Judiciary chairman criticizes fellow Democrat for treading in anti-Semitic 'hate'
Source: The Hill
BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/11/19 11:03 AM EST
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerold Nadler (D-N.Y.) on Monday condemned fellow Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar (Minn.), calling her tweets a day earlier that suggested a pro-Israel lobbying group was buying off lawmakers "deeply disappointing and disturbing."
Nadler, who is Jewish and represents one of the most Jewish Congressional districts in the country, accused Omar of trafficking in "old anti-Semitic tropes about Jews and money."
"Her words are deeply hurtful and offensive, particularly as they build on a previous comment she made about Jews 'hypnotizing' the world in support of Israel another old trope born of hate-filled texts like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion," Nadler said in a statement.
While of course our nations leaders are free to debate the relative influence of a particular organization on our countrys policy-making process, or the factors that make our system of governance imperfect, there is an expectation of leaders particularly those with a demonstrated commitment to the cause of justice and equality that they would be extremely careful not to tread into the waters of anti-Semitism or any other form of prejudice or hate," he continued. "Rep. Omar failed that test of leadership with these comments."
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/429401-judiciary-chairman-criticizes-fellow-democrat-for-treading-in-anti-semitic
sandensea
(21,624 posts)The fact is that foreign (and industry) lobbying groups are and have been buying off lawmakers like pigs in a county fair.
That's just a simple fact.
there is a big difference between backing Israel in general and backing Bibi and his far right people.
Love Israel. Detest the far-right genocidacs that have hijacked it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)And the implication that people only support Israel because they're being paid to is disgusting. And AIPAC is NOT a foreign lobby group, they're American.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)even if they are registered as a U.S. lobbying group.
You can engage in semantics gymnastics all you want, but it doesn't help to dissemble about what AIPAC's mission really is.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)in foreigners giving money to American politicians and Americans giving money to American politicians. That's not semantics, that's the LAW.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)It's like you're incapable of arguing in good faith.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)as semantics, knock yourself out. One is against the law and the other one isn't. Seems pretty simple.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Simple, right? And in good faith.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)foreign lobby group are simply LYING. What's good faith about THAT?
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Israel first, America second? There is no reason that both goals should create conflict. imo, silly me
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Palestinians, dead last.
still_one
(92,136 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)that people on the left are ignoring the obvious implication. Is this going to become like Great Britain where I would have no political home?
sinkingfeeling
(51,445 posts)getagrip_already
(14,708 posts)To the point where close Israeli contacts are enough to cause security clearance problems.
There is nothing anti-Semitic in opposing foreign government interference or attempts to influence.
He sounds wrong on this issue. It's not just the russians that need to be watched.
tritsofme
(17,376 posts)Omar should be condemned in the strongest possible terms. I look forward to a primary challenge.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)And so many posters here are trying to make it about something its not. HER implication is that politicians only support Israel because they're getting paid for it which is what "It's all about the benjamins" means and everyone with a brain knows it. Now they're just trying to defend her by deflection, just the way degenerate donnie and his crew does.
tritsofme
(17,376 posts)The casual dropping, in multiple instances, of classic anti-Semitic tropes and canards is deeply disturbing, those defending it, even more so.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)as I have so this isn't new to you either. If anyone had made a claim like "it's all about the terrorism' or "all about the subjugation of women" in reference to Muslims, this place would have gone up in flames. Only Islam gets a pass.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)lancelyons
(988 posts)Calling out a Pro Israel group is not anti semitic.
Soon any criticism of Israle will be called anti semitic. THATS SO STUPID.
Anti Semitic is when you insult jewish people.
If I called out the actions of Netanyahu, doesnt mean I am anti semitic.
PLEASE STOP WIHT THE CRAZY.
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)I'm not asking to be snarky. I just haven't seen anything attributed to her that can be considered anti-semitic. Anti-Israel, yes. But anti-semitic? I haven't seen proof . . .not yet, anyway.
And Nadler, whom I otherwise respect and admire, is either speaking of something I haven't seen yet or is way off base accusing her of using "old anti-Semitic tropes about Jews and money." Her tweet, "It's all about the Benjamins" was a simple and obvious reference to McCarthy's Party's willingness to trade its political support for donations of money -- and no-one can deny AIPAC's influence on his and Republican as well as Democratic support of Israel. The tweet is intended to remind the objective reader that our politicians are, for the most part, whored out to big money donors in general.
George II
(67,782 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)The context of the statement is the corrosive affect money has on our politics and it is fair to point this out. The test is would he say the same thing if she had called out the NRA for giving large sums to lawmakers. I don't think so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
matt819
(10,749 posts)Jewish politicians have a hard time separating Jewishness from Israel. I'm about ten years younger than Nadler, and I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood and went to Hebrew school (both not far from Nadler's). It was simply a given that Jewish = Israel and vice versa. When the various Jewish organizations knocked on our door to solicit donations, my parents gave money (not a lot - I think my father's salary at the time was around a whopping $10,000) and happily put the "I gave to the (fill in the blank)" sticker on the door. We celebrated Israel's National Day. That's just the way it was.
I suspect many Jews my age have left the fold - I left many, many years ago and count on my religious sibling to remind me of the holidays and to tell me what I should and shouldn't eat - though I'm sure many have stayed, and I'm doubly sure than any Jewish politician must - repeat, must - adhere to the equations noted above in their interactions with the Jewish community.
