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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:12 AM Mar 2019

U.S. Treasury says Trump has privacy rights over any tax return request

Source: Reuters



MARCH 14, 2019 / 9:53 AM / UPDATED 18 MINUTES AGO

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury will try to shield President Donald Trump from a congressional request to see his tax returns but its efforts to protect his privacy will be the same given any taxpayer, the Treasury secretary said on Thursday.

“We will protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under their rights,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said at a hearing in the U.S. House of Representatives, saying he had met with legal experts at the Treasury Department to discuss the matter.

Reporting by Jason Lange; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama

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U.S. Treasury says Trump has privacy rights over any tax return request (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2019 OP
Bullshit Iliyah Mar 2019 #1
you took the words right out of my mouth. AllaN01Bear Mar 2019 #3
Me too. Bullshit. notdarkyet Mar 2019 #16
Oh, for crying out loud. Shell_Seas Mar 2019 #2
"We will protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under their rights,..." mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #5
I am not sure what they are, but there are exceptions ArizonaLib Mar 2019 #10
Nice try, Munchkin. Try reading the law. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #4
Per NPR "the committee access provision has never been before a federal judge." So that's ahead. ancianita Mar 2019 #7
Maybe Judge Thomas Ellis is available Nasruddin Mar 2019 #12
... ancianita Mar 2019 #15
Abuse of Power humbled_opinion Mar 2019 #6
Said for Individual1 IMO. nt SayItLoud Mar 2019 #8
Release the Subpoenas! BlueIdaho Mar 2019 #9
I'm interested in knowing why Kamala Harris protected Mnuchin The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #11
Haven't heard anything about Harris protecting Mnuchin solara Mar 2019 #14
There will be no link..... that's just the right wing attacking one of our best candidates groundloop Mar 2019 #18
You may very well be correct... AZ8theist Mar 2019 #22
Really? The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #30
It's on the homepage. So much for Harris. notdarkyet Mar 2019 #24
It is well known she could have prosecuted him, but chose not to. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #25
Citation, please? AZ8theist Mar 2019 #21
Harris Was Only 2016 Senate Democratic Candidate to Get Cash From Mnuchin BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #27
Citation below The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #31
Your source is the "Intercept"?? Seriously?? AZ8theist Mar 2019 #34
And the guy who wrote it isn't even a journalist. Check this out: MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #36
Not when criminal activities are involved duforsure Mar 2019 #13
Subpoena him, with an order to bring the returns with him CanonRay Mar 2019 #17
Criminals protecting criminals dalton99a Mar 2019 #19
Same as any taxpayer? Okay, I give my permission for congress to see mine. ffr Mar 2019 #20
I can see three other sources for his tax returns Bayard Mar 2019 #23
Bullshit! Sorry about the language but privacy is a lower priority then the self-dealing, and SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #26
There's always his NYS tax returns. rickford66 Mar 2019 #28
Good Forbes article on whether Congress can subpoena the Idiot's tax returns onetexan Mar 2019 #29
WHAT'S HE HIDING? leftynyc Mar 2019 #32
Gauntlet thrown. Let the fight begin Arazi Mar 2019 #33
The Treasury Depertment is under the Executive Branch. briv1016 Mar 2019 #35

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,376 posts)
5. "We will protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under their rights,..."
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:19 AM
Mar 2019

That sounds right to me.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
10. I am not sure what they are, but there are exceptions
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:34 AM
Mar 2019

Various offices in law enforcement can have access to personal and business returns under various circumstances - I would think congress could also. Individual tax rights only completely hold up if no suspicion of wrongdoing exists. Suspicion/investigation of tax fraud throws out most statutes of limitations, etc. Not only that, but if congress subpoenas the president's tax returns, even if he resists, he maybe compelled - by that time the supreme court may not feel Trump is worth risking the court's standing by defending him, especially based on that Trump has not given any good reason to keep those records private - tax records for decades have been volunteered by all serious presidential candidates and presidents, so it is not out of the ordinary to provide them. If his attorneys use the excuse that his records are under review/audit by the IRS, he will need to produce all of the correspondence (not just a notice letter) dating from the initial notice letter, all of the years since he has claimed his records were under examination, through current to show they would be unavailable because of a review/audit. A normal review could go as far back as 5 - 7 years. A review going further back is fraud. Last I heard, statute of limitations for examinations go back 7 years - except in the case of fraud.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Nice try, Munchkin. Try reading the law.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:19 AM
Mar 2019
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/11/656610711/congress-really-can-demand-and-get-trumps-tax-returns-here-s-how

...When the "committee access" provision, as it's known, became law in 1924, Congress had been dealing with taxpayers' information in the Teapot Dome scandal afflicting the Harding administration and in a controversy involving former Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. Like Trump, he had served in government while refusing to avoid conflicts of interest by letting go of his holdings.

