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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:11 AM Nov 2018

AP Exclusive: First gene-edited babies claimed in China

Source: Associated Press


By MARILYNN MARCHIONE
today

HONG KONG (AP) — A Chinese researcher claims that he helped make the world’s first genetically edited babies — twin girls born this month whose DNA he said he altered with a powerful new tool capable of rewriting the very blueprint of life.

If true, it would be a profound leap of science and ethics.

A U.S. scientist said he took part in the work in China, but this kind of gene editing is banned in the United States because the DNA changes can pass to future generations and it risks harming other genes.

Many mainstream scientists think it’s too unsafe to try, and some denounced the Chinese report as human experimentation.


Read more: https://www.apnews.com/4997bb7aa36c45449b488e19ac83e86d

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Make 'em sterile. Solves the generational problem...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:16 AM
Nov 2018

but then we're in really strange territory. Also stops the abortion debate, though.

Make no mistake, this research will carry on somewhere, somehow, and we're just going to have to figure out a way to deal with it.

Two-edged sword, this science stuff.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
6. Making them sterile would likely eventually create a subclass of people and it will get violent.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:41 AM
Nov 2018

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Keeping them fertile creates unimaginable genetic problems. It’s just better to not go down this road. We'll end up with a world resembling Deadpool.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
10. OK, I should have added the sarcasm thingy, and...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:46 AM
Nov 2018

if we do go down this road, I have little doubt that someone will want to engineer worker drones, super soldiers, and other specific humanoids. And what we will do to our animals will be even more cringe worthy.

Science fiction has been talking about this sort of stuff for years. It never ends well.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
2. Sadly, only future generations will be able to determine with any certainty
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:17 AM
Nov 2018

whether this doctor was a visionary, an idiot, or a genocidal monster...

But hey, maybe we'll get some real-life X-Men out of this!

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. Recommend seeing the movie Gattica
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:30 AM
Nov 2018

Brave New World

In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
5. The US should use the technology to secretly raise a clone army.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:37 AM
Nov 2018

That can be used around 20 years later if needed. Or does it make more sense to use Droids?

BlueInRedHell

(100 posts)
12. That was written in sarcasm, right? I can't imagine many things more terrifying than
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:57 PM
Nov 2018

a cloned 'human' army that would have zero compunction about being set on the American people.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
15. Trump would love to have Jar Jar Binks as Sec of Defense.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:00 AM
Nov 2018

Me am rugor to serven yous agenda mistah president

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
7. The entire next generation of China will be "gene-edited"
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:43 AM
Nov 2018

Due to all the toxins they're pouring into the air and water

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
8. This reminds me of the claims that human clones
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:07 AM
Nov 2018

have been produced/created, whatever word should be used. Again, zero proof it's happened.

Mosby

(16,295 posts)
9. They already used crispr on beagles
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:24 AM
Nov 2018

To make them super muscular.

The technology works, and it's going to change everything.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
11. Interesting females were created with said procedure
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 02:06 PM
Nov 2018

Considering except for India, China trails the world in males:females ratio

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
13. I'm going to say what everyone here is thinking
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:29 AM
Nov 2018

"Can we edit out any proclivities toward Republicanism?"

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
14. Interesting medical ethics problem
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:46 AM
Nov 2018

To me, it's a more advanced form of embryonic selection, something that has been done since 2009 when a couple in Britain had multiple embryos fertilized and selected the one missing a particularly aggressive breast cancer gene that was prevalent in the mothers side of the family https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/jan/10/pgd-baby-debate-breast-cancer . Who knows, with climate change it might become necessary to alter the human species to better adapt to the changing planet.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
16. This could change the Olympics: super gymnasts, divers, weight-lifters, ping-pong players, etc.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:03 AM
Nov 2018

And ethics be damned. Look at all these medals!

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