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Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:24 PM

Trump says he's not 'happy' or 'thrilled' with bipartisan border deal

Source: Washington Post

The tentative deal, announced Monday evening by congressional negotiators, would provide only a fraction of the $5.7 billion President Trump was seeking for 200 miles of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. It would instead provide $1.375 billion for 55 miles of new border fences.

ďI canít say Iím happy. I canít say Iím thrilled,Ē Trump said of the deal.

Unless a border deal is signed into law, the government will enter another partial shutdown on Saturday.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2019/02/12/trump-says-hes-not-happy-or-thrilled-with-bipartisan-border-deal-that-would-avert-another-government-shutdown/?utm_term=.2bdcb9c14e0c



Worries me that Coulter or Limbaugh may have gotten to him and he's going to veto it.

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Reply Trump says he's not 'happy' or 'thrilled' with bipartisan border deal (Original post)
bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 OP
marble falls Feb 2019 #1
atreides1 Feb 2019 #12
cab67 Feb 2019 #15
DrToast Feb 2019 #20
guillaumeb Feb 2019 #31
sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #33
guillaumeb Feb 2019 #35
sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #36
guillaumeb Feb 2019 #39
sandensea Feb 2019 #2
sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #34
sandensea Feb 2019 #37
sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #41
sandensea Feb 2019 #42
Canoe52 Feb 2019 #3
thegoose Feb 2019 #4
Iliyah Feb 2019 #5
politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2019 #6
watoos Feb 2019 #7
IronLionZion Feb 2019 #8
BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #9
Demit Feb 2019 #17
BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #18
Demit Feb 2019 #22
BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #25
yaesu Feb 2019 #10
onetexan Feb 2019 #13
jcmaine72 Feb 2019 #11
BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #14
watoos Feb 2019 #16
Harker Feb 2019 #21
Hekate Feb 2019 #19
irisblue Feb 2019 #23
PSPS Feb 2019 #24
HopeAgain Feb 2019 #26
underpants Feb 2019 #27
WhoWoodaKnew Feb 2019 #28
walkingman Feb 2019 #29
MissMillie Feb 2019 #30
NCjack Feb 2019 #32
LawnKorn Feb 2019 #38
MFGsunny Feb 2019 #40

Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:26 PM

1. He'll fucking sign it though. Even he knows he screwed up with the last one.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:57 PM

12. Maybe, maybe not!

We know he screwed up the last time...but with the cheers of his cult still fresh in his ears...and the opinions of Hannity, Coulter, that this bill is garbage...there's a chance he won't sign it!

Trump lacks the empathy found in a rock, he didn't give two shits about federal workers suffering in the last shutdown, why would he be concerned now?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:06 PM

15. He may have known he screwed up,

but I don't think his memory extends very far. He's probably forgotten by now.

Senate Republicans have to put a lot of pressure on the Orange One to counter the rage coming from Fox "News".

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:43 PM

20. Yup. He'll sign it because Mitch won't protect him this time

The Republicans won't hold the line this time. They blame him (correctly so) for that bullshit shutdown.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:23 PM

31. Are you betting on Trump having any common sense?

I would not do so.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:04 PM

33. Doing an overall evaluation 🤔:

"Double plus 1 NO!"

The adoration of his fans and hate radio being the final influence for him digging in.

He has ten days to sign deal ? which may be used for some hurt inflicted b4 he actually signs. He may have had an inkling seep into the 'cavern' that he ain' gonna make 2020 for redux.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:20 PM

35. He apparently needs that adoration.

Perhaps as a substitute for the affection he did not receive as a child?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 05:12 PM

36. If he was just an ordinary citizen with no governing power

then there would be understanding coupled with compassion.

But not someone lacking affection in formative years who, from the oval office, is effectively damaging our country, the democratic way and rule of law.

I leave * to Heaven. Not on me.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #36)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:53 PM

39. I understand. eom

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:27 PM

2. Then it's probably a halfway decent arrangement

Always a good sign when the Orange Oaf isn't "thrilled" about something.

When he is, it usually involves illicit enrichment, treason, bigotry, underage girls, or all of the above.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:07 PM

34. Isn't that realization disgusting? "All of the above."

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:43 PM

37. SO disgusting - like you've never seen, let me tell you.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:15 PM

41. I remember that one. The holy repukes think nothing of it. 🤤

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #41)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:13 PM

42. They think of him as King David: full of character flaws; but a man of greatness

Try Caligula. Or Idi Amin.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:27 PM

3. Pour lil trumpy has a sad.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:28 PM

4. Whomp whomp asshole

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:28 PM

5. I really don't care, do you?

Nope.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:28 PM

6. Guess what Orangeman. I'm not 'happy' or 'thrilled' with you either, so I guess we're even.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:40 PM

7. He never read the fuck'n thing.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:43 PM

8. Good, go stew about it all night and send some incoherent tweets

After Coulter's insults last time, caveman will probably sign it anyway.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:43 PM

9. "Unless a border deal is signed into law" - WRONG. Civics 101-

It does NOT have to be "signed into law". If a piece of legislation is vetoed, then Congress can override and it becomes law. Alternately, if a piece of legislation is sent to the President for signature and it sits for 10 days (not counting Sundays and if not sent over near the end of a Congressional session in December) without being signed, then it will automatically "become law" without a signature.

This bullshit that the media keeps doing is driving me nuts.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:26 PM

17. Well, technically, waiting out the 10-day timeframe of the pocket veto would take us past

Friday's deadline & the govt would have to shut down. Ditto if he sits on it for that length of time before deciding whether to sign it or veto it. In this case, the deadline rules.