The committee access provision has rarely been invoked, but here's how it would work...

ancianita

(36,014 posts)
7. Per NPR "the committee access provision has never been before a federal judge." So that's ahead.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:29 AM
Mar 2019

It's what litigious trumpanzees do.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
6. Abuse of Power
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:27 AM
Mar 2019

tRump told Treasury to bury the returns, with a wink and a nod. I am telling you now, watch for Shenanigans by the DOJ, FBI, IRS, etc during this upcoming campaign, dangerous tRump will use all levers of government to attack his political opposition, typical dictatorial style.

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
11. I'm interested in knowing why Kamala Harris protected Mnuchin
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:35 AM
Mar 2019

And received money from him for her Senate campaign.

solara

(3,836 posts)
14. Haven't heard anything about Harris protecting Mnuchin
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:58 AM
Mar 2019

and taking money from him

Where did this story come from? Can you share the link?

Thanks

AZ8theist

(5,449 posts)
34. Your source is the "Intercept"?? Seriously??
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 01:19 AM
Mar 2019

Founded by Glenn Greenwald, who to this day says Russia had no interference in our election in 2016??

Seriously??

"FACT" my ass.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
36. And the guy who wrote it isn't even a journalist. Check this out:
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:28 AM
Mar 2019

The intercept article is basically circular propaganda.

https://medium.com/kimbocoffin/the-story-behind-the-story-of-kamala-harris-and-steve-mnuchin-f58f64a5ec7f

Here we have this white bro David Dayden, who does not have journalist credentials but instead has made his living as a writer for far left propaganda publications, writing for the Intercept. He obviously doesn’t even contact Harris’ office for this story (because, again, he’s not an actual journalist), gets NO independent corroboration for any of his claims, yet his hack POS article gets repeated by all the other white bros (who are also not actual journalists) and picked up by other publications to the point where this same Dayden hack propaganda piece is essentially a firewall against finding ANY other story about her written by an actual journalist or analyst on the subject when you do a google search, but the piece is referred to under different names, so it looks like a bunch of different independently corroborated accounts. However, they all just circle back to this Dayden piece.

much more at link

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/21/1827095/-Kamala-Harris-and-the-big-lie-that-she-didn-t-prosecute-Mnuchin?

First and foremost, let’s point out that of all the attorney generals and elected representatives in the country during the financial crisis, there was ONE who chose to investigate and who went after the banks for a settlement. That was Kamala Harris. She didn’t get any prosecutions or convictions, but she did strong-arm the banks into turning a $2 billion settlement proposal into $25 billion of immediate payments.

This can’t be overlooked. Sen. Harris was entirely responsible for pulling out of negotiations in 2011 in order to force the banks to pay more. And it worked. So before you get all high and mighty about how you would have for sure jailed some bankers, weigh what good it did California families to get $25 billion compared to what they would have gotten from watching a complex civil proceeding play out over five years.

She got money to people losing their homes, and that was more important.


On the OneWest issue, it’s a misnomer (ie, lie) that Harris “didn’t prosecute Mnuchin.” He was never under investigation, and Harris didn’t receive a referral to criminally prosecute anyone. What she got was a recommendation to file a civil enforcement action against OneWest. In such a filing, no one person is accused of anything. Instead, an entire company is looked at, and perhaps fined for wrongdoing.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
13. Not when criminal activities are involved
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:43 AM
Mar 2019

Which will be easily proven , and if he suggested or threatened this by saying something to Mnunchin , that's more obstruction , and conspiracy to do so. This will not be accepted as law using this, and make those behind it look even more guilty. The head of the Treasury will be also in deep , deep trouble too from this.

CanonRay

(14,094 posts)
17. Subpoena him, with an order to bring the returns with him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:21 AM
Mar 2019

When he fails to comply, cite him for Contempt of Congress and throw his ass in a cell.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
20. Same as any taxpayer? Okay, I give my permission for congress to see mine.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
Mar 2019

Now, let them see tRumps so he's like me.

Bayard

(22,038 posts)
23. I can see three other sources for his tax returns
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:30 AM
Mar 2019

His accountant that prepares his taxes, and possibly the CFO of his companies?

Any financial institution that he's applied to for his business ventures. Maxine Waters is already working with Deutsche Bank.

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
26. Bullshit! Sorry about the language but privacy is a lower priority then the self-dealing, and
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:34 AM
Mar 2019

stuffing his pockets constantly with our tax dollars. There is a higher duty to Country and not one's privacy, especially when you're the so called president of the country. Revealing all about one's self is one's supreme duty to this country, especially if you are the chief executive.

What are you hiding!

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