Trump Mocks France for World War Losses

[Julian Englis]

Source: Bloomverg

The bromance between President Donald Trump and Emmanuel Macron is truly dead.

First thing in the U.S. morning, the U.S. president took another -- even more pointed -- crack at the French leader. He picked up again on the theme of a European army to defend the continent’s interests and took renewed offence. But in a particularly sharp jab, Trump implied that the French needed the U.S. to rescue them from the Germans in both world wars.

Emmanuel Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the U.S., China and Russia. But it was Germany in World Wars One & Two - How did that work out for France? They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along. Pay for NATO or not!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 13, 2018

The tweet comes after Trump spent a weekend in Paris with other world leaders commemorating the 100th anniversary of the end of World War 1. In an earlier tweet, the American president had called Macron’s suggestion “very insulting.”

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-13/trump-renews-attack-on-macron-as-bromance-turns-sours

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This is just wrong on so many levels.

[rzemanfl]

1. Fuck you Drumpf, you Nazi. n/t

[olegramps]

37. He takes delight in the German Nazi's brutal war that lead to millions of deaths.

Just remember that he is the same person who stone a next door child in his playpen. He was unruly in school and even assaulted a teacher which he bragged about. He was such a delinquent that he was sent off to military school. He thrived in that environment in which authority is unquestioned and strived to get in position of leadership. He attempted to push a cadet out the window in a disagreement and was only stopped when others interfered. He is noted for refusing to admit that he was wrong and would cross his arms in defiance. He has no regard for the anyone other than himself. He has little use for women won't submit to his advances. Inherited money was the key to his belligerence. Without it he would have amounted to nothing more than a crass worthless nobody. It isn't a mystery why he appeals to the ignorant and racists. He is one of them. He is uncultured, uncouth and basically a stupid oaf. As my history professor remarked that it was indeed a matter of concern when anyone can be elected to high office.

[47of74]

44. Yeah if it wasn't for his money he'd be in prison right now.

[Botany]

2. Trump Tweet: He has no knowledge of history or skill in diplomacy

Layfayette and the French Navy helped to win the American Revolutionary war and Winston Churchill,
the U.K., Canada, and the eastern front all had a big part in beating Hitler in Europe too.

BTW NATO is not an apartment that owes back rent to Trump.

[dameatball]

31. The majority of German deaths were on the Eastern Front.

[Botany]

35. Yup! And the Soviet Union started fighting the Germans long before we did.

BTW The Maginot line was one of the reasons for France's quick defeat in WW II.

The French generals still wanted to fight WW I so the Germans just went around the
fixed positions in the Maginot line which trapped 1/4 of a million men to certain death
if France hadn't surrendered.

Trump knows nothing about nothing.

[cemaphonic]

57. This is one of those historical myths that stubbornly refuses to die

The Maginot line did exactly what it was designed to do - force the Germans to fight through Belgium, which is where most of the French military and BEF were deployed. The major error the French made was assuming that the attack would come through the flat northern terrain in Flanders, instead of the hilly forests of the Ardennes, which they incorrectly judged as impenetrable terrain for the sort of tank warfare the Germans had used in Poland.

That being said, the French political and military leadership certainly had a ton of problems, including an outdated military doctrine, and political instability. But the idea that the just naively sat behind their Rhine fortresses just isn't true at all.

[cstanleytech]

36. True though without the US getting involved the UK probably would have fallen

to the Nazis.
That aside Trumps comment is part of the reason he is unfit to be President as it's not an appropriate presidential comment at all.

[Mike Rows His Boat]

43. True. Though without US banks, Europe wouldn't have had war with such a mighty German army.

We have a long history of backing heinous dictators and henchmen.

[cstanleytech]

45. True enough but then again almost every country has a history of backing

horrible people as allies at one time or another.

[Mike Rows His Boat]

48. I think that, in modern times, backing Nazis is close to the top of the list.

And like the Saddam story, the US installs (or helps install) a monster, and then the US takes the monster out and claims (on moral grounds) to have saved the (insert nation or continent here) from said monster.

[watoos]

3. Oh boy, it looks like we are back to "Freedom Fries again?"

Why am I picturing the wicked witch of the west melting?

[True Blue American]

4. Trump is such a pathetic

Whiney, narcisstic.P, er,ah little nothing.

