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BumRushDaShow

(127,310 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:53 PM Jan 2019

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand tells Stephen Colbert she will run for president

Source: Washington Post



Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York announced Tuesday that she will run for the Democratic nomination for president in 2o20, in a campaign that is expected to lean heavily on gender issues and imagery.

She told host Stephen Colbert on CBS’s “Late Show” that she believes she has “the compassion, the courage and the fearless determination” necessary.

“The first thing I would do is restore what’s been lost: the integrity and the compassion in this country,” she said. “I would bring people together to start getting things done.”

Gillibrand, 52, is most well known for her efforts to combat sexual assault in the military and on college campuses, to repeal the military’s policy of “don’t ask, don’t tell” and to make it easier for Capitol Hill staffers who have been sexually harassed or assaulted to report their experiences.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-kirsten-gillibrand-tells-stephen-colbert-she-will-run-for-president/2019/01/15/5de9103e-0eb2-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html

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Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand tells Stephen Colbert she will run for president (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 OP
2 words Botany Jan 2019 #1
+1 sandensea Jan 2019 #4
I AGREE WITH YOUR 5 WORDS and add 3 more words. Senator Al Franken trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #32
Some nerve she has sandensea Jan 2019 #35
"She can always do ad work for hair dye." Botany Jan 2019 #39
Thanks. sandensea Jan 2019 #49
Glad to see others feel the same way tonekat Jan 2019 #73
Yawn..... brooklynite Jan 2019 #57
EVERY Democratic voter will be thinking trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #62
Perhaps the fact that Gillibrand won reelection with 67% of the vote? And no Primary opponent? brooklynite Jan 2019 #65
I care, watoos Jan 2019 #85
I'm sure you do; but -I- was asked to provide evidence, not feelings. brooklynite Jan 2019 #90
It was not just Franken. Pat Leahy also asked similar, but more detailed questions karynnj Jan 2019 #93
We will be in Minnesota. dflprincess Jan 2019 #66
Maybe you'll vote for Klobuchar... brooklynite Jan 2019 #67
Actually Amy kept her mouth shut on the subject dflprincess Jan 2019 #69
So there's a difference between saying it publicly and saying it privately? brooklynite Jan 2019 #71
There is a difference between jumping on the band wagaon & speaking with Al privately. dflprincess Jan 2019 #74
B.S. BuddhaGirl Jan 2019 #92
The Al Franken story will be front and center when she runs. Everyone will know of it and have an wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #102
She went on TV to announce her candidancy, watoos Jan 2019 #87
I've got 2 more words but I'll save them in case I meet her. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2019 #5
I'll do everything I can to make sure she doesn't win the Primary. scarletwoman Jan 2019 #9
Same here. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #20
Ditto nt dflprincess Jan 2019 #70
Hiya! Happy to see you! scarletwoman Jan 2019 #75
And I'm happy to see you! dflprincess Jan 2019 #78
It's been a lot of years, eh? scarletwoman Jan 2019 #80
It has been years dflprincess Jan 2019 #82
or... "True politician" BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #11
As has every politician ever shenmue Jan 2019 #43
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand tells Stephen Colbert she will run for president bikeboy Jan 2019 #15
GOOD FOR YOU, A applaud your strength and I will do it too. My Senator is Wyden. trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #34
Keep being bitter shenmue Jan 2019 #44
First of all, being bitter is my thing. Second, it's not bitter to hold her accountable. bitterross Jan 2019 #51
You're holding the other Democratic Senators accountable, right? brooklynite Jan 2019 #58
They didn't start the charge. bitterross Jan 2019 #61
I see: you'd support someone too dumb to see they were being manipulated? brooklynite Jan 2019 #63
No, I said I wouldn't support Gillibrand. bitterross Jan 2019 #68
I agree dflprincess Jan 2019 #77
Yeah.. amen to that!! She should have considered her hasty move against Franken Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #17
Exactly..... FarPoint Jan 2019 #18
++1 n/t dobleremolque Jan 2019 #30
I'll add Big Tobacco Lawyer & (mood swing) NRA Ratings stuffmatters Jan 2019 #54
Check. dchill Jan 2019 #64
Two more Mira Jan 2019 #98
I will reluctantly vote for Gillibrand if and only if she is the Democratic party nominee TexasProgresive Jan 2019 #2
"If and only if". Took the words right out of my mouth, Texas! flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #23
