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Jose Garcia

(2,588 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:46 AM Nov 2018

Federal prosecutors reviewing altered election documents tied to Florida Democrats

Source: Politico

TALLAHASSEE — The Florida Department of State last week asked federal prosecutors to investigate dates that were changed on official state election documents, the first voting “irregularities” it has flagged in the wake of the 2018 elections.

The concerns, which the department says can be tied to the Florida Democratic Party, center around date changes on forms used to fix vote-by-mail ballots sent with incorrect or missing information. Known as “cure affidavits,” those documents used to fix mail ballots were due no later than 5 p.m. on Nov. 5 — the day before the election. But affidavits released on Tuesday by the DOS show that documents from four different counties said the ballots could be returned by 5 p.m. on Thursday, which is not accurate.

Among those counties is Broward, which emerged as the epicenter of controversy as three statewide races and three local legislative races went into recounts following the Nov. 6 elections. Republicans have pointed to embattled Broward Elections chief Brenda Snipes' record of past election gaffes in arguing that the largely Democratic country is tilted against them — perhaps fraudulently so.

DOS officials have repeatedly told the media that the monitors they sent to Broward County saw no election fraud. It wasn't until Tuesday that the office revealed publicly that it had turned over information to federal prosecutors.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/11/13/federal-prosecutors-reviewing-altered-election-documents-tied-to-florida-democrats-695299

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Federal prosecutors reviewing altered election documents tied to Florida Democrats (Original Post) Jose Garcia Nov 2018 OP
This is total bullshit INdemo Nov 2018 #1
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #4
Couldn't that work as sabotage? LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #2
Sure it is the democrats fault / coming to Fox News tonight Botany Nov 2018 #3
Embarrassing Raven123 Nov 2018 #5
I smell bullshit blue-wave Nov 2018 #6
It is bullshit. louis c Nov 2018 #7
The news stories do not point out 4du Nov 2018 #8
Wasn't she repeatedly elected following her initial appointment? onenote Nov 2018 #9
She has been elected 4 times as a Democrat in heavily Democratic Jose Garcia Nov 2018 #12
I am not from FL, but my impression was 4du Nov 2018 #13
No, it's more complicataed than that. lark Nov 2018 #14
You are mistaken. She was elected and re-elected several times. onenote Nov 2018 #15
Cynic that I am, I read this entire article as saying: KCDebbie Nov 2018 #10
The GOP: Disenfranchising Americans since 1854. Hugin Nov 2018 #11

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
1. This is total bullshit
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:51 AM
Nov 2018

All that has to happen is a Republican forge the dates and wham...its clearly suspicious

Botany

(70,447 posts)
3. Sure it is the democrats fault / coming to Fox News tonight
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:57 AM
Nov 2018

Absentee ballots that were sent out too late so that people could vote and
mail them back in and have that ballot counted.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211416264

NY Times:
People voted for Governor but skipped voting for senator.
Ballot design in Broward County is one possible cause of votes cast for one contest but apparently not another.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/upshot/florida-senate-race-broward-undercount.html

Raven123

(4,792 posts)
5. Embarrassing
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:14 PM
Nov 2018

The article reads like a "Who's on First " comedy. I can't tell who did what. Unfortunately this is not funny. Voters deserve a simple electoral process that is conducted competently. Florida may not be the only state where this is an issue, but sure stands out as an embarrassment to democracy

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
6. I smell bullshit
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:22 PM
Nov 2018

This is the republicons attempting to tie up ballot counting so tight that all the votes never get counted and they "win" through stealing.


Reminds me of a song:


 

4du

(56 posts)
8. The news stories do not point out
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:37 PM
Nov 2018

The person in charge in Broward was appointed by a Republican (Jeb Bush) and could have been removed and replaced at any time over the last 16 years by the governor. During this whole time period, the governor was a Republican, including 8 years under SCOTT, who is now claiming fraud in that office.

 

4du

(56 posts)
13. I am not from FL, but my impression was
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:24 PM
Nov 2018

she did not have to stand for election. I think it was an appointed office that a person held at the pressure of the governor. She could have been removed by Scott whenever he wanted.

lark

(23,065 posts)
14. No, it's more complicataed than that.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:00 PM
Nov 2018

SOE can be removed by the governor for incompetence and Jeb removed the former Broward sOE and appointed Spike, who was a Republican. Since then she's run for office and has won. I'm not sure if SOE is a partisan office, can't remember for sure if D's and R's were behind the names in that race? nd yes, you are right, Scott could have removed her but didn't because she went along with getting the oldest machines and not nearly enough of them, so he liked her suppression efforts.

Besides, emails were accepted from the very red part of FL hit by the hurricane. Emails are NEVER acceptable as voting mechanisms in this state. I understand the polling places weren't there, but why couldn't they be sent absentee ballots like tens of thousands of other folks. What was done is patently illegal;. If the people in Broward County have their votes deleted for a mis=print (sent by state of FL to that district?) then emails definitely need to be disallowed as well.

onenote

(42,598 posts)
15. You are mistaken. She was elected and re-elected several times.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:00 PM
Nov 2018

Most recently in 2016. Here is a link. https://www.browardsoe.org/Election-Information/Election-Results-Copy

If you click on the link for the 2016 General Election and scroll down, you will find that she won reelection in 2016 with almost 97 percent of the vote. She also easily defeated a Democratic primary opponent that year.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
10. Cynic that I am, I read this entire article as saying:
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:54 PM
Nov 2018

Republican operatives found a way to access and altering ballots, all while diverting suspicion to their opponents...

I wonder what page of the Republican Dirty Tricks Book this was taken from?

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