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riversedge

(70,052 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 02:24 PM Mar 2019

State lawmakers pushing for laxer vaccine rules despite measles outbreaks

Source: Politico






'We still get messages that say these diseases are good for you,' says one Oregon lawmaker who opposes efforts to let more parents opt out.

By VICTORIA COLLIVER 03/03/2019 07:05 AM EST


Measles is spreading from New York to Texas to Washington state in the worst outbreak in years, but some state lawmakers want to take the vaccination debate in the opposite direction: Loosening rules covering whether kids get inoculated.

In Oregon, state lawmakers will consider a so-called transparency bill favored by the "vaccine hesitant." New York is simultaneously considering eliminating and expanding exemptions that allow parents to opt out. One bill in Texas would prohibit the state from even tracking exemptions.

The push to loosen the rules is occurring even as the U.S. has experienced more than 160 measles cases in 10 states since Jan. 1, including 74 in Washington state and Oregon linked to the outbreak in the Pacific Northwest, according to the states and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The outbreaks have turned 2019 into one of the most active years for vaccine policy in recent memory, inspiring several states to try to toughen their vaccination mandates with the aim of stemming future outbreaks. Yet some legislators are advocating giving parents more control over whether their children need to be vaccinated..........................................

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/03/measles-outbreak-vaccination-1192887







Childhood vaccines are a haven for conspiracy theorists. | Joe Raedle/Getty Images

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State lawmakers pushing for laxer vaccine rules despite measles outbreaks (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2019 OP
Fucking science denying IDIOTS. groundloop Mar 2019 #1
DANGEROUS IDIOTS. riversedge Mar 2019 #18
Idiots. Ignorant bunch of fucking idiots. Solly Mack Mar 2019 #2
Just culling the herd some more... durablend Mar 2019 #3
Cull the right herd Traildogbob Mar 2019 #6
But it's not the anti-vaxxers who are getting hurt. NYC Liberal Mar 2019 #11
And the elderly Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2019 #12
100% Traildogbob Mar 2019 #17
Have you seen what's going on in Italy right now ? Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2019 #20
I have not seen that Traildogbob Mar 2019 #21
If they are so anti-big government, why are they for big govt restricting women's right-to-choose? progree Mar 2019 #4
They are against big government when it constrains them christx30 Mar 2019 #5
Fucking Morans jpak Mar 2019 #7
Make sure all your loved ones are well vaccinated BlueIdaho Mar 2019 #8
It's Natural Selection in action. States that don't require people get vaccinated will have Nitram Mar 2019 #9
The anti-vax movement is intense among lefties. yardwork Mar 2019 #23
Clueless lefties are not immune to Natural Selection based on non-adaptive behavior. Nitram Mar 2019 #24
Different insanity and irrational thinking with the same end-result ck4829 Mar 2019 #26
I think they've been influenced by propaganda from the same source. yardwork Mar 2019 #27
Indeed, I would even say vaccines are a 'vaccine' against nationalism ck4829 Mar 2019 #28
Exactly! yardwork Mar 2019 #29
The director of my child's daycare center MBS Mar 2019 #10
We've also lost COMMON SENSE. Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2019 #13
That too!! MBS Mar 2019 #16
I'm old. I've had some of the diseases for which there are now vaccines TrogL Mar 2019 #14
Medical Genocide moonseller66 Mar 2019 #15
A part of me really wants another global pandemic NickB79 Mar 2019 #19
The global anti-vaccination conspiracy movement appears to be promoted by Putin. yardwork Mar 2019 #22
Kick ck4829 Mar 2019 #25
My view of anti-vaxxers: They are imbeciles, and a danger to society. Progressive Jones Mar 2019 #30

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
6. Cull the right herd
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 04:35 PM
Mar 2019

I believe if you do not want to vaccinate, do not believe in science, then you are restricted to Devos Jesus schools. Keep the diseases confined to them and let em cure their pandemics with thoughts and prayers. Buh, bye✋👏🏽

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
12. And the elderly
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:03 AM
Mar 2019

and the immune-compromised,

and the immune-suppressed

and people with auto-immune disorders

and pregnant women

Need I continue ?

All these anti-vaxxer morons were all themselves vaccinated.

Here in Washington State, we are still struggling with the measles outbreak. A few years ago, we had a pertussis epidemic. PERTUSSIS, FFS. Whooping cough.

Some body (as in government health body) needs to bitch slap these idiots out of their stupidity.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
17. 100%
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:32 AM
Mar 2019

As it is with everything far right wing, or actually just right wing, a small % of the population are willing to screw everyone for their idiotic ideals, a they are stealing elections. When that screwing starts hitting the 40% of eligible voters that do not give a damn about voting, we may have a chance. Tornado outbreak in the south killing 24 followed by record cold, fake news, science is "lies from the gates of hell", a quote by a GOP congressMAN. Vaccines......evil science from hell. Climate change, lies!!