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Response to Demit (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:31 PM

18. A "pocket veto" only applies at the end of the Congressional term (before adjournment).

The "10-day wait to automatically become law" mention was done as a general "Civics 101" option and "How a bill becomes a law", something that the Washington Post is apparently unaware of (even if it doesn't apply here with respect to timing).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:54 PM

22. Yes, you're right. I was thinking the term applied to any time the prez "puts it in his pocket" and

doesn't sign.

But the 10 days still obtains, because 10 days would take us past Friday. The writer is correct to say that unless he actively signs this bill, the govt will have to shut down. (I'm assuming there's realistically not enough time between now and Friday midnight for him to veto and for Congress to override it.)

You're also right that it wouldn't kill journalists to explicate the civics involved

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Response to Demit (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:04 PM

25. Yeah see in that case

it has to do with the timing to allow for Congress to "override". If it sits between sessions when the old Congress has left and the new one has not been sworn in yet, then it gets that "pocket veto".

But again - there are other obscure tools that Congress has used where theoretically, Congress can also "stop the clock" - they have done it before over a weekend if something wasn't quite ready yet to be sent for signature, during which time some sort of lapse has occurred or is about to occur. I know they have done it during times when I was a fed and there was an imminent lapse in appropriations (where agencies were told to hold off on sending out furlough notices).

Sadly there are all sorts of games they have played and can play.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:49 PM

10. If Mc Turtle backs it tRump will have to sign it. nt

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Response to yaesu (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:00 PM

13. GOP senators need to grow a spine and force Turtle to vote to override the Idiot's veto

if it comes down to that. He is clearly endangering the country in many ways as we've seen with the ridiculous and reckless shutdown last month. It cannot happen again.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:54 PM

11. He should be. He overplayed his hand and got less than he could have had a couple of months ago.

Actually, he got far more than he should have gotten. The arrogant a-hole should be orgasmic and enjoy what I hope will be the last money ever allocated to this idiocy.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:05 PM

14. Even if ne says he will sign it NOW, he could change his mind in

a nanosecond...he does that all the time. Worst deal maker EVER! Worst fake prez EVER!

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:14 PM

16. It's all Kabuki theater,

Trump will jump at this deal because the new fence will be on federal land. If Trump is serious about fencing hundreds of miles he's going to run into court battles or he will have to condemn people's property. Most people who have land along the border don't want a fence.

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Response to watoos (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:44 PM

21. This crap gives Kabuki a bad name.

Noh kidding.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:40 PM

19. You notice how the money on offer just keeps going down? Down, down, down...

Our Dems are not caving -- Trump is. At one point the Dems actually offered him a fig leaf so he could say he got something, but he said no, threw his pablum against the wall and shut down the government.

Then the Dems (read: Mme Chair) fancied it up and offered him less money. Some here said the Dems were gonna cave. Uh, no, they offered him less money.

And it is happening again. Nancy Pelosi was right: Trump is going to end up with a beaded curtain that he'll have to call a wall.

And I'm saying the only way he can claim it's Mexican is if he sends one of his kids to the Tijuana bazarre to buy one for him.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:00 PM

23. A bit from the article

snip--"ďI donít think youíre going to see a shutdown. I wouldnít want to see a shutdown. If you did have it, itís the Democrats fault,Ē Trump said. ďAnd I accepted the first one, and Iím proud of what weíve accomplished because people learned during that shutdown all about the problems coming in from the southern border. I accept it. Iíve always accepted it. But this one, I would never accept it if it happens.Ē


snip--"The bipartisan agreement announced late Monday by the top four leaders of Congressí spending committees includes $1.375 billion for 55 miles of new fences along the border, short of the $5.7 billion Trump had sought for more than 200 miles of walls. It retreats from Democratsí demands for stringent new limits on the ability of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to detain undocumented immigrants."

The article names Mc Connell(Ky)& Thune(ND), both in their parties leadership are quoted. Interesting

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:00 PM

24. Doesn't matter. If he vetoes, congress will override. Mcconnell won't sit on it this time.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:06 PM

26. I don't believe that the Republicans in Congress

have the cajones to override Trump.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:06 PM

27. No one is happy or thrilled getting their ass handed to them

Just saying

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:10 PM

28. Who cares? Trump is a worse negotiator than Isiah Thomas

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:10 PM

29. I wouldn't give him a dime for a wall. We should have pressed for DACA agreement.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:19 PM

30. Wrong again, Mr. Groper

ďI donít think youíre going to see a shutdown. I wouldnít want to see a shutdown. If you did have it, itís the Democrats fault,Ē Trump said.

You keep demanding something you know you're not going to get. Not only that, only about 1/3 of country wants it.

If you keep fighting for 1) something that isn't necessary; 2) something that won't work to address the crisis you made up; 3) something people don't want to spend money on (Mexico was supposed to pay for it, according to you) 4) something you didn't get the last time you held Federal workers hostage...

Then it is ENTIRELY YOUR FAULT.


(Or keep pulling the sh*t your pulling and watch the rest of us vote your stupid a** out of office.)

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #30)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:51 PM

32. I want p****gr*****g to be declared a National Emergency. nt

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:50 PM

38. Trump is not happy or thrilled in being a loser

Well Mr. Trump, tired of being a loser yet?, loser. You can always resign and save yourself the grief.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:45 PM

40. McTurtle ain't playing anymore.



Am even willing to bet a shiny penny that McTurtle has veto-proof majority votes in his back pocket this time.

Something about "the second kick of a mule."

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