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mobeau69

(11,077 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:33 AM Dec 2018

CNN Poll: Approval ratings for Trump, Mueller fall

Source: CNN

As Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election inches closer to the President, approval of Donald Trump's handling of the investigation has fallen, matching its all-time low in CNN polling. The findings, from a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, come as half of Americans say they think it is likely that the Mueller investigation will implicate the president in wrongdoing.

In the new poll, Trump's approval rating for handling the Russia investigation dips to 29%, matching a low previously hit in June of this year.

The survey was conducted from Thursday through Sunday, a time when court filings in cases against Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen revealed the alleged lies Donald Trump's former lawyer and former campaign chairman told either publicly or to the special counsel's investigators.

The dip in Mueller's numbers comes almost entirely among independents.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/11/politics/cnn-poll-trump-mueller-approval-rating/index.html



IMO Ignorance is why the majority of Independents are independent.
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CNN Poll: Approval ratings for Trump, Mueller fall (Original Post) mobeau69 Dec 2018 OP
Why is an approval rating for Mueller even a thing? BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #1
Spot on. Separate the wheat from the chaff. nt mobeau69 Dec 2018 #2
I was wondering this too. mwb970 Dec 2018 #5
The WH chef? Scarsdale Dec 2018 #7
The WH chefs ARE the cooks at McDonald's. Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #18
I agree completely htuttle Dec 2018 #10
PINO Thinks This Is About Angry Dems ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #23
+1000 This. diva77 Dec 2018 #25
Because ... in this new and glorious age of reality teevee shitshowism UpInArms Dec 2018 #11
Perhaps the better "comparison" BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #12
trump/putin been using team limbaugh on 1500 radio stations to attack mueller since he certainot Dec 2018 #14
The media is trying to push a "both sides" horserace narrative Dopers_Greed Dec 2018 #15
Ever see an approval rating for Ken Starr? I never did........ Bengus81 Dec 2018 #16
First thing I thought about too. BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #19
+1 rogue emissary Dec 2018 #22
Never, ever heard of even one instance in which the public was polled on Ken Starr Judi Lynn Dec 2018 #28
I'm ignoring this poll, it's bs. watoos Dec 2018 #3
29%? So now idiocy in America has a number. Snellius Dec 2018 #4
"IMO Ignorance is why the majority of Independents are independent" PatSeg Dec 2018 #6
It has been well documented by political scientists mobeau69 Dec 2018 #8
That makes perfect sense to me PatSeg Dec 2018 #9
Mueller wasn't elected Racerdog1 Dec 2018 #13
Hey CNN how about doing this poll? watoos Dec 2018 #17
dumdum... yes ailsagirl Dec 2018 #20
Independent idiots. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #21
Good point!! ailsagirl Dec 2018 #24
If Mueller ever investigates me I will not approve of him. dameatball Dec 2018 #26
Mueller's not investigating the people who were polled... FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #27
Right. My point is that it doesn't matter. He's doing his job. Polling is not his problem. dameatball Dec 2018 #29
I agree. When I was a candidate for xxqqqzme Dec 2018 #30

BumRushDaShow

(127,302 posts)
1. Why is an approval rating for Mueller even a thing?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:48 AM
Dec 2018


He's not running for office nor is he out in the media giving press conferences or statements. Everything he does is only being learned based on what his team is filing in court (and the outcome of those proceedings) and what the M$M and social media and their pundits are endlessly speculating about, the latter being the primary means for the "lay" person to understand what is going on, despite the fact that the punditry is offering nothing more than opinions .

I think this "Mueller approval rating" stupidity is being used to muddy the waters in order to introduce some sort of nonsensical "balance".

mwb970

(11,299 posts)
5. I was wondering this too.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:20 AM
Dec 2018

What is the importance of a "public approval rating" for someone like Mueller? What is the White House chef's public approval rating? Does anybody know?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
7. The WH chef?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:34 AM
Dec 2018

He comes in a very distant second to the "cooks" at McDonalds. Our current president has taste buds in his arse, along with his brains.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
18. The WH chefs ARE the cooks at McDonald's.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:06 AM
Dec 2018

As well as the fryers at KFC and the bottlers at the Coca-Cola Company.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
10. I agree completely
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:57 AM
Dec 2018

Media always tries to build a narrative, and they love the competitive 'person vs person' ones.

But this isn't about 'Mueller vs Trump' -- though Trump thinks that, and would love for the media to stick with that one.

This is about 'Trump vs The Law and Constitution'. It's not about a popularity contest, or competing TV shows.

ProfessorGAC

(64,420 posts)
23. PINO Thinks This Is About Angry Dems
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:39 PM
Dec 2018

No matter that the dems didn't appoint Mueller, there was a republican former senator as AG, and that congress was controlled before and after by R's.

