Manafort ordered to serve an additional 43 months in prison

[pnwmom]

Source: CNN

Manafort ordered to serve an additional 43 months in prison

Judge Amy Berman Jackson has ordered Paul Manafort to serve an additional 43 months in prison, on top of his sentence he received last week from the court in Virginia.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/paul-manafort-sentencing-dc/index.html

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BOTTOM LINE:

LAST WEEK HE GOT 47 MONTHS. THIS WEEK HE GOT 73 MONTHS, WITH 30 MONTHS CONCURRENT.

47 + 43 90 MONTHS, OR 7.5 YEARS ON ALL COUNTS, BOTH TRIALS



On Twitter, Zoe Tillman's long, minute-by-minute thread for BuzzFeed News is linked here:

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[div class"excerpt"]Remorse was "completely absent" from Manafort's sentencing submissions, the judge said, and she disapprovingly noted the effort to argue that it was only because the special counsel got involved that Manafort faced criminal charges

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Jackson: "Mr. Manafort, I don't want to belititle or minimize the discomfort of prison for you. It is hard on everyone, young and old, rich and poor."



[div class"excerpt"]Zoe Tillman

BREAKING: Paul Manafort has been sentenced to:
- Count 1: 60 months, with 30 months concurrent with EDVA sentence
- Count 2: 13 months, to run consecutive to count 1 and the EDVA sentence

[PeeJ52]

1. Could this be a crescendo???

It sure seems to be building...

[DirtEdonE]

2. "He does though, appear to have brought real skill, structure, to the latest campaign," Jackson said

What the hell does that or taking care of his niece have to do with anything?

His age makes him unlikely to commit further crimes?

I don't like the way this is going. Expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed.

This traitor will be in a country club or out in time for next Christmas.

[PeeJ52]

17. I believe tRump said he barely knew him and he only served a short while...

Manafort barely had anything to do with the campaign according to tRump.

[DirtEdonE]

37. That's a great point

Funny how Judge Berman Jackson could get it so wrong according to trump.

ts ellis iii - we know what we were dealing with there.

I have zero faith in Berman Jackson tomorrow re: roger stone or at any time in the future any longer. If ellis is the example of a conservative federal judge and Berman Jackson is the example of a liberal judge then we're finished. Period.

U.S. "justice" was always skewed to the wealthy but it has become the near exclusive provenance of those who can afford it.

Makes Pottersville look like paradise.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Note: For his Safety.

Russian/Ukrainian Mafia?

[efhmc]

4. My prediction is 10 years with concurring sentences.

nt

[PeeJ52]

5. BS...

I wanna be rich...

[DirtEdonE]

38. And white. And repubican.

Rich white Democrats don't get this treatment.

[leftynyc]

6. So about 7 years total

That actually sounds about right.

[yaesu]

7. I'm sure there will be a gofundme page so he can afford new golf clubs & balls for his stay

but who are we kidding, tRump, the unimpeachable president, will just pardon him anyway.

[Hortensis]

10. :) "USG filed for $24M in restitution to the banks he defrauded yesterday..."

Link to tweet

Even outraged trumpsters aren't going to donate what he needs. And probably very few Americans out of all of us are really going to be outraged on his behalf.

[pnwmom]

15. Good to know. Thanks for posting.

[Hortensis]

30. Also remembering Manafort was with Trump during

much of the Trump-Russia phase of the campaign. He did not cooperate with Mueller, yet to this point Mueller has only indicted him for his own financial crimes. It's not over until it's over.

"Any conspiracy, collusion... was not presented in this case," she said. "Therefore it was not resolved by this case." Judge Jackson.

Itm, hope his gout is just as bad as he says it is.

[pnwmom]

31. And have you heard about NY state just stepping in with new charges? Wow. n/t

[Hortensis]

42. LOVED the timing of the message.

[George II]

8. So it looks like he's getting a total of 90 months counting last week's sentence....

...the judge last week also gave him credit for 9 months, which nets out to be 81 months. That's three months shy of 7 years.