So, I understand where Nadler and other Jewish congresspeople are coming from, even the ones not from New York.
The "What an Idiot" in the title applies to the fact that they and Omar (and Ellison) are in the same party. It's not as if they will never meet or that they will never serve on the same committee. It is highly likely that their votes will overlap more than they will differ. It's not as if Omar, Ellison, and the other handful or non-Jewish and non-Christian members of Congress are from vastly different educational or social backgrounds. They are all well educated, professionals, and all were freely and fairly elected to Congress.
What I'm saying is, skip the public attacks. Talk to each other. I'm not suggesting a kumbaya moment, just talk and listen. It's not as if the Muslims and Buddhists and Hindus in the Democratic party are going to somehow stage a coup or form an anti-Jewish or anti-Christian coalition or caucus. Sure, they'll find that they disagree, but it may just stop the ad hominem attacks.
Yes, Nadler is a long-term politician and powerful in his own right as a result. Again, I'm not suggesting that all Democrats should or are going to agree on everything, but differences such as those highlighted by Nadler's comments, are perfect wedge opportunities for Republicans and, dare I say it, Russians. Someone - Pelosi? - needs to step in and sort this out before it gets out of hand.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Its an obvious political loser.
watoos
(7,142 posts)aren't always the best interests of the United States. Does my saying that make me anti- Semitic?
Bibi has aligned himself with the radicals in Saudi Arabia, Trump has aligned himself with the radicals in Saudi Arabia. The interests of Saudi Arabia are not always the best interests of the United States.
Trump is beholding to Saudi Arabia and he formulates our foreign policy in their best interests.
Not everyone in Israel wanted Trump to withdraw the U.S. from the nuclear peace deal, only the radical right wing of Israel wanted the U.S. to withdraw. Only the far right wing of Iran wanted the U.S. to withdraw from the Iran peace plan. Trump listened to Bibi and SA when he withdrew us from the peace plan which was a big mistake.
We better be careful. John Bolton is in a position of power, he and Bibi want us to invade Iran. I'm thinking that's not in the best interests of the U.S.
madville
(7,408 posts)It looks like the old guard is already tiring of the Freshmen antics.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)lancelyons
(988 posts)This is why the GOP says the DEMS will find a way to shoot themselves in the foot.
This is crazy.
lancelyons
(988 posts)Now if you want to say anything bad about israel its anti semitic.
This is NUTS.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)because they're being PAID to do it (which is EXACTLY what "it's all about the benjamins implies) is most certainly anti-semitic. I wouldn't presume to tell an African American what they should find bigoted and I expect the same courtesy from anyone who thinks they know what's anti-semitic but aren't Jewish.
lancelyons
(988 posts)I bet you think anybody saying anything bad about Israel is Anti Semtic.
the definition of antisemitism is
Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews.
calling out a Pro Israel American lobbying group is not hostility or descrimination against Jews.
STOP PLEASE.
lancelyons
(988 posts)Does this mean I am anti semitic? NO
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)But I've posted DOZENS OF TIMES that I loathe bibi and the religious freaks in Israel. Implying Jews doing something as a result of getting paid is disgusting and I'm glad Speaker Pelosi sees that better than so many right here. The people in power see it for what it is and for that I'm grateful.
lancelyons
(988 posts)She did not say Jews doing something as a result of getting paid. She implied congress was doing things as a result of getting paid by AIPAC who lobbies for pro Israel policy.
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the Congress and Executive Branch of the United States. The current President of AIPAC is Lillian Pinkus
If we NAACP was called out for lobbying and paying congressman, that would not be racism.
if that was the case, you could NEVER call out anything the NAACP did or it would be racist.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)AIPAC isn't even in the top 50 of organizations giving money to congress. She's just trashing them because they're pro-Israel. If you don't see where accusing Jews of being money grubbing is a problem, I really don't know what to tell you.
lancelyons
(988 posts)AIPIC spent 3.7 million in lobbying in 2018 alone.
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/03/22/the-best-congress-aipac-can-buy/
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)compared to other lobbyists. You really need to study this issue more if you think AIPAC is a big problem. Start with the NRA.
lancelyons
(988 posts)All of these firms spending large chunks of money on congress is something DEMS do not like or agree with. what gives with your defense?
Since I am calling out AIPIC am I exhibiting antisemitism?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)(I don't think, certainly not for disliking AIPAC but I have zero idea what's in your heart). Money in politics is a decades long problem. I don't like one of the very few that support Israel getting all the heat, that's all.
lancelyons
(988 posts)All she did was slam the AIPCI and lobbying and money that corrupts congress.. We have all agreed that big money lobbying happens and should stop.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)It's a bit like the n word. Big difference when it comes from whites. I'll try and come up with a better comparison but that one isn't bad.
lancelyons
(988 posts)OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)the Republican House minority leader. It reminds me of the many times McCarthy rushed to Obama's defence....oh, wait a minute....
old guy
(3,283 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)You seem to think it's only those on the right that are pissed about that tweet.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)lancelyons
(988 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)she's going to have a short career.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)He's no friend of the Democratic Party.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)She could probably be elected Senator and the Republicans would cheer her on.
Weird how that works.