Trump doesn't even think it's him against Mueller. That's why the "angry dems" mantra. But, like the petulant twit he is, can't help himself but including Mueller in his rants. He's just lashing out at anyone and everything that is making his "glorious" tenure difficult.

Of course, there is this: Mueller is just doing his job. PINO has never done a day of work in his life so he can't possibly grasp the notion of just doing one's job.

UpInArms

(51,252 posts)
11. Because ... in this new and glorious age of reality teevee shitshowism
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:02 AM
Dec 2018

We get to “vote” the “least popular” person off the island

And forever comparism .... do you like raisins better .... or peaches?

BumRushDaShow

(127,302 posts)
12. Perhaps the better "comparison"
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:13 AM
Dec 2018

would be vs Pelosi or Schumer instead of vs Mueller. Mueller is basically just a hired hand who was appointed by someone from this current administration in order to investigate itself.

Seems the "This is an apple" network doesn't quite understand how to compare "apples to apples" and would rather compare "apples to oranges" to fit some bogus narrative, while they accuse their competition of calling an "apple" a "banana in all caps".

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
14. trump/putin been using team limbaugh on 1500 radio stations to attack mueller since he
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:39 AM
Dec 2018

was appointed and they've been attacking the 'deep state' since inauguration.

that crap reeaches 50 mil/week and that increases in 'national emergencies'

the dem party and progressive orgs let those radio stations make this about mueller by ignoring that fact and doing nothing to challenge trump/putins ability to distort the situation on a national scale.

that is why idiot/bothsiders like chris mathews have deep concern about dems going to far and fast vs trump - that exAggerated 40% trump base they worry about is really 10%-15% strong plus a larger secondary and tertiary audience that just need to see some public testimony and protests at those radio stations and the 88 universities that support them

we're letting them make this about mueller and the 'deep state' for a huge captive audience and are letting those radio stations make things much worse than they need to be - they're enabling and intimidating media and politicians on both sides who need to do the right thing and any situations where juries are needed will be obstructed and hung up with the talk radio /fox -polluted dittohead teabaggers who believe that shit because only fox gets any hint of a challenge

Judi Lynn

(160,217 posts)
28. Never, ever heard of even one instance in which the public was polled on Ken Starr
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:18 PM
Dec 2018

during his pathetic investigation of Bill Clinton and White Water, and on, and on, and on, and on.

Who can forget how wild he went when he had Susan McDougall sent "to the big house" in leg irons, and kept in isolation?

Another great triumph in U.S. history.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. I'm ignoring this poll, it's bs.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:13 AM
Dec 2018

For crying out loud how stupid can this poll be? Was it drawn up by Anderson Cooper? Only half of Americans believe that the Mueller investigation will implicate Trump in wrongdoing when the Mueller investigation has already implicated Trump in wrongdoing. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, there's a house on fire and CNN is asking people if they think it's hot inside the house and only half the people answer yes? bs.

This is what I mean by the right wing corporate control of the M$M. The narrative should be when are we going to indict our traitorous president? This fucking poll is going backwards, screw CNN.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
4. 29%? So now idiocy in America has a number.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:16 AM
Dec 2018

No one in their right mind could approve of the way Trump's handling this. He's boxed himself into a corner with only two choices, you're fired or I'm fried. Either way he'll lose.

PatSeg

(46,794 posts)
6. "IMO Ignorance is why the majority of Independents are independent"
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:21 AM
Dec 2018

I think you could be right. "I" for ignorance, as well as Independent. People who can't be bothered to learn about the issues, but often still express an opinion. They proudly and pompously call themselves Independents as if they are above the fray of partisan politics.

mobeau69

(11,077 posts)
8. It has been well documented by political scientists
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:42 AM
Dec 2018

that people who identify themselves as Independent are the least likely to vote and have the least understanding of public policy and it's affect on them.

PatSeg

(46,794 posts)
9. That makes perfect sense to me
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:53 AM
Dec 2018

I've noticed they tend to be rather wishy-washy people, who want to be part of a conversation, that they don't really understand or care about.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
17. Hey CNN how about doing this poll?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:55 AM
Dec 2018

Who would you rather have in a fox hole with you, Trump or Mueller?

dameatball

(7,380 posts)
29. Right. My point is that it doesn't matter. He's doing his job. Polling is not his problem.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:19 PM
Dec 2018

Anyone that cares what the polls say is irrelevant. The law is relevant.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
30. I agree. When I was a candidate for
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:26 PM
Dec 2018

State Assembly, it became abundantly clear that 'Declined to State' (DTS) or 'No Political Preference' (NPP) voters were the least informed, the least engaged, the ones who said 'politics doesn't mean anything in my life.

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