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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:59 AM Sep 2012

Movie that set off violence in Middle East produced by Southern California nonprofit

Source: AP



An inflammatory anti-Muslim film that has been blamed in this week's deadly attack on U.S. diplomats in Libya was produced by a Duarte-based Christian non-profit, officials said.

Media for Christ, which has its administrative offices south of the 210 Freeway in Duarte, took out a film permit for the production, according to City Manager Darryl George.

The producers also used Blue Cloud studios in Santa Clarita, also known as Blue Cloud Movie Ranch, as the film's location, George said.

It was filmed in Santa Clarita George said. He said he obtained the information from the L.A. County Sheriff's Department.



Read more: http://www.willitsnews.com/ci_21529045/anti-islam-movie-filmed-southern-california



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Movie that set off violence in Middle East produced by Southern California nonprofit (Original Post) trailmonkee Sep 2012 OP
The film spurred protests, not the violence Scootaloo Sep 2012 #1
Also, the media isn't going to mention the ones who carried out the attack,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #11
Or you're just buying into our government's attempt to spin this to save face. harmonicon Sep 2012 #13
If we are attempting causal analysis Generic Other Sep 2012 #22
but of course that's more conjecture... harmonicon Sep 2012 #24
I also believe Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. n/t Scootaloo Sep 2012 #26
So do I!! harmonicon Sep 2012 #27
Agent for Service of Process, etc. per California Sec. of State's website JDPriestly Sep 2012 #2
not I... trailmonkee Sep 2012 #3
If the filmmakers turn out to be anti-Israel and Romney is supporting them, what will it mean? Democat Sep 2012 #9
Who are their donors? aquart Sep 2012 #10
See if their IRS Form 990 is in a public database such as ProgressiveEconomist Sep 2012 #16
ADDRESS, TELEPHONE NUMBERS, EIN, and IRS Form 990 links ProgressiveEconomist Sep 2012 #31
I don't know. If they are a registered non-profit, but not a religion, JDPriestly Sep 2012 #30
And the plot thickens... SoapBox Sep 2012 #4
Hi, the 'source' of the article/link is not the AP. Tx4obama Sep 2012 #5
We need a better source. willitsnews? SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2012 #6
Willits News is a paper in Mendocino County, a county in CA. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #21
okay kids. let's get to the root of this. grasswire Sep 2012 #7
It's in the LA Times: jsr Sep 2012 #8
Two words: Al Queda Astazia Sep 2012 #12
please elucidate on your research. Tunkamerica Sep 2012 #14
agree dhol82 Sep 2012 #15
Looks like an Egyptian Christian Sect - Coptic Christian SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2012 #28
Was going to state how I arrived at my views; Tonight, Rachel went point by point... Astazia Sep 2012 #29
It's a sign of a desperate population doing desperate things in the face of hopelessness fasttense Sep 2012 #17
Scientists predict a round of rioting is likely caraher Sep 2012 #18
I don't understand why they giva a crap about what a right wing evangelical group says about anythin judesedit Sep 2012 #19
Any government funding this unholy group is getting should be cut off immediately. judesedit Sep 2012 #20
I'm betting that "office" is empty save for one desk and phone... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #23
Imagine if all Christian charities spent millions for good Sunlei Sep 2012 #25
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. The film spurred protests, not the violence
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:16 AM
Sep 2012

The protests were used as cover by a militant group to launch an attack.

Careful distinctions that the media doesn't seem to care about, I guess.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. Also, the media isn't going to mention the ones who carried out the attack,...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:52 AM
Sep 2012

....are Right Wing Fundies that are the mirror image of the Right Wing Christian fundies here who do things like burn churches and mosques and bomb abortion clinics.

Trust me, the local cops (yes, they exist, including detectives) will find these guys because you just KNOW the guilty are bragging about it. Also, the local police HAVE to find these guys due to international pressure. You don't just attack an embassy and walk away from it. Libya is NOT Iran in the 80's. This was NOT a government sanctioned operation and the government there knows it owes it's very existence to the United States' efforts and will do all they can to get these guys.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
13. Or you're just buying into our government's attempt to spin this to save face.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 05:35 AM
Sep 2012

I don't think we have evidence one way or another that the "protests" (protesting what? Free speech?) and the violence were or were not directly related or coordinated.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
22. If we are attempting causal analysis
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:54 AM
Sep 2012

We must also include the Yemeni Al Q guy they got on Monday...there was heightened tension in the area on 9/11 for a number of reasons.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
24. but of course that's more conjecture...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:34 PM
Sep 2012

What was the date of the second or third most fatal terrorist attacks on the US? What about in other countries? I can't name them. I don't think we should assume that other countries are as consumed with US mass-media-mass-hysteria as we seem to be.

