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Galraedia

(5,020 posts)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:40 PM Sep 2012

Romney On Obama Recovery: He Gets No Credit For Stopping Recession From Going Further

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- In an interview with a local Virginia television station on Sunday, Mitt Romney went further than normal in criticizing the president's handling of the economy, saying that he doesn't deserve credit for stemming the bleeding he inherited from his predecessor.

"There has never been a recession that went on forever. There has never been a depression that went on forever," Romney told WVEC News. "A recession occurs, the economy goes down, and then comes after recession, the recovery. That's happened since the beginning of time. The president wants to say, well, he stopped the recession from going further. Well, frankly, the recession came to an end and we are waiting for the president to get us to where he said he'd get us, which is 5.4 percent unemployment. And he hasn't been able to do it because of the policies he's put in place."

This is a variation of the attack line that Romney's campaign traditionally deploys, in that it's more explicit than usual in its unwillingness to give the president any due for slowing the rate of job loss that he inherited upon taking office. The country was shedding between 700,000 and 800,000 jobs a month in the winter of 2008 and 2009. By early spring and summer of 2009 -- shortly after the stimulus passed -- that number was reduced to the 300,000 to 400,000 range; by the summer, it was in the 100,000 to 200,000 range; by the fall it was in the 0 to 100,000 range; and shortly after, the country started producing a net gain of jobs on a monthly basis.

"Mr. Romney is correct that recessions always do end, but their severity and duration vary," former Obama Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag said in an email to The Huffington Post. "The relevant question is therefore whether you can cushion the blow, and the evidence (including cross-state comparisons) strongly suggests that the Recovery Act did exactly that."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/romney-obama-recession_n_1870936.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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Romney On Obama Recovery: He Gets No Credit For Stopping Recession From Going Further (Original Post) Galraedia Sep 2012 OP
"And he hasn't been able to do it because of the policies he's put in place." Rob H. Sep 2012 #1
+60 Roland99 Sep 2012 #23
Oh, really? yellerpup Sep 2012 #2
First ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #3
Thinking the same thing Roy Rolling Sep 2012 #8
Romney cormac69 Sep 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Sep 2012 #20
'course he'd never mention *that*... to quote Bush-daddy, "It wouldn't be prudent." JudyM Sep 2012 #20
The Bush Recession not an ordinary recession (chart). Obama kept it from being Great Depression II. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #5
Great chart n/t Roy Rolling Sep 2012 #9
STFU Flip-Flop'n Mittens! SoapBox Sep 2012 #6
Just like the Great Depression was a global crisis, so is the Great Recession. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #7
What a pissant. reflection Sep 2012 #10
Tell that to the Mayans, or the Roman Empire. Blue State Bandit Sep 2012 #11
So... fifthoffive Sep 2012 #12
ok. so recessions start and end irrespective of what the President does magical thyme Sep 2012 #13
this mac56 Sep 2012 #14
Whatever Multiple Choice!!!!!!!! skeewee08 Sep 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #16
That makes sense given his view of how the recession started. bamacrat Sep 2012 #17
Maybe when the recession is caused by corruption, it takes longer to get over. olddad56 Sep 2012 #18
If Romney were elected (or selected), it would be like letting the fox back in the hen house. olddad56 Sep 2012 #19
In my opinion Romney made the case to keep Obama, because if economies recover on your own then we JRLeft Sep 2012 #22

Rob H.

(5,349 posts)
1. "And he hasn't been able to do it because of the policies he's put in place."
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:49 PM
Sep 2012

One of the reasons we're not further along than we are is because of the stonewalling and filibustering BY THE GODDAMNED REPUBLICANS, MITT.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
2. Oh, really?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

If this is true: "A recession occurs, the economy goes down, and then comes after recession, the recovery. That's happened since the beginning of time," we could just set US Economy on autopilot and let it adjust itself as needed and everything would turn out fine every time. The sign of a stunted personality is refusing to give credit where credit is due and that is the LEAST of Rmoney's shortcomings.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. First ...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:55 PM
Sep 2012

I don't know where he got the 5.4% number?

But:

The president wants to say, well, he stopped the recession from going further. Well, frankly, the recession came to an end and we are waiting for the president to get us to where he said he'd get us, which is 5.4 percent unemployment. And he hasn't been able to do it because of the policies he's put in place."


To paraphrase Mr. Krugman:

"These aren't President Obama's economic policies ... remember, between criticizing the economy and criticizing the economy, there have been numerous votes where the gop is on record voting down President Obama's economic policies?"

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
8. Thinking the same thing
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:01 PM
Sep 2012

Where did he pull that 5.4% number from? The same place he and Ryan get all of their "facts"?

The GOP has put a roadblock in front of every policy, legislation, and appointment that Obama proposed. The mediocre four years belongs to the GOP, and their entitlement mentality that they believe they can shut down the government's business for four years while they plot their revenge is as unpatriotic and treasonous as anything I've seen in politics.

Response to cormac69 (Reply #4)

JudyM

(29,204 posts)
20. 'course he'd never mention *that*... to quote Bush-daddy, "It wouldn't be prudent."
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:46 PM
Sep 2012

Welcome to DU, cormac69!!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
6. STFU Flip-Flop'n Mittens!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:57 PM
Sep 2012

Hell, your damned party created a lot of this mess, that, REMINDER, spread worldwide.

Oh ya...and it continues, worldwide.

So please, just STFU, LOSER.

fifthoffive

(382 posts)
12. So...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:13 PM
Sep 2012

The President gets no credit for reversing the recession because there's nothing he can do - it's all up to the market and will happen regardless gov't. action.

But...

The President is entirely responsible for employment. The market has nothing to do with it, and can't fix employment without gov't. intervention.


How the heck are those two positions consistent?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
13. ok. so recessions start and end irrespective of what the President does
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:16 PM
Sep 2012

in which case, why should we change horses midstream Mr. Romney?

What is it that Presidents *can* do and exactly what will *you* do that is different from Mr. Obama? And why?

Overturn Roe v Wade?
Reduce your tax burden to zero?
Replace Obamacare with what?
End the homeowner's mortgage interest deduction?

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
17. That makes sense given his view of how the recession started.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:37 PM
Sep 2012

W gets no credit for starting it and Obama none for stopping it. Showing some consistency even if its stupid.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
18. Maybe when the recession is caused by corruption, it takes longer to get over.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:57 PM
Sep 2012

especially when the house of Reps is still full of corrupt people.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
22. In my opinion Romney made the case to keep Obama, because if economies recover on your own then we
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:04 PM
Sep 2012

do not need him.

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