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Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:37 PM Nov 2018

White House prevents Gina Haspel from briefing Senate on Khashoggi murder

Source: Guardian

The White House is preventing the CIA director, Gina Haspel, or any other intelligence official from briefing the Senate on the murder of Saudi dissident and Washington Post columnist, Jamal Khashoggi.

The secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, and the defence secretary, James Mattis, are due to give a briefing on US relations with Saudi Arabia to the entire Senate behind closed doors on Wednesday, ahead of a vote that could cut off US support for Riyadh’s military campaign in Yemen.

On a national security issue of such importance, it would be customary for a senior intelligence official to take part. On this occasion, the absence of the intelligence community is all the more glaring, as Haspel travelled to Istanbul to hear audio tapes of Khashoggi’s murder provided by Turkish intelligence, and then briefed Donald Trump.

Officials made it clear that the decision for Haspel not to appear in front of the committee came from the White House.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/27/jamal-khashoggi-murder-senate-briefing-saudi-arabia-gina-haspel-white-house



Constant coverups, misinformation, and lies.

I cannot wait until he is out of office.
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White House prevents Gina Haspel from briefing Senate on Khashoggi murder (Original Post) Equinox Moon Nov 2018 OP
"a vote that could cut off US support for Riyadh's military campaign in Yemen" Martin Eden Nov 2018 #1
So corrupt. I bet he'll fire her now SummerSnow Nov 2018 #2
Subpoena her and tell the WH to F-off hlthe2b Nov 2018 #3
House and Senate still in Republican hands, so that ain't happening. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #14
Well aware, but Lindsey claims he wants the facts then f'ing subpoena her hlthe2b Nov 2018 #18
Ha ha ha... Good one Lindsey! dchill Nov 2018 #35
LINDSEY is all hat and no cattle. riversedge Nov 2018 #37
BTW--I read someplace that Lindsey was in Mississippi with Trump at the Rally last night... riversedge Nov 2018 #38
So ask the Canadians zipplewrath Nov 2018 #4
Panic in the ranks. Time for someone (Gina) to fall upon a sword? erronis Nov 2018 #5
Anyone still supporting him is actively committing treason. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #6
Good point. Equinox Moon Nov 2018 #8
How is this not a separation of powers issue? Subpoena her. marble falls Nov 2018 #7
You think the repubicans are going to subpoena her? onenote Nov 2018 #22
Do you think Mueller has not been fired in spite there being no Republicans supporting his marble falls Nov 2018 #24
The Republicans that couldn't support a bill to protect Mueller? onenote Nov 2018 #26
New poll shows Republicans want Mueller to continue his probe marble falls Nov 2018 #41
Get back to me when the Republicans authorize that subpoena of Haspel onenote Nov 2018 #42
Democrats should all vote no on any further support of Saudi Arabia until such avebury Nov 2018 #9
Blatant obstruction, now. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2018 #10
Did Pompeo fly 1/2 around the world for a 15 minute meeting w/the Crown Prince just to .... Botany Nov 2018 #11
Kushner is who I want to hear from under oath. marble falls Nov 2018 #25
Time for a public hearing and testimony in front of a House Committee. January is coming quickly! George II Nov 2018 #12
This administration spaws one conspiracy after another. olegramps Nov 2018 #13
I keep telling myself.... Cryptoad Nov 2018 #15
Too many think "It can't happen here." CrispyQ Nov 2018 #16
Pompeo and Mattis atreides1 Nov 2018 #17
Congress should independently invite British and Turkish intelligence over for a briefing SpankMe Nov 2018 #19
+100 Duppers Nov 2018 #31
The frikking republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is covering up MURDER Achilleaze Nov 2018 #20
Tigeram Tiger58 Nov 2018 #21
Everyday I am shocked and angry. Make it stop. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2018 #23
When will this criminality end!!! Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #27
Question: if after the new Congress is sworn in, & Schiff sends her a subpoena, is there any way RockRaven Nov 2018 #28
Add murderer to his resume along with thief, fraud, embezzler, liar and asshole world wide wally Nov 2018 #29
Let me add more, please. lark Nov 2018 #33
I'm not sure this would be the first murder. BadgerMom Nov 2018 #36
Similar thinking here. Also there are questions about at least one Enoki33 Nov 2018 #44
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #30
She can be subpoenaed. Lithos Nov 2018 #32
Where did all these secret rights of the White House come from? Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #34
Officials made it clear that decision for Haspel not to appear in front of the comm. come from WH!! riversedge Nov 2018 #39
... Scurrilous Nov 2018 #40
I'm keeping the faith in our America because ... MFGsunny Nov 2018 #43

