Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand tells Stephen Colbert she will run for president
Source: Washington Post
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York announced Tuesday that she will run for the Democratic nomination for president in 2o20, in a campaign that is expected to lean heavily on gender issues and imagery.
She told host Stephen Colbert on CBSs Late Show that she believes she has the compassion, the courage and the fearless determination necessary.
The first thing I would do is restore whats been lost: the integrity and the compassion in this country, she said. I would bring people together to start getting things done.
Gillibrand, 52, is most well known for her efforts to combat sexual assault in the military and on college campuses, to repeal the militarys policy of dont ask, dont tell and to make it easier for Capitol Hill staffers who have been sexually harassed or assaulted to report their experiences.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-kirsten-gillibrand-tells-stephen-colbert-she-will-run-for-president/2019/01/15/5de9103e-0eb2-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html
Botany
(70,291 posts)Al Franken
She can go pound sand.
At least, for once, she'd be entertaining to watch.
trueblue2007
(17,138 posts)like the poster above you said. AL FRANKEN.
sandensea
(21,529 posts)She did more harm to her fellow Senate Democrats than Bitchy Mitchy could have ever hoped to accomplish himself.
Personally, I hope she's primaried out of her seat. She can always do ad work for hair dye.
Botany
(70,291 posts)Now that was over the top, nasty, and a thermonuclear snark bomb and all I can
say is, GOOD JOB.
sandensea
(21,529 posts)She earned it.
tonekat
(1,805 posts)No way am I ever voting for her.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)Almost no Democratic voter will be thinking about Al Franken when they choose a Presidential candidate (regardless of whom); they certainly won't be in New York.
trueblue2007
(17,138 posts)Democratic voter will be thinking about Al Franken
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)Your turn. Where's the evidence than any voters care about this?
watoos
(7,142 posts)I watched the Senate confirmation hearing today for Bill Barr and I immediately was reminded how different it was without Franken.
Where the hell would we be had not Franken grilled Sessions which caused him to later recuse himself which gave us Mueller.
Every time they talk about Mueller, remember he is saving our democracy because of Al Franken.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)karynnj
(59,475 posts)In the written interrogatories.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)At least during primary season.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)...who told Franken to step down as well. Your choice.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)But she's no Hubert Humphrey and the DFL is not going to march in lockstep behind her if she does run, especially those of us who lean more to the Farmer-Labor side of the party.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)dflprincess
(28,057 posts)Besides, Amy-kins has had her own issues with poor staff relations (not involving sexual harrassment) so she might be a tad more careful about throwing stones.
I wouldn't support Gillibrand or Klobuchar in the primaries.
BuddhaGirl
(3,586 posts)This is one Dem voter that has NOT forgotten. Neither my husband, another Dem voter. We will be glad to support another candidate on the primary. There will be others more worthy.
She saw Senator Franklin as competition and seized the opportunity to oust him.
Screw her.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)opinion, even in New York.
watoos
(7,142 posts)and in doing so missed the vote to keep sanctions on the Russians. Good thing her vote wasn't needed.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,781 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I'll never forgive her for the loss of my Senator, Al Franken.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Tina Smith is doing a pretty good job but losing Al sucked. And it didn't have to happen. No way in Hell would I support Gillibrand in a primary.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)(Gawd, I'm getting so damn old...)
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I'm glad you're still here.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)there's not a whole lot of the "old gang" left. I don't post as much as I used to but I still come over here often to see what's going on.
BumRushDaShow
(127,310 posts)She does whatever is expedient to benefit her ambition.
shenmue
(38,501 posts)bikeboy
(124 posts)Time to make a call to her office and tell her, you're never going to live down your attack on Al Franken. You will not get my vote, period!
trueblue2007
(17,138 posts)shenmue
(38,501 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)It's not bitter to hold a person accountable for poor judgement and running a perfectly good person out of town. She led the charge, it's her issue to deal with.
How can she stand in front of us and say she'll defend the party and the ideals when she so easily bent toward the GOP scam to oust Franken. Her actions showed a lack of judgement, appropriate loyalty (not blind, GOP loyalty), and disregard for actual justice.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)I hold them accountable for their actions as the sheep they turned out to be, yes. I hold Gillibrand responsible for calling for the sacrifice of a senator who has fought hard for citizens.
There was no need to prove to anyone that the Dems are not like the GOP by jumping to the sacrifice of Franken.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)Her being manipulated by the GOP/Roger Stone was a big red flag.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)The right wing set up a trap and Gillbrand as well as other Democrats walked right into it.
