Republicans report Cohen to justice department for allegedly lying in testimony

[Scotch-Irish]

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Source: The Guardian

In a public letter to new Trump-appointed attorney general William Burr, Jordan and Meadows said Cohen had made "numerous willfully (sic) and intentionally false statements of material fact" during the hearing.

The pair said:

Mr Cohen's testimony before the Committee on Oversight and Reform on February 27 2019 was a spectacular and brazen attempt to knowing (sic) and willfully (sic) testify falsely and fictitiously to numerous material facts.

Jordan and Meadows said Cohen had lied when he said in the hearing: "I never defrauded any bank."




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Here we go again!

[TeamPooka]

1. and they will want to prosecute Don Jr for the same charges, right?

[Scotch-Irish]

3. Not their fair-haired child!

This is so backwards.

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. Clear message to punish cohen for testifying.

and a warning to others who might testify. Pure revenge.

[Scotch-Irish]

4. More threatening and intimidating witnesses.

I'm anxious to see how Barr handles this.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Trump-Republicon Party strong arm intimidation. Smells like fascism (alignment of state & firms).

Matt Gaetz just got rewarded for his intimidation of Cohen.

Gym Jordan and Meadows don't realize that this will fizzle and make them look stupid. If Barr or DoJ doesn't deny it, then the prosecution will fizzle.

Cohen did not defraud the banks. He only did so at tRump's direction. He was part of a conspiracy but not the mover / motivator / beneficiary party.

[ScratchCat]

10. Its just a stupid ploy for the base

The DOJ is not going to take it seriously or "investigate" Michael Cohen for things he has already been investigated for and plead on. All three things are nonsense and nothing that involves "perjury". His comments about "bank fraud" can't be seen as perjury because there is a court record to those facts. The idea about wanting a position in the White House is not a fact that can be proven one way or another because its his personal feelings. Nobody would ever be charged with perjury over such a thing. Finally, the foreign entities thing was already debunked on spot by the committee.

[Scotch-Irish]

16. Facts sure don't matter to these guys.

They're just like Donald and his family; telling the truth is not a virtue to them, and making a huge drama to draw attention to themselves is, to them, always good. There's something wrong with their brains.

[StevieM]

26. I would argue that it outright is fascism. (eom)

[iluvtennis]

7. +++ agree. Cohen never said there wasn't bank fraud against him, he said

that he had never defaulted on any bank loan and that he paid his loans.

Tax fraud is different. GOPers have NOTHING

[DFW]

5. Fine, but only if all Republican House members get the same treatment for emails and Benghazi

I realize they weren't under oath or witnesses, but this is playing by their rules, so apparently it doesn't matter much.

[louis c]

8. I understood exactly what Cohen meant and he explained it the first time through

Michael Cohen admitted that he falsified important material on his Bank Loan Applications. What he said after that was that he never left any loan, bank or otherwise, unpaid. Every loan was paid back. I remember his testimony. Cohen pled guilty to Bank Fraud, so naturally he didn't say that he didn't falsify his application.

If someone lies to me to get money, but, in the end, pays me back every nickel, I'm far less angry than if he lied to get a loan and stiffed me.

Kinda like his ex-boss.

[oldsoftie]

19. So they're going for the "letter of the law" violation. I doubt it will go anywhere.

Cohen did commit fraud when he lied to get a loan even though he paid it back. But i just dont see a judge viewing that the same as the idiots in the GOP

[louis c]

28. Agreed

[4TheArts]

9. I have constantly despised my representative Meadows

and now a I white hot hate him.

[Leghorn21]

13. So sorry, Arts!! But as a consolation for you?: after yesterday, this Meadows guy is now

despised NATIONALLY and not just in NC!!

Hang tough, you’re not alone anymore!!