[pnwmom]

9. The 9 month credit is the only part that makes sense, unfortunately. nt

[angrychair]

11. Rich and white makes it alright

24 yrs minimum in guidance.. so 7 years sounds fair for a rich white dude.

[DirtEdonE]

12. Bottom line

"she" sentenced him to less time than ts ellis iii.

I guess we're getting great again again.

What another fucking disgrace.

[pnwmom]

14. For 2 felonies as opposed to Ellis's 8. n/t

[DirtEdonE]

39. For 43 months as opposed to ellis' 47

This is like playing with statistics.

I get right to the bottom line. This asshole manafort got away with murder and the federal sentencing farce we just witnessed sent a clear message to everyone else in the traitor's party that they don't have a lot to worry about from the federal courts.

[pnwmom]

40. 2 felonies should get significantly less time than 8 felonies. nt

Look at what he was charged with in her court -- each carried a maximum of 5 years. He wasn't charged with murder.

[DirtEdonE]

41. Whatever you need to excuse the inescusable nt

[Turbineguy]

13. 7.5 years

That's likely half of what life he has left. In that context it's a pretty stiff sentence. And then there's the Ukrainians. He may have problems over there to take up what's left.

[Calista241]

16. Trump will probably commute his sentence as opposed to pardoning him.

He’ll do it after the Mueller report comes out.

[PeeJ52]

18. So how much time will he actually have to serve what with good behavior? 2 years maybe?

Maybe he could get out in time to run tRump's 2020 campaign...

[pnwmom]

19. Under the Federal system he'll still have to serve most of this. n/t

[Honeycombe8]

25. With time served, and time off for good behavior...he'll serve maybe 5 years? 5 1/2?

Of course Trump will spring him in some way.

Trump: "He got a light sentence. Very light. Believe me, if what he was charged with was serious, they would've sentenced him to many many more years than that. But the whole thing was rigged, to begin with. Even with teh rigging of such a fine man...a fine man...all they could do was give him this light sentence with all the fake evidence."

[Massacure]

44. He'll have to serve a minimum of 60 months (5 years)

As a rule of thumb, Federal prisons must usually serve 85% of their sentence before being eligible for early release, though Trump recently signed a piece of legislation that allows elderly prisoners to be released after serving 2/3 of their sentence.

[old guy]

20. I think the question of the day for me is,

Did the judge slap the same wrist as the previous judge or has he now been slapped on both wrists?

[Honeycombe8]

21. So despite the Judge's words, another light sentence.

Both sentences combined don't equal the recommended standard minimum, even. Seven 1/2 years combined, less time served, less time off for good behavior. He'll serve less than 6 years. (Running concurrent doesn't count; that only matters if you violate probation or commit a crime in prison. Then they'll backtrack and tack on some of that concurrent time he didn't have to serve.)

I guess his crimes weren't very serious, like I thought.

He can even run for political office when he gets out. He'll be 75.

[pnwmom]

22. Not especially light for the 2 felonies. Ellis's was light for the 8. n/t

[Honeycombe8]

26. I don't count "concurrent." He got 43 months for these crimes.

Less than the recommended sentence.

[TwilightZone]

33. No, it was less than the *maximum* sentence.

Just because you don't think the concurrent part is relevant doesn't mean that it isn't within sentencing guidelines. As the judge noted, part of the sentence was concurrent because the conspiracy charge overlapped with conduct he'd already been sentenced for in VA.

"First, Jackson said, the conspiracy count against Manafort in DC overlapped with conduct he’d already been sentenced for in Virginia. Because of that, she said, much of her new sentence for that count — 2 and a half years — had to be served concurrently with the existing Virginia sentence."

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/13/18264011/paul-manafort-mueller-sentence-amy-berman-jackson

[pnwmom]

43. Thanks for the info, TwilightZone. I hadn't seen this before, and it makes sense. nt

[Grasswire2]

29. when a person can get twenty years for $10,000 simple theft?

