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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 06:44 PM Nov 2018

Schatz: Dems will nominate a progressive in 2020

Source: The Hill



BY TAL AXELROD - 11/24/18 04:59 PM EST

Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) said a progressive would be nominated as the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee in 2020 but that it would not signify a battle with centrists.




“…we must reject the premise that this is a fight between moderates and progressives. We are going to nominate a progressive,” Schatz said in a lengthy twitter thread.

“…the progressive we nominate should also be capable of getting votes from moderates and even republicans. That wouldn’t make them less progressive, that would make them better,” he added.

Democrats are likely to see a crowded field of candidates that will seek to appeal to the party’s progressive wing after the perception that Hillary Clinton failed to sufficiently do so in 2016.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/418089-schatz-dems-will-nominate-a-progressive-in-2020
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Schatz: Dems will nominate a progressive in 2020 (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
mr. schatz should join the crowd and run. solid. liberal. personable. nt msongs Nov 2018 #1
I would say that much (most) of this 'fight' is nothing but conservative spin pecosbob Nov 2018 #2
No, there are a lot of purist progressives Rizen Nov 2018 #8
I would counter that none of the money behind the 'Problem Solvers' pecosbob Nov 2018 #9
. Squinch Nov 2018 #3
Sorry Brian, we are not. George II Nov 2018 #4
This guy is delusional. mr_liberal Nov 2018 #5
Some have the trait of snatching victory from the jaws of . . . empedocles Nov 2018 #6
Yeah I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I wonder how that would work and OrlandoDem2 Nov 2018 #7
We nominated a progressive in 2016. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #10
Ummm... ZZenith Nov 2018 #11
Ummmm GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #14
A progressive Democrat doesn't give Lloyd Blankfein the time of day. ZZenith Nov 2018 #15
THIS!!! TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #17
But her emails and speeches..... MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #18
As I expected, no policy discussion. Just more talking points from the cheap seats. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #19
Are you intentionally being obtuse? ZZenith Nov 2018 #21
Me? Can you claim one thing about the Democratic Parties goals in 2016, GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #22
Deeds not words. ZZenith Nov 2018 #23
Our candidate in 2016 got creamed in the early 90s trying to create national healthcare GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #24
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #25
Exactly. If people told you in the 1990s that HRC was rejected as insufficiently liberal, StevieM Nov 2018 #12
Just take a look at how most of the public wants the big issues to be Doitnow Nov 2018 #13
Have always thought that Americans DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #16
Dude, or Dudette, that's brilliant. Seriously. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #20
Schatz has an opinion. He knows how Democrats will vote. Isn't that special still_one Nov 2018 #26

Rizen

(703 posts)
8. No, there are a lot of purist progressives
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:22 PM
Nov 2018

Who are useful idiots to Republicans by voting for the green party or not at all then using excuses like "there's no difference between Dems and Republicans, they're both corporate owned", "Hillary rigged the primaries against Bernie," "voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still evil", "I couldn't vote for either side because my conscience" and so on.

pecosbob

(7,502 posts)
9. I would counter that none of the money behind the 'Problem Solvers'
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:35 PM
Nov 2018

or No Labels is from progressive sources but from conservative elements whose goal is to push the Democratic Party platform to the right. Their goal was to elect blue dogs.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/whos-really-leading-the-democratic-rebellion-against-pelosi/

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211469155

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
5. This guy is delusional.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:05 PM
Nov 2018

"…the progressive we nominate should also be capable of getting votes from moderates and even republicans."

OrlandoDem2

(2,064 posts)
7. Yeah I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I wonder how that would work and
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:20 PM
Nov 2018

who such a person would be.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. Ummmm
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 12:45 AM
Nov 2018

Yes. Read our platform. What did you not like.

And BTW. I hate the term progressive. I am a liberal democrat.

Please explain to me what a progressive is versus a traditional liberal democrat.

ZZenith

(4,109 posts)
15. A progressive Democrat doesn't give Lloyd Blankfein the time of day.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 01:34 AM
Nov 2018

A progressive Democrat works to see that such crooks, such purveyors of misery and deprivation are in jail where they belong.

A progressive Democrat does not play footsie with Jamie Dimon or any of the other TARP crooks who drove our economy off the cliff with their insatiable greed and then stood there collecting their government bailouts with a nod and a wink.

A progressive Democrat has the sense to know that you cannot win the votes of people who’ve lost their retirements by accepting exorbitant speaking fees from those who stole them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. As I expected, no policy discussion. Just more talking points from the cheap seats.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:18 PM
Nov 2018

I can read the shit you just posted on any right wing site I could go to. Or anti-Democratic party left wing sights I have looked at.

And a Senator from New York showing interest in an industry that employs hundreds of thousands of her constituents, most of whom vote and donate to the Democratic Party is strange?

And your faux resentment that Hillary did not send people like Jamie Dimon to jail when that was never in her perview or power. Get real. More right wing talking points. Pissed about emails too?

And just curious? Why pick out Jamie Dimon. There were thousands of people that drove us over the economic cliff. Things that make me say huuummm.

I again ask you, what was not progressive(I hate the term, but it seems to be all the rage on DU) about the Democratic message in 2016?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. Me? Can you claim one thing about the Democratic Parties goals in 2016,
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 12:00 AM
Nov 2018

Or today that is not liberal? Or progressive if you prefer that word that carries such a mixed history.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. Our candidate in 2016 got creamed in the early 90s trying to create national healthcare
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 12:15 AM
Nov 2018

Beause she was just the First Lady. And too liberal.

First serious effort ever to provide health care to all Americans.

Remember that? Because I do. There is your deed. Or was that too corporate as well?

You have bought into the 30 years of right wing hate.



Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #24)

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
12. Exactly. If people told you in the 1990s that HRC was rejected as insufficiently liberal,
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:09 PM
Nov 2018

or the chosen one of the establishment, you would have told them they were nuts.

Hillary ran on a solidly liberal platform, after a lifetime of pursuing progressive policies.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
13. Just take a look at how most of the public wants the big issues to be
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:14 PM
Nov 2018

resolved by 70-80% and you can't still believe this is a centrist country. Health care, minimum wage, gun control, voting rights----the list is long. The only reason people say these are wild-eyed and radical ideas is because there are so many of these issues remaining to be solved that anyone proposing them is out of step when they are, in reality ---in step with the majority of the people. Half-way measures will no longer suffice.

Yes, I still hear Bernie talking. Don't you?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Dude, or Dudette, that's brilliant. Seriously.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:35 PM
Nov 2018

My conservative relatives love their government benefits. SS, Medicare, unemployment benefits where needed. Will get pissed it you talk about taking them away. And don’t much care about pot, birth control or to a lesser degree abortion.

But, oh, they are conservative. Call them a liberal and they get pissed. And they are all white. They are convinced they have earned and payed for those benefits. People of color are always suspected of cheating the system. Racism is still our greatest sin and is still tearing the nation apart.

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