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
20. Have you seen what's going on in Italy right now ?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 10:58 PM
Mar 2019

Anti-vaxxer politicians overturned a law on compulsory vaccinations against measles and now the country is in the throw of an epidemic.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
21. I have not seen that
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 02:18 AM
Mar 2019

Wait until the tropical diseases start migrating north. Those southern red staters will start dropping faster than Lindsay Graham at a 24/7 truck stop at 2 AM. At least we can watch and say told ya, before it kills us a little north. Not much we can do with good ole AmurKKKan health care. Pharmo's will price gauge.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
5. They are against big government when it constrains them
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 04:25 PM
Mar 2019

from living as they would like. They are for big government when it prevents people from living how they like.
All politics is like this. No one likes restrictions on them. They love restrictions on others.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
8. Make sure all your loved ones are well vaccinated
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:31 PM
Mar 2019

And let nature clean out the shallow end of the gene pool.

Nitram

(22,755 posts)
9. It's Natural Selection in action. States that don't require people get vaccinated will have
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:43 PM
Mar 2019

epidemics. Unfortunately, people who can't get vaccinated because of compromised immune systems, will also be affected. But in states where vaccination is required, herd immunity will be much higher and outbreaks less likely. Red states will suffer a decrease in population and their representation in the House will be decreased.

ck4829

(35,037 posts)
26. Different insanity and irrational thinking with the same end-result
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 09:30 AM
Mar 2019

The way I see it, it seems as though people on the left would be anti-vax because they think vaccines are not “natural” while people on the right see themselves as “genetically superior” and don’t NEED vaccines and their parents got measles and they turned out OK... never mind the uncle who died from it.

yardwork

(61,534 posts)
27. I think they've been influenced by propaganda from the same source.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 10:45 AM
Mar 2019

There is a global anti-vax movement promoted by Putin, whose purpose is to undermine stability and interrupt collaboration among countries. The anti-vax propaganda is creating a crisis among NGOs in Africa and other under-resourced parts of the world.

When I see people on both the left and right who have been influenced by anti-vax propaganda, I assume that they're being influenced by targeted approaches to them from the same source. The propaganda is tailored to people's' beliefs.

This is the same pattern we saw during the 2016 presidential election.

ck4829

(35,037 posts)
28. Indeed, I would even say vaccines are a 'vaccine' against nationalism
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:11 AM
Mar 2019

Pathogens don’t respect borders and getting rid of them requires international cooperation.

Disease elimination and eradication is also a noble goal because it says despite national, economic, religious, and other differences there should be a freedom from disease that *all* humans should have.

I think the less united our world is, Putin’s regime gathers strength. Nationalism is his greatest weapon.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
10. The director of my child's daycare center
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 08:14 PM
Mar 2019

Put it well: “People who resist vaccinations for themselves or their children do not understand the seriousness of these diseases.”

The other problem is that, over the 35-40 years - in some ways you could argue that it’s been THE problem in our society from 1980 onward-is that we’ve lost the concept of the common good.

Refusal to vaccinate is essentially a selfish decision.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
15. Medical Genocide
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:31 AM
Mar 2019

A page right out of the Third Reich's Book.

This poster is from the 1930’s, and promotes the Nazi monthly Neues Volk (New People}, the organ of the party’s racial office. The text reads: “This genetically ill person will cost our people’s community 60,000 marks over his lifetime. Citizens, that is your money. Read Neues Volk, the monthly of the racial policy office of the NSDAP.”

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
19. A part of me really wants another global pandemic
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:04 PM
Mar 2019

Something like the 1918 flu, or a novel virus like the movie Contagion. Really wake people up and see how precarious their lives really are without modern medicine, and how they take it for granted.

yardwork

(61,534 posts)
22. The global anti-vaccination conspiracy movement appears to be promoted by Putin.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:15 AM
Mar 2019

It's a marker of how well Russian propaganda has infiltrated communities in the U.S., among people on both the left and right wings.

Anti-vaxers are getting their information from a highly suspect source.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
30. My view of anti-vaxxers: They are imbeciles, and a danger to society.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 01:49 PM
Mar 2019

Call me callous; I don't care. Vaccines have been working for many decades.
There is no equivalency between the science, and the opinions of anti-vaxxers.
I am 100% behind a government mandate for vaccination.
Where did this "movement" come from?
Are there really that many people like this in our society?

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