Though, on an interesting note, I just re-learned today that it was this time that Mormon pioneers massacred a wagon-train in Utah - often not given as a terrorist attack in the US, though over a hundred were killed.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
27. So do I!!
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:41 PM
Sep 2012

As much as I have evidence for that, I have far more evidence that the US supported royalists, racists, islamists, and other anti-socialists in the recent "revolution."

NATO did their job to a T. Kudos for them.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Agent for Service of Process, etc. per California Sec. of State's website
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:22 AM
Sep 2012
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx

Entity # Date Filed Status
C2780715 06/06/2005 ACTIVE

Entity Name
MEDIA FOR CHRIST

Agent for Service of Process
JOSEPH NASSRALLA ABDELMASIH

A list of Christian-sounding videos:

http://www.mediaforchrist.org/topvideos.html

Some of the links from Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih seemed to go to anti-Israel sites having to do maybe with Bethlehem. Frankly, I did not feel very comfortable looking at these weird websites. Maybe someone who know compters and security better than I do could check this out.

Some addresses are given at the Sec. of State website, but I don't think I should post them here. This entire link could be a red herring or downright false, and posting more could cause trouble to an innocent person. But the Sec. of State of California's website is public information.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
9. If the filmmakers turn out to be anti-Israel and Romney is supporting them, what will it mean?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:58 AM
Sep 2012

Only speculation at this point, but anything is possible.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
31. ADDRESS, TELEPHONE NUMBERS, EIN, and IRS Form 990 links
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:07 AM
Sep 2012

The 2011 Form 990 (PDF URL below) reveals the following information:

Media for Christ
1040 Hamilton Rd
Duarte CA 91010
(661)233-8787
EIN 20-3012642

President/Board Chair: Joseph N Abdelmasih
Board Member: Rania W Mossad
Vice President: Kamal Rizk, CPA. 1649 Stannard Trail, Raleigh, NC 27612. (919)787-9947

The 501(c)(3)'s Gross receipts for 2011 were $1,016,785.

"Gifts, grants, contributions, and memebership fees" soared from under $200,000 a year for 2009 and prior years to $633,516 in 2010 and $1,016,366 in 2011.

"Forms 1023 (or 1024 if applicable), 990, and 990-T ... available for public inspection" "by request" and on Media for Christ's wn website".

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From a search at http://foundationcenter.org/findfunders/990finder/ :

"ORGANIZATION_NAME Media for Christ,
STATE CA
EIN 20-3012642

YEAR TOTAL_ASSETS FORM PAGES URL
2011 $67,166 990 30
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990s/990search/990.php?ein=203012642&yr=201112&rt=990&t9=A

2010 $88,362 990 30
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990s/990search/990.php?ein=203012642&yr=201012&rt=990&t9=A

2009 $102,209 990EZ 6
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990s/990search/990.php?ein=203012642&yr=200912&rt=990EZ&t9=A

2009 $102,209 990ER 4
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990s/990search/990.php?ein=203012642&yr=200912&rt=990ER&t9=A

2008 $36,563 990R 3

2008 $36,563 990 25

2007 $0 990R 3

2007 $57,427 990 21

2006 $53,529 990 21

2005 $53,176 990 18

2006 Foundation Center

Notice: The IRS has announced processing errors on electronically filed Forms 990 for filing years 2007-2009. Learn more¯
Your query: ( Organization Name: media for christ , State: "CA" , Zip: 91010 , EIN: None Chosen , Fiscal Year: None Chosen )
10 documents matched. 10 documents displayed."

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
30. I don't know. If they are a registered non-profit, but not a religion,
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:59 AM
Sep 2012

they have to file extensive tax returns. Used to be, the returns of foundations, etc. were made public, but I don't know how that works nowadays or how to get them.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
5. Hi, the 'source' of the article/link is not the AP.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:32 AM
Sep 2012

Please do an edit to reflect that the source is: The Willits News

The two main writers listed at the top of the article are not with the AP.