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)FarPoint
(12,209 posts)She is..." No one".
dobleremolque
(479 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Never ever
TexasProgresive
(12,148 posts)I will not support her in the primary.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)I have a feeling Ms. Gillibrand is about to get schooled as to a little thing we call "consequences".
moriah
(8,311 posts)Fortunately I highly doubt this time next year we'll be talking about either of them.
pamdb
(1,331 posts)I will never forgive her for Al Franken who is worth 10 of her, and that's on a bad day.
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)shenmue
(38,501 posts)quitnesset
(56 posts)She must be made to understand there is a price to be paid for taking away one of the most effective Senate voices.
JanetLovesObama
(548 posts)HELL of getting the nod.
tavernier
(12,322 posts)to sabotage other members of her party who might present a challenge to her ambitions.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)The Wizard
(12,482 posts)dem4decades
(11,244 posts)brooklynite
(93,861 posts)Sexual harassment and misconduct should not be allowed by anyone and should not occur anywhere, Sen. Kamala Harris said in a tweet. I believe the best thing for Senator Franken to do is step down.
madaboutharry
(40,152 posts)Harris showed weakness in jumping in on the dump Franken train. Baldwin, Hirono, many others joined in. Amy Klobacher remained loyal to Franken.
I did read that several woman lawmakers regret joining Gillibrands demand for his resignation. They said it was the Me Too wave that got people boxed in. I think it showed a lack of a spine.
Gillibrand lead the charge. She was wrong and there are many who will not forgive her.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)madville
(7,397 posts)Sanders, Booker, Warren, and Harris all disqualified themselves when they betrayed Franken, they all tripped over their spines trying to jump on Gillibrand's bandwagon.
sandensea
(21,529 posts)That you threw one of our most valuable fighters under the bus for this.
Because you - somehow - thought it would boost your chances at the nomination.
Instead, you made yourself arguably into the least-respected high-profile Democrat anywhere.
And 'high-profile', only for now - because before long, no one will so much as remember your name.
Not that anyone can pronounce it now.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,072 posts)... eom.
sandensea
(21,529 posts)In politics as in life, betrayal is bad policy.
Some nerve she has, making this announcement.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)to say that trumpanzees, birthers, and anonymous accusers are more credible than Al Franken.
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,163 posts)Verrrrry short.
DFW
(54,055 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:45 AM - Edit history (1)
"Gillibrand, 52, is most well known for her efforts to combat sexual assault in the military and on college campuses, (etc. etc.)"
Maybe in some circles this is true, but in others, she is most well known for leading the charge to get Al Franken to resign from the Senate, something for which she has not been forgiven by the many who remain sympathetic to Senator Franken.
The cry of "opportunist!" has been leveled at presidential contenders almost since there have been such animals, so she wouldn't be the first to contend with the accusation. However, with a crowded field of qualified (as opposed to the Republican circus of two and six years ago) contenders for the nomination on the Democratic side in 2020, she will need some heavy persuasion to get beyond those who will not forgive the drive to get Franken to resign. Of those who do not forgive, I admit that I am so far a charter member.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)DFW
(54,055 posts)I actually saw her announcement this evening. She had better get a LOT less lame in her public speaking if she wants to run for national office. She supported the stock Democratic core issues (health care, education, ending discrimination, etc.) and, of course, said she was going to bring us together.
"Bring us together?" WOW! What an original idea! I sure wish I had thought of THAT one!
If I hadn't known who she was, I would have thought she was a Republican comedienne making fun of us.
keithbvadu2
(36,367 posts)Crawl back under your rock, Gillibrand.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)No.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)extremely unpopular? She's living in Fantasyland if she thinks she has a prayer of a chance.
cp
(6,543 posts)Not now. Not ever.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)madaboutharry
(40,152 posts)Politics can be unpredictable so I never say never. I will not forgive her for railroading Al Franken out of the Senate before he had the opportunity to defend himself. But there are people who think she did a great thing and some of those people are democrats.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Unless the media seizes on her as being good for ratings, and gives her millions worth of TV coverage in the form of "news". She could get some attention because of her role in the Franken debacle. But more likely that will rule her out even earlier in the process.
We shall see soon. She's on Rachel tomorrow!
dhol82
(9,351 posts)Im sure bynthen we will have a truly sterling person that will be runnng against her!
TJKatd
(73 posts)That she's got a constituency in the primary. Setting aside the shiv she put in Franken for a pretty funny pic, she's got nothing thats distinctive.
aeromanKC
(3,307 posts)AND then I would push for Impeachment!!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)We should not settle for anything less!