[Ford_Prefect]

15. Mark among many should be careful in asking for perjury investigation

lest he be next on the list to be examined for public veracity. Mark is well known in NC for his rather elastic version of what constitutes Truth, Beauty and the American Way. His remarks of convenience are often more confounding than any Senator Helms ever spoke.

May they all rot in the same federal cell block. Preferably somewhere they can appreciate the effect of rising tides and no tennis courts.

[olegramps]

21. I hate every damn one of the bastards. They are a cancer eating the soul of the nation.

[LisaM]

27. Well, the bright side is that you can call as a constituent and complain.

Not that it will do much good, I suppose, but at least you have standing to complain directly.

[Midnightwalk]

11. Meanwhile

The trump family can’t rub two words together without lying and they don’t want to investigate any of that.

They know Cohen didn’t say what they are claiming. It is a sleazy pathetic but effective way of getting the media to talk about something other than the bombshell allegations and the korean negotiation fiasco.

[defacto7]

12. More media grandstanding to undermine his credibility.

It's not about having a point, it's about propaganda toward the rw base. Jordan and Meadows don't have to be correct just loud.

[SunSeeker]

14. None of these allegedly perjured statements involve the descriptions of Trump felonies he gave.

The Republicans are not disputing any of the statements Cohen made describing Trump felonies.

[druidity33]

29. That s a very good point! K&R, nt.

[erronis]

17. They're so used to gumming up the works with incessant hearings. They don't know how to find

the truth. And they don't want to find it since it will expose their own deviancy.

Cohen's opening statement laying out his culpability was very good. In a normal court of law he would be able to say "I addressed this already [sir]". In the grandstanding the the [R]s seem so love, the whole 5 minutes need to be reading from their prepared script. ?Prepared by whom?

[PeeJ52]

18. This "government" is a fucking joke! This is what you get when you elect a reality TV star.

This shit has got to stop. When are we going to quit playing games and start governing again? Cummings was so right yesterday. I don't believe he nor I will ever see it in our lifetimes.

[Ellipsis]

20. There are different definitions to the word defraud.

A simple Google search will show you that. They are attempting to apply thier definition.

It won't work. This will go nowhere. I hope they sue thier asses off.

These are the games they play. Muddy the waters.

Fuckers.

This will hurt them in the long run and makes Cohens statement about protecting a man and them caught in the same trap much more applicable.

This isnt about vernacular and lawyer games. This is about treason and obstruction ; the future of our country is at stake.

[ScratchCat]

22. One more thing

I'm not positive that Meadows and Jordan can really even refer this to DOJ for investigation. I believe it would take Cummings, or the majority of the committee would have to vote on it. I could be wrong, but I think the committee chair has this power, but individual members do not. I say this because the Democrats were not able to get referrals for Hope Hicks, Erik Prince, Don Jr and others back when they didn't have majority control. Again, I may be wrong.

[LiberalFighter]

23. Yep! Committee needs to vote on it.

[BlueIdaho]

24. Jordan and Meadows

Trump lackeys could end up being censured for their lies... they don’t have Paul Ryan to cover their asses anymore.

[Renew Deal]

25. I have a hard time believing that what he said is false

And it certainly wasn't misleading if you see what he said. He basically said that he didn't take any money from a bank. I don't think it's prosecutable.

[The Truth Is Here]

30. Republicans - speak for yourself.

All of you will turn yourselves to the Department of Justice for inmate processing.

Cohen has revealed all.

[rickyhall]

31. Untouchables

Capone vs. Ness, Trump vs. Mueller: Ness/Mueller wins, Capone/Trump goes to jail. Classic.

[RVN VET71]

32. If only the same fate could befall Jordan

and that other clown, Meadows. (And every other sycophantic robotic automaton on the committee, for that matter.)

Barr should send a polite letter back to these jackasses, appreciating their concern for the stability of the Republic but chiding them for their overzealous interpretation of laws they truly seem not to understand. In other words, send them, basically, a "Dear Assholes" letter, but with sugar. IMHO, anyways.