Thank you

Tx4obama
LBN Host


 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. Willits News is a paper in Mendocino County, a county in CA.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:27 AM
Sep 2012

Been reading that paper most of my life on and off. What basis do you have for sneering at it?
This story is also in the Times, in Los Angeles which is a larger city in California....

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. okay kids. let's get to the root of this.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:43 AM
Sep 2012

I have confidence in the citizen journalists to figure this out.

Astazia

(262 posts)
12. Two words: Al Queda
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 05:20 AM
Sep 2012

A grass roots protest on or corresponding with 9-11 or uprising from an indie film usually doesn't usually come with RPGS...not 1, 2, but more than 5.



I believe, from my research thus far, is that a few were used to advance a terrorist agenda. I know grenade launchers are not for sale onon the open market or Ebay. This smells planned as planned gets. I vould be wrong but this appears staged.

Any one agree-disagree?

dhol82

(9,351 posts)
15. agree
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 05:56 AM
Sep 2012

Rachel was positing Al Queda last night. The rioting was one thing, the rpg attack on the embassy another. Possibly related to the death of Al-Libi in June.

Astazia

(262 posts)
29. Was going to state how I arrived at my views; Tonight, Rachel went point by point...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:25 AM
Sep 2012

I don't know how to post links & text from my cell phone, but tonight Rachel went through when & why things happened. Our fallen Ambassador Chris Stevens had written a memo re; increased al queda presence in a neighboring city to Tripoli. Check out "The Rachel Maddow Show" tonight. I hope that will clear some of this up. In the next 24 hours investigators will arrive & shed more light on what led to this attack. The sophistication of this attack led to the working theory that this may have been more coordinated.

I wish I knew how to cut & paste from cell phone but I am not sure how to do it. Lost many a post attempting to. I am not someone who posts without doing my homework & hopefully will have my reg. computer up & running soon.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
17. It's a sign of a desperate population doing desperate things in the face of hopelessness
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:16 AM
Sep 2012

Do you really think people would be rioting (no matter who orchestrates it) if they felt their economic future was bright? Do you see the rich and middle class rioting in these Muslim countries? Were suicide attacks as common before the bushes made war on Iran.

Do you think if wealth and prosperity were available to all people, they would be rioting in the streets over a film????

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or who has the better God. And has everything to do with an impoverished, hopeless population pushed into desperate acts.

caraher

(6,277 posts)
18. Scientists predict a round of rioting is likely
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:55 AM
Sep 2012
Some researchers have linked things like the Arab Spring to food prices.

Bar-Yam highlighted the food riots of 2007-08 and 2010-11 that were fuelled by sudden and dramatic spikes in food prices. He said his institute recently entered data from the US drought into its computer model, which predicted the outbreak of food-related unrest "in a short period of time".

"When people are unable to feed themselves and their families, widespread social disruption occurs," Bar-Yam said. "We are on the verge of another crisis, the third in five years, and likely to be the worst yet, capable of causing new food riots and turmoil on a par with the Arab Spring."


Still, these things need triggers. It's like wildfires - their frequency goes up in hot drought conditions, but you also need a match or lightning strike to set one off.

In this case, we're also making things worse by growing corn for auto fuel.

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
19. I don't understand why they giva a crap about what a right wing evangelical group says about anythin
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:12 AM
Sep 2012

I'm sure Media for Christ criticizes everybody for something if they don't buy into their fake "Christian" bias....as they sit at the titty bar waiting to pay their favorite "dancers". These extreme "Christian" groups do everything but follow Christ's teachings. Look how they are spending the money they probably begged for on national television for feeding the hungry and healing the sick and underprivileged. They are spreading hate and lies. Some would call this the work of the devil. It's a typical power play born of GOP mental illness.

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
20. Any government funding this unholy group is getting should be cut off immediately.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:18 AM
Sep 2012

They are using our hard earned tax dollars to represent some kind of quacky, kkk, nra, nazi, skinhead anti-everything and everyone crap that the majority of Americans do NOT support. They are trying to spread their poison internationally and have been doing it for years. I wouldn't want to be them when they go in front of St. Peter. Let them pay for the damages and the funeral costs of the Americans.

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