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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:28 PM Nov 2018

Trump Continues to Claim F-35 Jets Are Literally Invisible: 'They're Stealth, You Can't See Them'

Source: Mediate



by Ken Meyer | Nov 15th, 2018, 3:30 pm

-snip-

The president gave a speech from the White House on Thursday in which he spoke about providing support for veterans and military families. But at one point, Trump went on a tangent about his admiration for America’s military aircraft, especially the F-35.

“Just gave out a tremendous order for brand new F-35’s. They are stealth. You can’t see them, other than this, they are easy to beat. I said to one of the pilots, ‘how good are these?’ He said, ‘sir, the problem is you can’t see them when you fight them.’ I said ‘that sounds like a big advantage.’ They said ‘it’s an awfully big advantage.’ Incredible equipment.”


This wouldn’t be the first time Trump has spoken of F-35s as if they cannot be seen with the naked eye.

While F-35s are known to be undetectable by radar and other kinds of sensory equipment, can operate in spaces other fighters cannot, and cost around $100 million per fighter, they are not literally “invisible” as Trump says now and then.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-continues-to-claim-f-35-jets-are-literally-invisible-theyre-stealth-you-cant-see-them/
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Trump Continues to Claim F-35 Jets Are Literally Invisible: 'They're Stealth, You Can't See Them' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
Yes! Racerdog1 Nov 2018 #1
"...and Ivanka can put her hands in front of her face and completely disappear. Wow!" tanyev Nov 2018 #2
We are in Jeopardy! OneBro Nov 2018 #3
Trump has issues with comparisons DFW Nov 2018 #4
And even if the planes were invisible.. luvs2sing Nov 2018 #5
Trump: "No!!! The pilots are surrounded by invisibility, therefore NCjack Nov 2018 #15
"There are no planes showing on radar, Mr. President." Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #55
Trump's handlers are afraid to tell him the only invisible airplane is owned by a woman, RockRaven Nov 2018 #6
👏👏👏 take a bow Rock Raven irisblue Nov 2018 #8
Ahh but would the Lasso work on him? After all wouldnt he have cstanleytech Nov 2018 #45
Perhaps it would merely render him silent... RockRaven Nov 2018 #46
She's going to need more rope. SergeStorms Nov 2018 #50
I've always fantasized about becoming invisible. milestogo Nov 2018 #7
OMFG Mrs. Overall Nov 2018 #9
Sheeeesh, Trump! world wide wally Nov 2018 #21
Trump struggles with object permanence. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #10
I think you're right. It's not uncommon for dementia patients... WePurrsevere Nov 2018 #40
The F-35 Budget Buster. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #11
You just haven't seen them turn on their cloak of invisiblity. Kablooie Nov 2018 #12
Undetectable? Oh, please.... paleotn Nov 2018 #13
Nice rant! I doubt donnie-boy could tell us where he gets his strange facts. Maybe just fux t.v. erronis Nov 2018 #14
Exactly relayerbob Nov 2018 #28
Correct. Same with subs. dameatball Nov 2018 #29
This is a picture of the 'stealth tank' I crewed when I was in the Army: Aristus Nov 2018 #16
And they only cost $100b each! JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #17
A number of years ago HeiressofBickworth Nov 2018 #32
HA! Aristus Nov 2018 #33
I can see it underpants Nov 2018 #52
Hey! You're exposing top secret tech right here on DU!! 7962 Nov 2018 #56
'they're stealth, you can't see them. there's one in the room with us now.' 0rganism Nov 2018 #18
Can you say "fucking idiot"? world wide wally Nov 2018 #19
Such high tech is expensive until it's beaten. JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #20
Well then...Donnie boy you should park one on the WH lawn for your escape. Can we help? Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #22
Idiot. Liar. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #23
Is he Wonder Woman now? Astraea Nov 2018 #24
And Studebaker Hawk was real. bora13 Nov 2018 #25
It helps if Turbineguy Nov 2018 #26
The Idiot has never seen one so it makes sense that they're invisible--to him Hassler Nov 2018 #27
LOL mercuryblues Nov 2018 #30
Might this be the same tehnology he was touting... 3catwoman3 Nov 2018 #31
Invisible airplane keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #34
Sir alert Freethinker65 Nov 2018 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Nov 2018 #36
Only thing invisible is Trump's ethics,empathy,conscience and morality AKing Nov 2018 #37
Well, after all, the Star Trek crew did bring us the transparent aluminum recipe. raging moderate Nov 2018 #38
Whales. LakeSuperiorView Nov 2018 #53
Oh, right. Whales. raging moderate Nov 2018 #57
Well, actually they were Humpback whales, not Right whales, IIRC... LakeSuperiorView Nov 2018 #59
Thank you! Yes, and they were singing. raging moderate Nov 2018 #61
everyone else will use drones & ground/air fired lasers., by the time those dodos are built. Sunlei Nov 2018 #39
Trump's all weather fighter jet delayed by weather --- rain of course? keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #41
Then I hope he enjoyed the Veterans Day Parade of F-35s on Monday! Ilsa Nov 2018 #42
DUzy! underpants Nov 2018 #51
I'm going to sell him a few ... Maine-i-acs Nov 2018 #43
*snort* smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #64
"tremendous order" is an obvious lie. djacq Nov 2018 #44
There's only one thing that's truly invisible to our president. truthisfreedom Nov 2018 #47
Enormous pleasure reading all of the posts on this thread!! We have hostalover Nov 2018 #48
"You can't see them, other than this, they are easy to beat." - Donald generalbetrayus Nov 2018 #49
Think of all the infrastructure, new energy sources, education opportunities, social programs ... marble falls Nov 2018 #54
Hell, they could have given Fathead his military parade! Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #58
He sure is spending taxpayer dollars like a kid in a candy shop. secondwind Nov 2018 #60
I think it's a foregone conclusion that Donnie has a shitty short-term memory Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #62
Cranky old man doesn't know we can google pictures of F-35s apnu Nov 2018 #63