I'd choose her over Tulsi, but that's about as far as my support goes. moriah Jan 2019 #28
Gillibrand pamdb Jan 2019 #3
Yep. She took the lead in Frankens ouster. No way she gets nom. Funtatlaguy Jan 2019 #29
Have fun being alone shenmue Jan 2019 #45
Al quitnesset Jan 2019 #6
She does not have a snowball's chance in JanetLovesObama Jan 2019 #7
She is most well known for her efforts... tavernier Jan 2019 #8
You have some evidence of that, right? brooklynite Jan 2019 #59
Bada Bing The Wizard Jan 2019 #84
Kamala Harris please. dem4decades Jan 2019 #10
"Sexual harassment and misconduct should not be allowed by anyone and should not occur anywhere,"... brooklynite Jan 2019 #60
The band wagon has always been a trap. madaboutharry Jan 2019 #100
Klobuchar didn't remain loyal...she just said the same things privately. brooklynite Jan 2019 #103
She called on Al Franken to resign as well, nope madville Jan 2019 #112
Thanks for confirming the suspicion many of us Democrats had about you, Ms. Gillibrand: sandensea Jan 2019 #12
Good one... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2019 #36
Thank you. sandensea Jan 2019 #37
Waiting for the usual suspects wellst0nev0ter Jan 2019 #13
lol ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #14
That should be a short campaign. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2019 #16
A rare error in the text DFW Jan 2019 #19
Hear, hear! NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #31
By the way, I am in Dallas for a couple of days DFW Jan 2019 #96
Crawl back under your rock, Gillibrand. keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #21
One word for her Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #22
Has no one told her she is LibDemAlways Jan 2019 #24
Nope cp Jan 2019 #25
Not a chance in HELL she wins the nomination. flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #26
They said that about Trump. madaboutharry Jan 2019 #52
You're right, it could happen. But unlike Trump, I doubt she'll get free publicity and Russian help flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #89
Excellent! I can vote against her in the primary. dhol82 Jan 2019 #27
Who the hell is advising her.... TJKatd Jan 2019 #33
I could support Gillibrand IF she selected Franken for her VP aeromanKC Jan 2019 #38
FrankenKiller? No way. Never ever ever ever. Ever. Never. Nope. It wouldn't be prudent. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #40
There are great Democratic candidates like Amy Klobuchar. democratisphere Jan 2019 #41
Amy might make an excellent Attorney General dflprincess Jan 2019 #72
She killed one of the best hopes SCVDem Jan 2019 #42
Yeah, but...Al Franken. PatrickforO Jan 2019 #46
Will call her office tomorrow. zentrum Jan 2019 #47
When I unsubscribed from her page I was asked why. dhol82 Jan 2019 #50
Still do call her and ... zentrum Jan 2019 #107
Because of Al Franken, I won't support her in the primaries, but would in the General. catbyte Jan 2019 #48
I feel exactly the same. However, I tend to lean a little more left. walkingman Jan 2019 #95
So do I, but I've lived long enough to realize that political "purity" catbyte Jan 2019 #109
I know that's the problem a lot of voters had in the previous elections, not enough imagery. n/t hughee99 Jan 2019 #53
She's flip flopped between left and right positions too many times for me. Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #55
She's an opportunist and puts herself first. bench scientist Jan 2019 #91
Right after AF resigned, she tried to backpeddle. Rustyeye77 Jan 2019 #56
Ah, um, er, uh, dumpTrump Dumptruck Jan 2019 #76
iowa-----just south of MN.------FIRST in the nation caucuses bubbazero Jan 2019 #79
Franken should move to NY and run against her in the primary. (NT) The Wizard Jan 2019 #81
67% of New York voters had the opportunity to vote against her last November... brooklynite Jan 2019 #104
Lots of crappy incumbents get voted back in big deal .Mitch McConnell has been voted voted back in bench scientist Jan 2019 #114
She voted for the Bill today...but somebody else didn't..... brooklynite Jan 2019 #116
Meh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #83
In the Democratic primary Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #86
ugh shanny Jan 2019 #88
I like her but I don't trust her after the Franken incident. I will vote on the Dem nominee..period walkingman Jan 2019 #94
She can go to hell. Mickju Jan 2019 #97
She won't get my vote. nt. Dem2theMax Jan 2019 #99
I'm wondering, since I did not watch, what the audience response was. Clap, hoot, holler ..boo? YOHABLO Jan 2019 #101
Huge applause... brooklynite Jan 2019 #105
Bothers me a lot that such things zentrum Jan 2019 #106
Unfortunately BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #108
Why is it better to make a formal speech before 2,000 people... brooklynite Jan 2019 #115
You love her? Great. Not me. flying_wahini Jan 2019 #110
She will withdraw after Iowa/NH/SC when she doesn't break 5% madville Jan 2019 #111
For those who keep reminding us that other Democrats revmclaren Jan 2019 #113

