one point not to long ago I was very involved in the vape community.

I've done reviews of products on youtube, had sponsorships, participated in advocacy and am to this day a very avid vape hobbyist. I stopped doing reviews and participating with the community because the community was so pro-trump. Still is. Many people who I interacted with didn't know a damn thing about trump, nor would they in anyway be persons who would agree with traditional conservative economics, yet they voted for trump because they said he would save vaping from the democrats. I thought the Dems were plain dumb to set out to limit and restrict vaping, but I most certainly wasn't going to vote for a 'pub just because they pretended to be a friend of the vaper. Once again pubs show their true colors and screw over the little guy who they conned so well.

*EDIT
After reading the entire article I see that this flavor ban will not apply to open system vaping. Only closed systems. Well if that's the case I'd be ok with that because honestly the devices mentioned are specifically aimed at smoking cessation. If one is ONLY vaping in order to achieve smoking cessation one only needs then a high resistance, low wattage device and either tobacco or menthol flavored juice to satisfy the nicotine cravings one would have while quitting. If one wants flavor, well switch to a real vape device, LOL

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:23 PM

9. It only applies to flavored pods sold at convenience stores and gas stations

Not to the ones sold at Vape shops.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:53 PM

10. Yeah, saw that.

Added an edit to my post. I'm ok with that.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:50 PM

5. Those "campaign contributions" by tobacco companies pay big dividends!

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:03 PM

6. Good! Teens are starting to vape who would never start smoking. A brand new health issue. nt

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:04 PM

7. Well now, this will over in rural America real well.

Not that I expect the cult to do anything other than blame it on Dems.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:35 PM

11. Me too!

In Australia a couple of years ago, I saw a great documentary about vaping, (at the time it was illegal to purchase ejuice with any nicotine).
But research showed that vaping was 98% safer, with nicotine than cigarette smoking! That research was done by doctors and scientists.
I have always loved smoking, but love my vape even more!
So screw this!

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:52 PM

13. Menthol cigarettes may be on the chopping block, too.

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Gottlieb also is expected to propose banning menthol in regular cigarettes. The agency has been collecting public comments on such a prohibition, which is a major goal of the public health community but is likely to be strongly opposed by the cigarette industry.

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The only exception to the ­flavored-products ban in convenience stores involves menthol ­e-cigarette products. The FDA will continue to permit sales of that flavor because menthol is permitted in regular cigarettes, and the agency doesn’t want to give traditional cigarettes an advantage over e-cigarettes. But the FDA may extend the sales restriction to menthol e-cigarettes if teen vaping doesn’t decline, officials said.

Gottlieb’s actions apply to a specific kind of vaping product that dominates the youth market — e-cigarettes that use prepackaged flavor cartridges, or pods. That includes the wildly popular vaping products by Juul Labs. The restrictions don’t apply to the “open-tank” systems available in vape shops.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:28 PM

14. Smoking amongst teens is down

There hasn't been any long term studies on the effect of vaping vs. cigarettes but most doctors/scientist seem to believe it is safer. We will know one way or the other in 10-15 years.

This being said smoking is down amongst teenagers. If a retailer will sell an underage kid a Juul why wouldn't they sell the same kid a pack of camels. Seems like the penalties are in line. Doing this might cause them to lose some of the gains that we have made in getting teenagers to not smoke.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:27 AM

15. Me too

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:38 AM

16. Vaping transformed from a quit-smoking blessing to a fad.

I've been involved with e-cigarettes since around 2011. Quit a 2-1/2 pack a day habit after 50-years of smoking in just a day or two, but had to order all my parts and liquids out of California. There was almost no vape shops in the US at all back then, just mostly mail order stuff and much of it was not easy to use (basic "510" atomizers). Over the years, I helped probably 200-300 people quit cigarettes, mostly using the simple "eGo" e-cigs.

Amazingly, most grown-ups I helped would instinctively reduce their nicotine content in their liquids after a few weeks and then after a year or two, many would either stop vaping or start using a zero or very low-nicotine liquid - just for pleasure. At that point (say, 2012-2014), with proper assistance e-cigs did the job well, was safe and didn't annoy other people, and was relatively inexpensive.

Then a few years back, China let loose the dogs and started producing high-wattage fog machines instead of just simple units to help stop smoking. People started having batteries explode. I was driving behind a guy with a high-wattage e-cig last year and thought his car was on fire. Now, many restaurants are banning e-cigs for that very reason, as they scare the shit out of people seeing the vape fog in a closed space. People with no damn common sense ruin anything that's good - sooner or later.

China started producing hundreds of various fancy battery boxes (called mods) with elaborate electronics, and the e-liquid tanks are now mostly high-wattage. Therefore, I've seen the industry transformed from something purely to quit smoking into a multi-billion dollar industry that mostly promotes e-cig use as a show-your-ass fad, much like the "who got the biggest gun" fad.

I knew a while back there would be blow-back due to the kids and it's no surprise the FDA came down hard......

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:08 AM

17. whats wrong with democrats using GOP's 2000 florida election playbook?

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:30 AM

19. Good, it's about time

All of you deriding this haven't even read the article. You open vape systems are safe.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:47 AM

22. I've Read the Article and Use An Open System.

Here's the thing though. I can, pretty much, make everything I need to vape from scratch. Current smokers looking for a way to quit? Not so much. We are going to throw the baby out with the bath water based on a feeling and smokers looking for an effective way to quit will suffer the consequences.

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