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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:12 PM

 

Mosque shooting: Gunman livestreamed shooting, has 37-page manifesto

Source: nzherald.co.nz

A horrific shooting at a Christchurch mosque was livestreamed for 17 minutes by the gunman.

The livestream began as the gunman drove to the Al Noor Mosque in Deans Ave, parking his car in a nearby driveway.

The beige stationwagon contains a cache of weapons and ammunition in the front passenger seat and boot, along with petrol cannisters.

Read more: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213076

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Reply Mosque shooting: Gunman livestreamed shooting, has 37-page manifesto (Original post)
IH8TU Mar 2019 OP
sakabatou Mar 2019 #1
allgood33 Mar 2019 #49
Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #55
Eko Mar 2019 #2
ZZenith Mar 2019 #6
TwilightZone Mar 2019 #7
Devil Child Mar 2019 #9
MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #56
Devil Child Mar 2019 #58
MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #59
dalton99a Mar 2019 #20
Eko Mar 2019 #23
AmandaRuth Mar 2019 #25
rickyhall Mar 2019 #33
Progressive Jones Mar 2019 #38
ZZenith Mar 2019 #3
TwilightZone Mar 2019 #5
rpannier Mar 2019 #13
MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #57
Miguel M Mar 2019 #4
still_one Mar 2019 #8
IronLionZion Mar 2019 #10
BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #11
TreasonousBastard Mar 2019 #19
ArizonaLib Mar 2019 #37
BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #48
KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #12
wysi Mar 2019 #14
KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #22
wysi Mar 2019 #24
Rollo Mar 2019 #36
Cha Mar 2019 #41
Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2019 #15
wysi Mar 2019 #18
herding cats Mar 2019 #30
treestar Mar 2019 #53
DVDGuy Mar 2019 #67
mobeau69 Mar 2019 #16
dustyscamp Mar 2019 #21
Behind the Aegis Mar 2019 #17
IcyPeas Mar 2019 #26
dustyscamp Mar 2019 #27
IcyPeas Mar 2019 #28
dustyscamp Mar 2019 #29
herding cats Mar 2019 #31
Cha Mar 2019 #43
yaesu Mar 2019 #32
jcmaine72 Mar 2019 #34
Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #39
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #50
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dalton99a Mar 2019 #35
canetoad Mar 2019 #40
nitpicker Mar 2019 #42
nitpicker Mar 2019 #44
nitpicker Mar 2019 #45
nitpicker Mar 2019 #46
nitpicker Mar 2019 #47
leftynyc Mar 2019 #51
MissMillie Mar 2019 #52
Oneironaut Mar 2019 #54
Miguel Smith Mar 2019 #60
dustyscamp Mar 2019 #66
MicaelS Mar 2019 #61
Dave Starsky Mar 2019 #62
MicaelS Mar 2019 #63
Dave Starsky Mar 2019 #65
IcyPeas Mar 2019 #64

Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:14 PM

1. O.O

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:45 AM

49. They took it down because Trump is named as one of his heroes.

 

It should be widespread so society can hold the hateful idols to account for their words of hate. I am sure at some point it will be leaked. Why would the media hid it from us? It is important for the world to know the source of the venom.

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Response to allgood33 (Reply #49)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:05 PM

55. I saw he also named famous youtube gamer pewpewdie

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Response to Eko (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:19 PM

6. Started to read it and thought, "You know what?"

“Fuck that guy. I am not gonna read a word he wrote. There is NOTHING such a person can teach me about anything.”

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:21 PM

7. I got to 28-year-old white guy and the "save the whites" nonsense

and I pretty much knew all I needed to.

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Response to Eko (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:28 PM

9. Reads like someone inspired by Brevik in Norway

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:10 PM

56. I was thinking Charles Manson

He just wants Balkanization and race war akin to Helter Skelter.

His politics seems to be where the radical left and radical right meet — anti capitalist, pro communist (China) and then off the chart racist.

In reflection, it’s a bit like Mein Kampf — socialism mixed with racism.

Should serve to unite the right and the left to police ourselves of our loons.

Of course, we don’t do that. Both sides seem to be listening to their lesser angels.

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Response to MosheFeingold (Reply #56)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:30 PM

58. Good observations MosheFeingold

It is a strange mash-up of views. Heavily saturated with that helter-skelter mindset. He was definitely an adherent to that warped 4/8chans philosophy of instilling accelerationist chaos so they can "seize the opportunity" for their beloved race-war fantasies.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #58)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:57 PM

59. Somebody called him

A very racist Bernie Sanders.

That’s probably an OK analogy, albeit imperfect.

Would make sense to those who haven’t read Hitlers similar nonsensical screed.

Or who don’t know what Manson was trying to do.

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Response to Eko (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

20. I read it.

Stupid piece of trash

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 AM

23. Yup.

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Response to Eko (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

25. good lord

shooter said he supported Donald Trump "as a symbol of white identity and common purpose".