DFW

(54,349 posts)
4. Trump has issues with comparisons
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:37 PM
Nov 2018

Obviously, anyone can see an F-35. It is just very difficult to detect by others when in use.

As opposed to Trump's vanity and his selfishness. They can't be "seen" by anybody, and yet they are instantly detectable by anyone who comes within half a mile of him.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
5. And even if the planes were invisible..
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:37 PM
Nov 2018

The pilots would not be. 😂😂😂

Let that mental image entertain you for a little while. 😁

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
15. Trump: "No!!! The pilots are surrounded by invisibility, therefore
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:23 PM
Nov 2018

they are invisible. What's wrong with you?"

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
55. "There are no planes showing on radar, Mr. President."
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:25 AM
Nov 2018

"But we do see a man and a woman in a seated position travelling at 800 miles an hour."

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
6. Trump's handlers are afraid to tell him the only invisible airplane is owned by a woman,
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:39 PM
Nov 2018

and Princess Diana of Themyscira is not going to share it with The Dotard either. She might let him get up close and personal with the Lasso of Truth though.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
45. Ahh but would the Lasso work on him? After all wouldnt he have
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:35 PM
Nov 2018

to know the difference between a lie and the truth?

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
46. Perhaps it would merely render him silent...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:50 PM
Nov 2018

after all, he seems utterly and completely incapable of speaking the truth. Almost like that is his superpower/meta-ability.

That would still be an improvement for all of us, and as a side benefit cause him unparalleled distress (can you imagine the internal ravings of a muzzled Dotard?)

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
50. She's going to need more rope.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:57 AM
Nov 2018

Her usual lasso isn't nearly long enough to harness Trump's substantial girth, or his unfathomably huge ego. Trump, the super-villain.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
7. I've always fantasized about becoming invisible.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:52 PM
Nov 2018

Then I could walk right up to Trump and write on his face with magic marker, and he wouldn't know who was doing it.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
40. I think you're right. It's not uncommon for dementia patients...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:03 PM
Nov 2018

to have issues with this. I don't remember him having this problem 30 yrs of so ago when in first started seeing him appear on TV talk shows.

Kablooie

(18,626 posts)
12. You just haven't seen them turn on their cloak of invisiblity.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:09 PM
Nov 2018

DARPA has been working closely with J.K.Rowling to implement Harry Potter's cloak of invisiblity on the F-35 jets.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
13. Undetectable? Oh, please....
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:10 PM
Nov 2018

Even journalists can't get this shit right. They are detectable. All aircraft are detectable. Freaking birds are detectable. The issue is the size of their radar signature at specific distances from the radar source.

As for actual "cloaking devices", I think shitler watched the Star Trek movies a few too many times. Just like his followers, the man's stupidity knows no bounds. Yes. I'll say it. 30%+ of the US population are dumber than boxes of rocks and their idol is the moron and chief.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
14. Nice rant! I doubt donnie-boy could tell us where he gets his strange facts. Maybe just fux t.v.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:17 PM
Nov 2018

or beamed into his few neurons.

Now, I doubt the pluto's/russians/chinese have enough mind-beams to affect the 30%+, but they'll follow their leader.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
28. Exactly
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:26 PM
Nov 2018

They are no undetectable, much less invisible, they just have a (greatly) reduced radar signature. Long wavelength radars can spot them quite easily, just have a hard time homing in to vector in a missile

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
16. This is a picture of the 'stealth tank' I crewed when I was in the Army:
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:35 PM
Nov 2018


As dazzling and overwhelming as Emperor Trump's new clothes...

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
32. A number of years ago
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:37 PM
Nov 2018

I went to an air show in Everett, WA. There were many different aircraft, all with signs identifying them and giving information. There was a large open plot of land with a sign saying Stealth Bomber. Totally invisible -- probably because it wasn't actually there. But Trump wouldn't have understood that fine distinction.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
18. 'they're stealth, you can't see them. there's one in the room with us now.'
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:47 PM
Nov 2018

'i stubbed my toe on it this morning. it's the ultimate in toe-disabling weapons technology. put one of these things in the enemy camp, they won't know what hit them, in 24 hours none of them will be able to walk. total victory.'