trueblue2007

(17,138 posts)
32. I AGREE WITH YOUR 5 WORDS and add 3 more words. Senator Al Franken
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jan 2019

like the poster above you said. AL FRANKEN.

sandensea

(21,529 posts)
35. Some nerve she has
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:54 PM
Jan 2019

She did more harm to her fellow Senate Democrats than Bitchy Mitchy could have ever hoped to accomplish himself.

Personally, I hope she's primaried out of her seat. She can always do ad work for hair dye.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
39. "She can always do ad work for hair dye."
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:02 PM
Jan 2019

Now that was over the top, nasty, and a thermonuclear snark bomb and all I can
say is, GOOD JOB.

brooklynite

(93,861 posts)
57. Yawn.....
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:17 PM
Jan 2019

Almost no Democratic voter will be thinking about Al Franken when they choose a Presidential candidate (regardless of whom); they certainly won't be in New York.

brooklynite

(93,861 posts)
65. Perhaps the fact that Gillibrand won reelection with 67% of the vote? And no Primary opponent?
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jan 2019

Your turn. Where's the evidence than any voters care about this?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
85. I care,
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:45 PM
Jan 2019

I watched the Senate confirmation hearing today for Bill Barr and I immediately was reminded how different it was without Franken.

Where the hell would we be had not Franken grilled Sessions which caused him to later recuse himself which gave us Mueller.

Every time they talk about Mueller, remember he is saving our democracy because of Al Franken.

karynnj

(59,475 posts)
93. It was not just Franken. Pat Leahy also asked similar, but more detailed questions
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:55 AM
Jan 2019

In the written interrogatories.

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
69. Actually Amy kept her mouth shut on the subject
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jan 2019

But she's no Hubert Humphrey and the DFL is not going to march in lockstep behind her if she does run, especially those of us who lean more to the Farmer-Labor side of the party.

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
74. There is a difference between jumping on the band wagaon & speaking with Al privately.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jan 2019

Besides, Amy-kins has had her own issues with poor staff relations (not involving sexual harrassment) so she might be a tad more careful about throwing stones.

I wouldn't support Gillibrand or Klobuchar in the primaries.

BuddhaGirl

(3,586 posts)
92. B.S.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:47 AM
Jan 2019

This is one Dem voter that has NOT forgotten. Neither my husband, another Dem voter. We will be glad to support another candidate on the primary. There will be others more worthy.

She saw Senator Franklin as competition and seized the opportunity to oust him.

