Shutdown impasse: 8 House Republicans break with Trump on shutdown strategy, back Democrats' plan...

[DonViejo]

Source: The Washington Post



Shutdown impasse: 8 House Republicans break with Trump on shutdown strategy, back Democrats’ plan to reopen Treasury without new border wall funds

By Felicia Sonmez and
John Wagner January 9 at 5:30 PM

In the wake of President Trump’s nationally televised plea for his long-promised border wall, both he and Democratic congressional leaders are digging in Wednesday as the partial government shutdown continues with no end in sight.

House Democrats passed a bill that would reopen the Treasury Department and ensure that the Internal Revenue Service would remain funded as tax season kicks off and millions of taxpayers begin to file their returns.

Eight House Republicans voted in favor of the bill, defying the president’s pleas for unity. But the measure has no path to passage, as Trump has said he opposes any legislation that does not include funding for the border wall. The vote comes on the eve of a visit by Trump to the U.S.-Mexico border.

A meeting at the White House between Trump and congressional leaders earlier Wednesday ended quickly after Democratic leaders said they would not fund Trump’s wall. The meeting represented the first face-to-face talks for both sides since last week.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shutdown-impasse-trump-heads-to-the-hill-after-oval-office-address/2019/01/09/27268008-13fe-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html

[ProudMNDemocrat]

1. 8 House Republicans will turn into many......

As they peel off bit by bit. Kevin McCarthy will prove he is as weak a leader than Paul Ryan was.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. I am fervently hoping that more and more Republicans will join this effort.

I don't see any other way to force tRump's hand.

[mastermind]

6. I think tRump his hoping for the same thing

he could care less about the wall, it was just a cambridge analytica talking point to get him elected, they came up with lock her up too. If they pass it veto proof he will just blame the turncoat republicans while he gets off the hook.

[AllyCat]

11. I dunno. I think the Twitler would like his own wall

just like the nutcase he has styled himself after. Hitler got his wall, Twitler wants his.

[ashling]

23. Call for a vote in the Senate

call each of the Rs that have publicly called to end the shutdown

and DEMAND that they leave the R party, change to Ind, and caucus with the Dems. They don't have to vote with the dems on anything else

I know they would be risking committee assignments, et. al., but

if they are being honest about wanting to end the shutdown, this should at least be something they would consider.
otherwise they are just posturing

Schumer will have this voted on in a heartbeat

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

28. Mitch said already no votes will be brought on the wall.

[ashling]

30. My point exactly

if these Rs pull a "Jeffords" and caucus with the Dems, then Rf will lose their majority ....

[Bleacher Creature]

3. This is how it ends. More will certainly follow. NT

[beachbum bob]

4. It's a start but we need to see 10-12 GOP senators stand up...

Until McConnel has pressure on him, nothing happening

[pangaia]

8. Right. I agree...

[Nitram]

5. Unless McConnell wants to own the shutdown, he may have to allow a vote in the Senate.

[beachbum bob]

16. Need 7 or 8 more GOP senators to stand up...until then, no vote

[TexasBushwhacker]

20. 14 GOP went with Democrats for Immigration reform in 2013

McConnell wasn't one of them though.

[Nitram]

22. The votes are there if they just grow a little spine. It is getting intense. We'll see who

blinks first. We Democrats are making a stand, and I don't think we're going to lose this one.

[beachbum bob]

25. need more GOP senate deflections so McConnel has to worry about non-germane admendments

There are ways to bypass McConnel:

More frequently, a Senator forces consideration of a matter over the objection of the Majority leader by making a non-germane amendment (i.e. an amendment to pending legislation which is unrelated to the substance of what is being considered) to any bill being considered on the floor of the Senate.



either way, 13 GOP senators must deflect to hit the 60 vote level for cloture to pass

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

29. +1

[jgmiller]

7. Remember Trump always is the victim

This is probably his way out if he doesn't get Pelosi to back down. Once enough of the GOP crosses over McConnell will be forced to allow a vote. Trump will veto, then they override and he runs around complaining about the swamp over and over again and his supporters still love him.

[truthisfreedom]

9. He started this thing. It's the responsibility of his party to fix it.

They own him and his madness.

[Talitha]

10. His Repug House didn't give him the wall - FOR 2 YEARS!!!

So of course, it's the Dems' fault now... sheesh!

And where's Moscow Mitch?

[klook]

12. #wherearethepesos

Mexico is paying for the wall, or so we heard about 9,999 times.

[duforsure]

13. Many more republicans in Congress will

Be siding with the Democrats after seeing the overwhelming majority of the American people are with the Democrats. Also this is elevating House leader Nancy Pelosi.

[ffr]

14. Extraordinary! Only 8.

[lovemydogs]

15. My jaw hit the floor when my rep broke ranks

Kinzinger is my rep who I felt as totally worthless.
Today he broke ranks and voted with democrats.
I am stunned.
And thank him

[BigmanPigman]

17. I think more will follow since it was 3 yesterday.

It is easier/safer to join a group than just a few members. Strength in numbers.

[watoos]

19. No it was 3 Senators which has increased to 5 or 7

The last House vote 7 Repugs voted aye, we gained 1.
We should start calling this the Trump|McConnell shutdown

[backtoblue]

21. List of eight

Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.), Herrera Beutler (Wash.), Will Hurd (Texas), John Katko (N.Y.), Adam Kinzinger (Ill.), Elise Stefanik (N.Y.), Fred Upton (Mich.) and Greg Walden (Ore.)

Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Ala.), Susan Collins (R-Maine), and Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) have called for the government to be reopened before more work is done on border security.

https://www.axios.com/gop-senators-reopen-government-without-border-deal-collins-murkowski-gardner-ed5870b8-4936-47a7-ad18-72c1ce64c185.html

[DeminPennswoods]

27. Think there might be a couple more PA reps to crack

They saw what happened in Nov, when Dems flipped 5 seats. The map isn't gerry-mandered any longer to maximize GOP advantage.

Fitzpatrick in PA-1 barely squeaked by and is surrounded by Dem-voting Phila and its suburbs.
Mike Kelly also was nearly upset in PA-16 (NW Pa including Erie County)
Scott Perry is another GOP 51% winner in PA-10 (Lancaster-based seat)
Lloyd Smucker in PA-11 is also a possibility. Although he won fairly comfortably, he was sweating it right up until election day.

[Scruffy1]

24. Bunch of aholes trying to save their own skins.

No agreement with Shitler is worth a dam. It would end up like Stalins deal with Hitler. Worthless.

[beachbum bob]

26. pelosi needs 40+ Gop'ers to break to be able to override a trump veto