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)President - not so much. Unless you want someone who has perfected the non-response response and is adept at avoiding taking a position on anything remotely controversial.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)our democracy had, over a comedy pic and some oversensitive
misunderstanding over a hug or a push off.
She was a bandwagon jumper which disqualifies her.
Draft Al Franken!
Clear his name Kirsten!
PatrickforO
(14,516 posts)Sorry, but I'll not be supporting you.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)And say those three words: Senator Al Franken.
dhol82
(9,351 posts)My only words were:
I will never forgive you for what you did to Al Franken.
Still feel the same.
I will primary her to oblivion.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...say it again.
Washington: 202-224-4451
NYC Office: 212-688-6262
catbyte
(34,170 posts)walkingman
(7,511 posts)catbyte
(34,170 posts)gets the opposition elected.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)Between that and going after Al Franken without a fair investigation and then backstabbing the Clinton's after they had helped her career shows me that there are more trustworthy Democratic candidates.
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)She missed the Senate vote on Russian sanctions today but managed to make it to the Colbert show! Meanwhile, 99 other Senators cast their vote.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=1&vote=00005
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)KMA Kirsten.
dumpTrump Dumptruck
(34 posts)NO!
bubbazero
(296 posts)To do well in the Iowa Caucuses is very difficult--time consuming--and draining. Iowa Dems have traditionally been more populist as opposed to identity politics. Ask Hillary Clinton--Bernie Sanders--or Barack Obama. A sense of fairness has always seemed to permeate Dems in Iowa. None of this bodes well for another candidate who thinks their shit doesn't stink, when in reality it does. Ask Chris Dodd, Joe Biden (2008) John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich etc
The Wizard
(12,482 posts)brooklynite
(93,861 posts)They felt differently.
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)She's the only Senator out of 100 who didn't vote on Russian sanctions yesterday, too busy promoting herself on Colbert.
She's changed policy positions a number of times. It makes her seem disingenuous as a Dem. For example:
In House, she had received a 100% positive rating from the National Rifle Association.
In the House, Gillibrand supported the Bush tax cuts.
Gillibrand voted against raising the US debt ceiling.
In the House, she voted twice against the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.
Those are pretty conservative viewpoints. Then she goes to the Senate says/does whatever position will afford her some popularity.
Bottom line she'll promote Kirsten Gillibrand first and foremost. No Thanks.
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,093 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)there will be about three serious and viable candidates. And about twenty who are selling a book. Lets see when her book comes out.
shanny
(6,709 posts)walkingman
(7,511 posts)Mickju
(1,794 posts)Dem2theMax
(9,595 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)brooklynite
(93,861 posts)It's as if they didn't care about the Franken story...
zentrum
(9,865 posts)....now get announced on Comedy shows. It validates a trivial view of our institutions.
It's the twitterization of concepts and structures that, in fact, contain serious power, for good or ill.
I see it as another example of her calculated opportunism.
BumRushDaShow
(127,310 posts)the general public doesn't bother with the CNNs or MSNBCs or even the Sunday politics gabfest shows on network (you do have a small segment who are hard-core Faux Snooze watchers).
So these politicos are aiming to hit the other 90% of the population who either only cursorily follows politics. I.e., whatever might be mentioned during the 30 minute (20 minutes actual running time when you include commercials) 6:30 pm network news shows... OR who don't follow it at all but may hear about it on stuff like The View or the evening/late night comedy/variety shows like SNL/Maher/Colbert/Fallon/Kimmel/Conan/Noah, etc. .
brooklynite
(93,861 posts)...imost of whom are already supporters, nstead of reaching out to an audience of millions of undecided?
flying_wahini
(6,529 posts)Hoping she doesn't get very far with it.
madville
(7,397 posts)I hope the same happens to the others that betrayed Franken, like Sanders, Warren, Booker and Harris. They all disqualified themselves in my eyes.
revmclaren
(2,488 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:02 PM - Edit history (2)
also called for Franken's resignation, I'll use this analagy...
After Custer led his forces into the disasterous battle at the Little Bighorn, only Custers name has been remembered by the average Joe as being at falt. None of the other soldiers names are even known to the average American.
Leaders always get the most pushback for their actions.
Gillibrand lead the charge against Franken with others (by bad judgement) following her. Combined with her statements against the Clinton's and her disturbing history with big tobacco, I and many others will not vote for her in the primaries, PERIOD!
If by a miracle she gets the nomination, of course I'll vote for her, but the primary is mine to decide.
ONLY! 2019 and beyond.