[Bengus81]

17. Yeah and Trumpanzies dumping paid for French wine down the drain.........

[Achilleaze]

5. "My family dodged that war, and all succeeding wars." - Dirty Donny* (R)

"So as ancestral heir of a truly ignoble Chickenhawk republican lineage, I have the right in my own ego-corrupted mind to say all kinds of stupid shit about wars and America's loyal allies, since no one in my family (especially ME) has ever served any nation in any way. We've been too damn busy lying and grifting. So everyone should shut up and pretend that I am a republican war genius and that they love me." - Dirty Donny* (R)

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

[FailureToCommunicate]

11. +1

Good tweet-lation. (para-tweet?)

[Duppers]

22. ☝

[flibbitygiblets]

52. since no one in my family (especially ME) has ever served any nation in any way

so much THIS

[The Liberal Lion]

6. Good thing Macron is a mature adult who won't take that bait of trump's childishness

Too bad here we continue to be willing to tolerate this moron trump.

[still_one]

7. There is no mystery in this. He really is doing Putin's bidding. All during his campaign he argued

about abandoning NATO, and I have to wonder if insulting our NATO allies is part of that effort in hopes that they will do just that

He is a very dangerous person

As far as his assessment of France in WWI and WWII, there were quite a few Americans who favored what Hitler was doing:

http://time.com/5414055/american-nazi-sympathy-book/

[SergeStorms]

29. I dare say the Drumpfs were supporters.

Little Donnie's daddy, Fred, if not a Nazi himself was certainly sympathetic to "the cause". It's said that Little Donnie sleeps with (or slept with) a copy of Mein Kampf on his night stand. He kept reading it hoping the outcome will somehow change after all these years, but it never did. Now that he's "president" perhaps he aims at re-writing history?

[still_one]

39. You are right

[Hortensis]

8. Well, at least Trump knows how to deliver a strong,

insulting message. No doubt this will provide great satisfaction and pleasure to followers who imagine this proves he's the strong-man leader they hoped they'd elected.

[Maxheader]

9. Dementia boy is going to get the rest of our trading partners,

to boycott americun products...In essence it is destroying our
own mfg base of the economy here in the usofa and destroying
our overseas options for trading....You read about the big economist
dudes predicting various "bubbles" about to burst...tech, housing etc,.
This one could be devastating...

[highplainsdem]

10. Beyond despicable.

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. He is simply a monster, a truly malevolent human being. The Worst!

[GWC58]

56. NO!! Trump is not even

“a human-fucking being.” 😈👿👺

[jon k]

13. What a Vile, Obscene Excuse for a Man

Keep scarfing Big Macs and DIE SOON, asshole!

[djacq]

14. How hard is it to just banned Trump?

[Fritz Walter]

15. I'm sorry. I wasn't paying attention to cadet bone spurs

I’d much rather watch Casablanca!

[RobinA]

16. When I First Saw This

I thought, Sheesh, this guy really was raised by wolves. Then I realized that was an insult to wolves, who have a very structured social order with enforced behavior norms. Had he been raised by wolves, Trump and his inability to understand proper social behavior would have been kicked out of the pack and left to fend for himself in the deep snow a long time ago.

[world wide wally]

18. A fool and his sanity are soon parted

[sarge43]

19. Let's not assume he ever had any sanity.

I believe the clinical term is Bat Shit Cray.

[LakeSuperiorView]

20. The US's main role in WWI was as a supplier.

Sure, we joined the war two and a half years after it started. By the time we were ready to participate, the war was months from being over. 110,000 US soldiers died, but 45,000 were due to the "Spanish" flu and 30,000 of those were before they even got to France. The French and British armies had Germany on the ropes when US forces swept in and made the outcome obvious. Had the US leadership bothered to learn anything from French and British forces, our casualties would have been lighter. The arrogant US forces tended charge the German trenches over open land with predicable results.

[Auggie]

21. He's pandering to his deplorables

[riversedge]

23. No words anymore for Trump when he mocks our ally, France.

[Javaman]

24. he's just pissed they humiliated him about the rain.

so instead he replies in his usual 3rd grade fashion.

people keep saying that he has no bottom to how low he will go, I disagree, he reached it a long time ago.

the difference is this: we are adults and he continues to act like a spoiled 6 year old.

we have all grown beyond that and have forgotten what it was like to be that age. so when he acts like this, we are all surprised and claim he just went "lower", but the reality is, he hasn't, he's just true to form for a spoiled child.

and as we all know, children can be some of the most cruel people on the earth.

[Pisces]

25. Every day this fool continues to embarrass the US.

[left-of-center2012]

26. Trump is a schoolyard bully

No one likes him ,
so he makes fun of them to make himself feel superior.