Screw her.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
102. The Al Franken story will be front and center when she runs. Everyone will know of it and have an
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 07:48 AM
Jan 2019

opinion, even in New York.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
87. She went on TV to announce her candidancy,
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:47 PM
Jan 2019

and in doing so missed the vote to keep sanctions on the Russians. Good thing her vote wasn't needed.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
9. I'll do everything I can to make sure she doesn't win the Primary.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jan 2019

I'll never forgive her for the loss of my Senator, Al Franken.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
20. Same here.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:20 PM
Jan 2019

Tina Smith is doing a pretty good job but losing Al sucked. And it didn't have to happen. No way in Hell would I support Gillibrand in a primary.

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
82. It has been years
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:26 PM
Jan 2019

there's not a whole lot of the "old gang" left. I don't post as much as I used to but I still come over here often to see what's going on.

bikeboy

(124 posts)
15. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand tells Stephen Colbert she will run for president
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jan 2019

Time to make a call to her office and tell her, you're never going to live down your attack on Al Franken. You will not get my vote, period!

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
51. First of all, being bitter is my thing. Second, it's not bitter to hold her accountable.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:53 PM
Jan 2019

It's not bitter to hold a person accountable for poor judgement and running a perfectly good person out of town. She led the charge, it's her issue to deal with.

How can she stand in front of us and say she'll defend the party and the ideals when she so easily bent toward the GOP scam to oust Franken. Her actions showed a lack of judgement, appropriate loyalty (not blind, GOP loyalty), and disregard for actual justice.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
61. They didn't start the charge.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jan 2019

I hold them accountable for their actions as the sheep they turned out to be, yes. I hold Gillibrand responsible for calling for the sacrifice of a senator who has fought hard for citizens.

There was no need to prove to anyone that the Dems are not like the GOP by jumping to the sacrifice of Franken.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
68. No, I said I wouldn't support Gillibrand.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jan 2019

Her being manipulated by the GOP/Roger Stone was a big red flag.

TexasProgresive

(12,148 posts)
2. I will reluctantly vote for Gillibrand if and only if she is the Democratic party nominee
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jan 2019

I will not support her in the primary.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
23. "If and only if". Took the words right out of my mouth, Texas!
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:40 PM
Jan 2019

I have a feeling Ms. Gillibrand is about to get schooled as to a little thing we call "consequences".

moriah

(8,311 posts)
28. I'd choose her over Tulsi, but that's about as far as my support goes.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:45 PM
Jan 2019

Fortunately I highly doubt this time next year we'll be talking about either of them.

quitnesset

(56 posts)
6. Al
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jan 2019

She must be made to understand there is a price to be paid for taking away one of the most effective Senate voices.

tavernier

(12,322 posts)
8. She is most well known for her efforts...
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jan 2019

to sabotage other members of her party who might present a challenge to her ambitions.

brooklynite

(93,861 posts)
60. "Sexual harassment and misconduct should not be allowed by anyone and should not occur anywhere,"...
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jan 2019

“Sexual harassment and misconduct should not be allowed by anyone and should not occur anywhere,” Sen. Kamala Harris said in a tweet. “I believe the best thing for Senator Franken to do is step down.”

madaboutharry

(40,152 posts)
100. The band wagon has always been a trap.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 03:49 AM
Jan 2019

Harris showed weakness in jumping in on the dump Franken train. Baldwin, Hirono, many others joined in. Amy Klobacher remained loyal to Franken.

I did read that several woman lawmakers regret joining Gillibrand’s demand for his resignation. They said it was the “Me Too” wave that got people boxed in. I think it showed a lack of a spine.

Gillibrand lead the charge. She was wrong and there are many who will not forgive her.

madville

(7,397 posts)
112. She called on Al Franken to resign as well, nope
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jan 2019

Sanders, Booker, Warren, and Harris all disqualified themselves when they betrayed Franken, they all tripped over their spines trying to jump on Gillibrand's bandwagon.

sandensea

(21,529 posts)
12. Thanks for confirming the suspicion many of us Democrats had about you, Ms. Gillibrand:
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jan 2019

That you threw one of our most valuable fighters under the bus for this.

Because you - somehow - thought it would boost your chances at the nomination.