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
20. Such high tech is expensive until it's beaten.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:49 PM
Nov 2018

In the case of stealth technology, it was compromised during the first Iraq war. The Iraqis quickly realized the planes caused an anomaly when passing cell phone towers. That allowed them to be tracked, and as a result prevented us from using them until all communications were eliminated.

Why do I know more about this than the President of the United States of America?

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
22. Well then...Donnie boy you should park one on the WH lawn for your escape. Can we help?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:12 PM
Nov 2018

That is with your stealth escape into the nearest black hole

bora13

(860 posts)
25. And Studebaker Hawk was real.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:21 PM
Nov 2018

he's just another greasy guy who happened to be born next to the Frozen Beef Pies at BONEY'S MARKET.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
30. LOL
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:28 PM
Nov 2018

If I was ever near him, I could have some fun with that. RUN! RUN! a F-35 is coming right at us. It's gonna crash! RUN!

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
31. Might this be the same tehnology he was touting...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:35 PM
Nov 2018

...for the see-through wall?

(If I bang my head against a see thru wall will it still hurt?)

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
38. Well, after all, the Star Trek crew did bring us the transparent aluminum recipe.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:59 PM
Nov 2018

Remember, during that episode when they traveled back in time to help save the dolphins. Or was it porpoises?

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
57. Oh, right. Whales.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:32 AM
Nov 2018

I got it mixed up with Douglas Adams and his Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy sequel, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
59. Well, actually they were Humpback whales, not Right whales, IIRC...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
Nov 2018
I have been accused of being too literal....

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
61. Thank you! Yes, and they were singing.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:47 AM
Nov 2018

And aliens on another planet loved them and listened for their song. And that was saving the Earth.
In Douglas Robinson's fantasies, the dolphins could hear that some aliens were planning to destroy the Earth to make room for an interstellar highway, and they were trying to warn us with their squeals, and even trying to spell it out with their acrobatics, but we couldn't understand them, so they finally gave up on us and hitched a ride with some other aliens.

I like these fantasies much better than those of Donald Trump and his cohorts.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
39. everyone else will use drones & ground/air fired lasers., by the time those dodos are built.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:01 PM
Nov 2018

2018- China 'drone' fireworks.



2016 US military shows off drone swarm
https://www.popsci.com/pentagon-drone-swarm-autonomous-war-machine



Published on May 25, 2017
The Defense Department successfully demonstrated one of the world’s largest micro-drone swarms at China Lake, Calif., in October




My friend Noah is into the new sport drone racing!


keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
41. Trump's all weather fighter jet delayed by weather --- rain of course?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:03 PM
Nov 2018

all weather fighter jet delayed by weather

irony?

https://sputniknews.com/military/201806071065203231-f35-bad-weather-vulnerabilities/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=sputniknews.com&utm_term=68737&utm_content=2248356


Four F-35 Lightning II fifth-gen fighters, originally expected to arrive at the Royal Air Force Marham airbase in Norfolk on Tuesday, got delayed in South Carolina for a day due to what the defense ministry said were "adverse weather conditions."

British military top brass were peeved over pretext for the delay in receiving their new jets.

"How pathetic," one defense source told The Times. "It is bonkers…embarrassing," another said. "Not sure why weather should delay an all-weather fighter," the source added.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
42. Then I hope he enjoyed the Veterans Day Parade of F-35s on Monday!
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:30 PM
Nov 2018

It was really grand, not seeing them roll down Pennsylvania Ave on Monday during his military parade.

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
43. I'm going to sell him a few ...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:41 PM
Nov 2018

pose as an arms dealer
tell him they're parked out back.
bargain priced, 50 million each.

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
47. There's only one thing that's truly invisible to our president.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:01 AM
Nov 2018

The truth.

Also, he hasn’t seen his wanger in decades.

hostalover

(447 posts)
48. Enormous pleasure reading all of the posts on this thread!! We have
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:23 AM
Nov 2018

some VERY clever and funny people here on DU!

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
49. "You can't see them, other than this, they are easy to beat." - Donald
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:58 AM
Nov 2018

Wait, we're shelling out $100 million dollars per plane for a fighter that is "easy to beat" except for the fact that it is invisible, which it isn't???

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
54. Think of all the infrastructure, new energy sources, education opportunities, social programs ...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:58 AM
Nov 2018

we literaly will not ever see because of this trillion dollar 40 year travesty of a defense industry boon doggle.

I can wait until these invisible planes take on the ISIS and Taliban's nonexistent airforces!

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
58. Hell, they could have given Fathead his military parade!
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:34 AM
Nov 2018

Just have him stand next to an empty street, and tell him the troops are demonstrating the latest in "maximum stealth" mode, which only the US has.

"The troops are saluting you, Mr. President. You may want to salute them back."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
62. I think it's a foregone conclusion that Donnie has a shitty short-term memory
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:52 AM
Nov 2018

and stuff that happened more than 24 hours ago never happened...

apnu

(8,755 posts)
63. Cranky old man doesn't know we can google pictures of F-35s
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 11:01 AM
Nov 2018

If they can be photographed they can be seen.

What a moron Trump is.

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