[Ferrets are Cool]

27. Let this sink in...The President of the United States is a Nazi. nt

[BeyondGeography]

28. So much for Lafayette I guess

[Firestorm49]

30. Ah, now I get it!

Moe, Larry, Curly, and Chump. The fourth stooge.

[Paladin]

32. Shove a tiny fist-full of Freedom Fries up your ass, trump.

Then eat them.

[Mrs. Overall]

38. +1

Way better than the insult I was going to throw at him.

[C_U_L8R]

33. France sent best wishes

with a get-well card for the orangeturd's bone spur.

[flibbitygiblets]

53. LOL, good one "France"!

[SayItLoud]

34. True story:

Emailed a French friend in Paris asking if France would be so kind as to keep the F'n MORON tRUMP. His reply: " Our President speaks English much better than trump and to be quite frank no one knows what the fuck trump is talking about when he speaks. So, he's coming back to you to either put in jail or vote out of office. Next time please find someone who can communicate in your native language; it will help us and you."

[MineralMan]

40. That is seriously tone-deaf right now.

Really, he's in no position to be doing that at this time. A stupid move on Trump's part.

[lastlib]

41. tRump was having to learn how to lose...

...until Russia and the Electoral College came along...........

FUCK THIS BASTURD!! -- --

HURRY UP, MUELLER!!

[LiberalLovinLug]

49. Not too soon now

It would be better now if Democrats were actually holding power in the House. All kinds of nastiness the House Republicans could do to limit the public release, or stamp with "national security' or some other shenanigans.

[truthisfreedom]

42. Cadet bone spurs spouts again!

More nonsense from the military midget.

[NOMOGOP]

46. Not just anyone can destroy..

a nearly 300 year old ally in 2years!! Must be some kinda record.

[IcyPeas]

47. How many wars have we won lately?

[LudwigPastorius]

50. Trump is a fucking idiot.

He thinks Macron slighted the U.S. (probably got that from watching FOX), and is now angry, and insulting our oldest ally, over something that DIDN'T HAPPEN.

PARIS — For the second time, President Trump has repeated the false claim that French President Emmanuel Macron called for a European army to protect the continent against the United States. Macron never said any such thing.

-snip-

Trump’s interpretation of Macron’s remarks is factually misleading and comes from an interview Macron gave to France’s Europe 1 radio several days before Trump’s arrival. What Macron said has been largely echoed by European Union leaders for months now and in fact mimics the same demand Trump has long made: Europe needs to stop relying on the United States for its own defense.

“I believe in the project of a sovereign Europe. We won’t protect Europe if we don’t decide to have a true European army. In front of Russia, which is at our borders and which can be threatening, I would like to start a security dialogue with Russia, which is a country I respect and which is European,” Macron told Europe 1.


“We have to have a Europe that can defend itself alone — and without only relying on the United States — in a more sovereign manner,” he added.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/11/10/why-trumps-explosive-claim-that-macron-wants-european-military-protect-itself-us-is-so-misleading/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f535bdf07944

[applegrove]

51. It may be as simple as dyslexics are herd avoiding. So they can think

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outside of groupthink back when we all lived in little villages. And they could tear down human created fictions if their village went to crazy in cooperating over human constructed 'reality. Maybe that is the simple reason why Trump hates being in an alliance. Why he wants to tear everything down. It is pure instinct. Only the world and the West was and is working well for people. We believe in people centered banking and trade and publuc education and public healthcare as well as helping the poor and helping people get ahead. But it was not working in the USA republicans, desperately unhappy with their lot, gutted workers incomes as some billionaires in the US did not think they had enough money. They also financially traumatized the public with risky bank regulations. So it stopped working for the little guy. And the West was not working well for misogynists and racists and the intolerant either. Trump is just going on dyslexic instinct to put the brakes on human cooperation in the West. To benefit his coalition of the dispicable few and the many snowed. He's not fixing anything or saving anybody. It is very typical of dyslexics to think of the big picture over hours, days, weeks. To get out of their own ego and think big picture. Not Trump. He is missing that.

[flibbitygiblets]

54. Yeah, or he's just following orders from his boss

At this point I truly believe if Putin told him to put on flowered bloomers and a bonnet and then take a piss on graves at Arlington, he'd do it.

[struggle4progress]

55. Much of the Great War was actually fought in France,

and the country lost over 4% of its whole population to the war

A comparable fraction of the US population at the time would have been something like 4 million --- while the US actually lost less than 125 thousand to the war