Instead, you made yourself arguably into the least-respected high-profile Democrat anywhere.

And 'high-profile', only for now - because before long, no one will so much as remember your name.

Not that anyone can pronounce it now.




 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
13. Waiting for the usual suspects
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:10 PM
Jan 2019

to say that trumpanzees, birthers, and anonymous accusers are more credible than Al Franken.

DFW

(54,055 posts)
19. A rare error in the text
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:19 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:45 AM - Edit history (1)

"Gillibrand, 52, is most well known for her efforts to combat sexual assault in the military and on college campuses, (etc. etc.)"

Maybe in some circles this is true, but in others, she is most well known for leading the charge to get Al Franken to resign from the Senate, something for which she has not been forgiven by the many who remain sympathetic to Senator Franken.

The cry of "opportunist!" has been leveled at presidential contenders almost since there have been such animals, so she wouldn't be the first to contend with the accusation. However, with a crowded field of qualified (as opposed to the Republican circus of two and six years ago) contenders for the nomination on the Democratic side in 2020, she will need some heavy persuasion to get beyond those who will not forgive the drive to get Franken to resign. Of those who do not forgive, I admit that I am so far a charter member.

DFW

(54,055 posts)
96. By the way, I am in Dallas for a couple of days
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:36 AM
Jan 2019

I actually saw her announcement this evening. She had better get a LOT less lame in her public speaking if she wants to run for national office. She supported the stock Democratic core issues (health care, education, ending discrimination, etc.) and, of course, said she was going to bring us together.

"Bring us together?" WOW! What an original idea! I sure wish I had thought of THAT one!

If I hadn't known who she was, I would have thought she was a Republican comedienne making fun of us.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
24. Has no one told her she is
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jan 2019

extremely unpopular? She's living in Fantasyland if she thinks she has a prayer of a chance.

madaboutharry

(40,152 posts)
52. They said that about Trump.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:53 PM
Jan 2019

Politics can be unpredictable so I never say never. I will not forgive her for railroading Al Franken out of the Senate before he had the opportunity to defend himself. But there are people who think she did a great thing and some of those people are democrats.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
89. You're right, it could happen. But unlike Trump, I doubt she'll get free publicity and Russian help
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:53 PM
Jan 2019

Unless the media seizes on her as being good for ratings, and gives her millions worth of TV coverage in the form of "news". She could get some attention because of her role in the Franken debacle. But more likely that will rule her out even earlier in the process.

We shall see soon. She's on Rachel tomorrow!

dhol82

(9,351 posts)
27. Excellent! I can vote against her in the primary.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:43 PM
Jan 2019

I’m sure bynthen we will have a truly sterling person that will be runnng against her!

 

TJKatd

(73 posts)
33. Who the hell is advising her....
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jan 2019

That she's got a constituency in the primary. Setting aside the shiv she put in Franken for a pretty funny pic, she's got nothing thats distinctive.

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
72. Amy might make an excellent Attorney General
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:42 PM
Jan 2019

President - not so much. Unless you want someone who has perfected the non-response response and is adept at avoiding taking a position on anything remotely controversial.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
42. She killed one of the best hopes
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:22 PM
Jan 2019

our democracy had, over a comedy pic and some oversensitive
misunderstanding over a hug or a push off.

She was a bandwagon jumper which disqualifies her.

Draft Al Franken!
Clear his name Kirsten!

dhol82

(9,351 posts)
50. When I unsubscribed from her page I was asked why.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jan 2019

My only words were:
“I will never forgive you for what you did to Al Franken.”
Still feel the same.
I will primary her to oblivion.

catbyte

(34,170 posts)
109. So do I, but I've lived long enough to realize that political "purity"
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:58 AM
Jan 2019

gets the opposition elected.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
55. She's flip flopped between left and right positions too many times for me.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jan 2019

Between that and going after Al Franken without a fair investigation and then backstabbing the Clinton's after they had helped her career shows me that there are more trustworthy Democratic candidates.