Makes zero sense.

[Hortensis]

23. Hopefully, injustices of vast sentencing disparities will backfire on the Republicans

at the polls.

In December McConnell et al made a big deal of criminal justice reform. I wondered why they suddenly cared after 30 years of the viciously punitive legislation they wrote, thinking maybe it was just show for the eventual elections in general. But maybe they addressed sentencing reform for the 99% then because they had reason to believe these extremely light, extremely public sentences -- and others -- were coming and needed to offset potential outrage.

They do this kind of thing all the time, but we miss most of it. A bit over a decade ago, McConnell et al and right wing media suddenly stopped using flag burnings to rabblerouse and claim they were not protected free speech under the First Amendment, so they disappeared as an issue. Turned out, it was all because Citizens United with its claim that unlimited political donations were guaranteed free speech was about to be heard in SCOTUS.

[Tom Rinaldo]

24. There almost never is Justice for "White Collar" crime in America.

Not compared to the sentences given for the crimes that the non affluent are convicted of anyway. That on top of the relative leniency whites receive compared to other races.

But 7 years in federal prison will not be experienced as a slap on the the wrist for a man like Manaford. It will feel like Hell to him, even if he is confined to one of the less severe prisons. He will not be the same when he gets out, if he gets out alive.

Meanwhile, on the political front, the judge in this case just ripped any possible"victim" status away from Manaford by not totally throwing the book at him. Team Trump wanted to make it look like a "liberal" judge was persecuting Manaford, now it will be a greater stretch for them to make that case. And Manaford got enough time behind bars cumulatively to resend the message that those who do not cooperate with the Special Counsel will regret it.

Now Trump can no longer dangle pardons to those he wants to silence at little or no expense. Now he either follows through on that executive action and faces all the heat that will come his way for doing so, or he lets Manaford rot in jail, which will make any further dangling of a pardon to anyone into a toothless hollow gesture

[Honeycombe8]

27. Manafort is a martyr, notwithstanding any sentence.

I can hear it now:

Trump: "Manafort...such a fine man...a fine man....these charges were fake...it was all rigged against him...but even with all the rigging and the lies, the most they could do was sentence him to a very light sentence...it was less than even the minimum recommended!...that's because the evidence was so fake, so fake...he'll be able to go back to his poor wife soon, where he should be...such a fine man...he only worked on my campaign a very short time, but he's a fine man."

[Grasswire2]

28. why so little time for defrauding American taxpayers of $60M...

....when a poor slob can get life for stealing three consecutive pizzas???

[Traildogbob]

34. WOW

So, a party that commits treason, gives trillions to billionaires, plan to cut over a trillion in Medicare, Medicade and Social Security, rapes and sells young girls, pay for elite college degrees, sells off federal land to gas and oil, signs bibles, a frudulent president and family that robs us and lies every other word, is in cohorts with enemy countries and dictators, has 98% approval from that party, it's base is poor with no help in sight, every TV commercial is for Pharma and cancer treatment no one can afford, that party spews the carcinogens into our air, water and food and the opposing party that represents over 65% of the country can not agree on a candidate and the likelihood of winning the election in 2020 is looking dim. God be Blessin AmurKKKa. MAGA, Be Best. I win longest, sentence of the day. Deeemocrasizing us in plain view, and we cheer.

[pnwmom]

35. She wasn't sentencing for those crimes. That was Ellis's job. But the real problem

is that no one should be facing serious prison time for trivial offenses.

[Stuart G]

32. This is coming to Trump family in my opinion. When? No one knows. How will it end? same as above

Why do I believe that?...Because ultimately the Trumps are to blame for all of this. And NY state and Mueller will get the Trumps. Also, the key to all of this:

The Trump family has broken a number of laws, and the prosecutors will get that family..that is what they do

[nitpicker]

36. She may be bound by precedent

The 7.5 years is in the middle of the recommended sentencing range.

I don't know if there are "rules" against "piling on".

But the NY AG may not be so bound.