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
38. BTW--I read someplace that Lindsey was in Mississippi with Trump at the Rally last night...
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 06:30 PM
Nov 2018

He is buds with Trumpy.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
4. So ask the Canadians
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:43 PM
Nov 2018

Nothing prevents the Senate from requesting a briefing from the Canadians. They might even say yes.

erronis

(15,237 posts)
5. Panic in the ranks. Time for someone (Gina) to fall upon a sword?
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:44 PM
Nov 2018

What rank amateurs are leading the government now. And I emphasize the word "rank".

marble falls

(57,075 posts)
24. Do you think Mueller has not been fired in spite there being no Republicans supporting his
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 04:04 PM
Nov 2018

investigation? Do you think there are no Republicans who want to hear from her, none? Really?

Mueller's still here, and there are plenty of Republicans who would like to hear from CIA.

onenote

(42,692 posts)
26. The Republicans that couldn't support a bill to protect Mueller?
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 04:08 PM
Nov 2018

Pretty much every Democrat supported legislation to protect Mueller. All it would have taken is less than a handful of Republicans. But they couldn't get it to happen.

And they won't subpoena Haspel over the objections of the WH either.

Can you say lapdogs?

marble falls

(57,075 posts)
41. New poll shows Republicans want Mueller to continue his probe
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:16 PM
Nov 2018

New poll shows Republicans want Mueller to continue his probe — but many fear what he might uncover
Mueller has the country's support.
By Cody Fenwick / AlterNet
November 27, 2018, 12:13 PM GMT

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/new-poll-shows-republicans-want-mueller-continue-his-probe-many-fear-what-he-might

After a significant lull in Russia investigations news in the run-up to the 2016 midterm elections, Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe is back in the headlines in a big way.

President Donald Trump clearly feels the pressure of the potential looming indictments hanging over him, and with the newest revelation that Mueller believes that former Trump Campaign Chair Paul Manafort lied and violated the terms of his plea agreement, speculation about potential backroom deals has ramped up.

But while Trump's main insurance policy against the investigation has been a campaign to sow doubt about Mueller's integrity, new polling from Hart Research Associates shows that this plan isn't having the hoped-for effect.

An overwhelming majority of Americans — 76 percent — supports letting Mueller complete the investigation.

"Majorities of Democrats (94%), independents (78%), and Republicans (55%) say that Mueller should be allowed to complete his investigation," the Geoff Garin president of Hart Research said in a press release. (Garin, it should be noted, worked on Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign, though the poll contained a proportionate sample of Democratic and Republican voters.)

Despite majority support for the probe, 78 percent of Republicans nevertheless still said that they believed the probed is biased against Truno, a theme the president has pressed.

"Of special note in this regard is that 81% of all voters, including 62% of Republicans and 60% of those who say the Mueller investigation is biased, say that if the Mueller investigation results in additional criminal indictments of people who were part of the Trump campaign or personally close to President Trump, those indictments should be prosecuted in the courts and should not be dropped or dismissed," Garin writes.

This suggests that, while Trump has been successful to some extent in promoting his perspective on the probe, it's not clear he's actually built a strong base of support for undermining it or for ignoring its conclusions should they be harmful to him. The poll results also show that 82 percent of Republicans, and 90 percent of voters generally, hope that a report from the Mueller probe eventually becomes public — and most don't think Trump should be allowed to block it.

Many Republicans are also concerned about what Mueller's probe might uncover about the president and his allies, suggesting that the pessimistic view that nothing could shake the party's support for Trump is wrong.