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
91. She's an opportunist and puts herself first.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:30 AM
Jan 2019

She missed the Senate vote on Russian sanctions today but managed to make it to the Colbert show! Meanwhile, 99 other Senators cast their vote.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=1&vote=00005

bubbazero

(296 posts)
79. iowa-----just south of MN.------FIRST in the nation caucuses
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:00 PM
Jan 2019

To do well in the Iowa Caucuses is very difficult--time consuming--and draining. Iowa Dems have traditionally been more populist as opposed to identity politics. Ask Hillary Clinton--Bernie Sanders--or Barack Obama. A sense of fairness has always seemed to permeate Dems in Iowa. None of this bodes well for another candidate who thinks their shit doesn't stink, when in reality it does. Ask Chris Dodd, Joe Biden (2008) John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich etc

brooklynite

(93,861 posts)
104. 67% of New York voters had the opportunity to vote against her last November...
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 08:40 AM
Jan 2019

They felt differently.

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
114. Lots of crappy incumbents get voted back in big deal .Mitch McConnell has been voted voted back in
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jan 2019

She's the only Senator out of 100 who didn't vote on Russian sanctions yesterday, too busy promoting herself on Colbert.
She's changed policy positions a number of times. It makes her seem disingenuous as a Dem. For example:
In House, she had received a 100% positive rating from the National Rifle Association.
In the House, Gillibrand supported the Bush tax cuts.
Gillibrand voted against raising the US debt ceiling.
In the House, she voted twice against the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.

Those are pretty conservative viewpoints. Then she goes to the Senate says/does whatever position will afford her some popularity.
Bottom line she'll promote Kirsten Gillibrand first and foremost. No Thanks.

Mr.Bill

(24,104 posts)
86. In the Democratic primary
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:45 PM
Jan 2019

there will be about three serious and viable candidates. And about twenty who are selling a book. Lets see when her book comes out.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
106. Bothers me a lot that such things
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:37 AM
Jan 2019

....now get announced on Comedy shows. It validates a trivial view of our institutions.

It's the twitterization of concepts and structures that, in fact, contain serious power, for good or ill.

I see it as another example of her calculated opportunism.

BumRushDaShow

(127,310 posts)
108. Unfortunately
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jan 2019

the general public doesn't bother with the CNNs or MSNBCs or even the Sunday politics gabfest shows on network (you do have a small segment who are hard-core Faux Snooze watchers).

So these politicos are aiming to hit the other 90% of the population who either only cursorily follows politics. I.e., whatever might be mentioned during the 30 minute (20 minutes actual running time when you include commercials) 6:30 pm network news shows... OR who don't follow it at all but may hear about it on stuff like The View or the evening/late night comedy/variety shows like SNL/Maher/Colbert/Fallon/Kimmel/Conan/Noah, etc. .

brooklynite

(93,861 posts)
115. Why is it better to make a formal speech before 2,000 people...
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 09:06 PM
Jan 2019

...imost of whom are already supporters, nstead of reaching out to an audience of millions of undecided?

madville

(7,397 posts)
111. She will withdraw after Iowa/NH/SC when she doesn't break 5%
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jan 2019

I hope the same happens to the others that betrayed Franken, like Sanders, Warren, Booker and Harris. They all disqualified themselves in my eyes.

revmclaren

(2,488 posts)
113. For those who keep reminding us that other Democrats
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:02 PM - Edit history (2)

also called for Franken's resignation, I'll use this analagy...

After Custer led his forces into the disasterous battle at the Little Bighorn, only Custers name has been remembered by the average Joe as being at falt. None of the other soldiers names are even known to the average American.

Leaders always get the most pushback for their actions.

Gillibrand lead the charge against Franken with others (by bad judgement) following her. Combined with her statements against the Clinton's and her disturbing history with big tobacco, I and many others will not vote for her in the primaries, PERIOD!

If by a miracle she gets the nomination, of course I'll vote for her, but the primary is mine to decide.

ONLY! 2019 and beyond.

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