"The greatest causes for concern among Republican voters would be if members of the Trump family engaged in illegal activities with the Russians prior to the 2016 campaign (46%) and if Donald Trump tried to obstruct law enforcement officials from investigating Russian interference and potential collusion by the Trump campaign during the 2016 election (45%)," said Garin.

Reflecting on the polling, conservative commentator Jennifer Rubin remarked: "If bipartisan support for Mueller is high now, imagine what it will be if he reveals more compelling evidence of financial wrongdoing, obstruction of justice or coordination with Russia to intervene in the election on Trump’s behalf. The president’s reliance on his Republican base to stick with him no matter what may, in the long run, prove foolish."




Can you say 'informed opinion'?

avebury

(10,952 posts)
9. Democrats should all vote no on any further support of Saudi Arabia until such
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:49 PM
Nov 2018

time as there is full disclosure of the incident. We all know that the refusal of the WH to allow the CIA Director to brief the Senate is, in fact, an admission that case against the Saudi Crown Prince has to be pretty damning.

Botany

(70,489 posts)
11. Did Pompeo fly 1/2 around the world for a 15 minute meeting w/the Crown Prince just to ....
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:58 PM
Nov 2018

... get their cover stories straight? And what was Kushner's role in Khashoggi's murder?

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
13. This administration spaws one conspiracy after another.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:07 PM
Nov 2018

The take over of the House by the Democrats can not happen fast enough. These fascists must be stopped before the destroy the country.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
16. Too many think "It can't happen here."
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:11 PM
Nov 2018

Even as it's happening before our eyes. I have friends who are in denial that the US could ever go fascist.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
17. Pompeo and Mattis
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:13 PM
Nov 2018

What amount of shit one doesn't lick up, the other will!!!

Mattis is in this up to his eyeballs...he has no honor, no integrity, and no loyalty to the United States!!! Like Kelly, Mattis is an ex-marine!!!!

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
19. Congress should independently invite British and Turkish intelligence over for a briefing
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:31 PM
Nov 2018

There's nothing that the WH can do about that and would be a slap in the face to their so-called "leadership".

 

Tiger58

(35 posts)
21. Tigeram
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:44 PM
Nov 2018

Another closed door meeting..Really.!! And he claims his administration {Cult} believes in transparency..

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
28. Question: if after the new Congress is sworn in, & Schiff sends her a subpoena, is there any way
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 04:29 PM
Nov 2018

for Trump to prevent her complying with the subpoena? If she is subpoenaed and wants to comply (to avoid committing a crime herself by refusing), what can Trump do? If he fires her, that just ends his power over her as her supervisor/boss and ends his ability to claim executive privilege.

lark

(23,091 posts)
33. Let me add more, please.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 04:46 PM
Nov 2018

traitor
grifter
rapist
assaulter
racist
misogynist
money launderer
disloyal
stupid
willfully ignorant
narcissistic
demented
would be dictator

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
36. I'm not sure this would be the first murder.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nov 2018

Two (?) of his casino execs died in a helicopter crash before Trump filed bankruptcy but after at least one of them had been called to testify.

There have been ugly rumors about the death of a young girl who had been trafficked.

I don’t wish to engage in spreading conspiracy theories. I hope he is not guilty of anything. But his demonstrated character is such that murder wouldn’t shock me.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
44. Similar thinking here. Also there are questions about at least one
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:44 PM
Nov 2018

Russian so conveniently killed before he was due to testify. Utterly amazing that we are considering the real possibility that the traitor who stole an election could also be a an accomplice to murder.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Where did all these secret rights of the White House come from?
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 05:16 PM
Nov 2018

Since when does the W.H. dictate all the duties of the CIA? I know the President appoints the Director, but I've never heard that hte W.H. directs the CIA on how to do its business. In fact, in years past, the CIA has investigated or kept files on W.H. people, I believe?

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
39. Officials made it clear that decision for Haspel not to appear in front of the comm. come from WH!!
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 06:34 PM
Nov 2018

whow--#trumpCorruption for all to see.


..Officials made it clear that the decision for Haspel not to appear in front of the committee came from the White House.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
43. I'm keeping the faith in our America because ...
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:38 PM
Nov 2018

I believe William Cullen Bryant is right :: "Truth crushed to earth will rise again."

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