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Response to AmandaRuth (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:17 AM

33. God damn Trump, please.

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Response to Eko (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:11 AM

38. It's been taken down.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:17 PM

3. Let me guess - the shooter's a "Christian."

Just trying to “protect his culture.”

God, please save us from such people.

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:19 PM

5. Yep. 28-year-old white guy...

and a white supremacist, according to the manifesto linked above.

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:51 PM

13. There are good people on both sides

I wonder which side il douche thinks this guy is on?

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:12 PM

57. Nope

Expressly disclaimed Christianity as Jewish nonsense.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:23 PM

8. fucking racist piece of shit. I hope they burn the asshole(s) who did this

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:29 PM

10. Right, so he's not a terrorist and has no political agenda

because "a white, 28-year-old Australian-born man."

Got it.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

11. PM Ardern's statement

"One of New Zealand's darkest days.”

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

19. Excellent response-- the way a proper leader reacts to this...

Remember when we once had such a person here?

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:03 AM

37. This is truly civil leadership that should be studied

Just watched her briefing on MSNBC - she is a leader with nothing to hide, completely honest, not trying to campaign, possessing vision of what should happen next and what citizens can do right now without suggesting doing stupid crap. Fearless, but appropriately cautious. She denounced the terrible acts as right wing extremism that has no place...if non muslims in the community want to do something, show members of the muslim community, support and compassion...after healing, this will be put behind us, and those who want to practice their religion can return to the mosques to again practice it. After a lifetime of watching all the tragedy responses by leadership from BOTH parties here in the U.S., I didn't know this kind of leadership display could exist. Seriously. Big fan of the Kennedys and Obama, and still extremely impressed. God bless her.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:41 AM

48. +1

Very impressed by her. Like Obama, she is a ray of light, not someone who adds to the darkness.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:51 PM

12. Live reports from two sources say shootings at two mosques.

Live updated stream on the Guardian UK:

Christchurch shooting: police search for gunman after mass shooting at mosque – live updates
Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/mar/15/christchurch-shooting-injuries-reported-as-police-respond-to-critical-incident-live

(Snip)
Multiple fatalities at two locations and situation ongoing, with one suspect in custody, police confirm

New Zealand police confirm that there have been multiple fatalities at two locations – one mosque on Dean’s Road and one on Linwood Avenue. The police say one suspect is in custody, but that the situation is still ongoing and it is an active shooter situation.


And....

Live: Massacre at the mosques - gunmen kill multiple people, Christchurch under siege
Link: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213039

(snip)
KEY POINTS:

• Dozens feared killed as at least two gunmen open fire at two central Christchurch mosques

• City in lockdown, with reports of a third shooting scene and a car bomb in Strickland St

• One gunman, believed to be Australian, filmed as he shot victims in the mosque - and wrote a manifesto declaring his intentions

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Sad day for what normally is a peaceful nation.......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:53 PM

14. I'm sitting here in the middle of it...

No car bomb, that was a suspect who run off the road and was apprehended/possibly killed by armed police. Might have been the one livestreaming the massacre.

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Response to wysi (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 AM

22. Thank you and stay safe!

I'm reading the entire city of Christchurch is/was on lockdown, something that's almost unheard of. I fear the reports tomorrow will be horrible and nerves will be on edge for a long time.

What I just saw on The Guardian:
What we know so far

* Multiple people have been shot dead in shootings at two mosques in theNew Zealand city of Christchurch during Friday afternoon prayers. A car with explosives inside was intercepted by police nearby
* One suspect is in custody but police warned they are still tracing an active shooter. Police commissioner Mike Bush said: “Close your doors until you hear from us again.”


May peace and quiet return to you soon.......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 AM

24. Thanks...

... the mosque where the perp livestreamed from is just around the corner from my house. Unlikely I'll make it home this evening.

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Response to wysi (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:03 AM

36. Take care. The shooter who live streamed his mass murder was shooting down the block ...

The live stream has been popping up on Youtube, but doesn't last long before it is yanked by Youtube for violent and graphic content. I found one that is 16 min long and yes, it's horrific. Really really horrific. It will haunt me, I'm certain.

He also shot a poor woman on the sidewalk who was probably just arriving for the Friday services. She may have been the last of many, but it was particularly disturbing. He shot her first from about 20 feet away, she fell at the curb, and then he walked briskly up to her, listened to her cries for help, and finished her off.

Ugh.

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Response to wysi (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:55 AM

41. ..

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

15. And that shithead in the WH will politicize this in 4 . . . 3 . . . 2 . . .

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:14 AM

18. He already has...

Twitler retweeted something from Breitbart, apparently.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:18 AM

30. This one is going to be tricky for them.

The New Zealand mosque shooter said he supported Donald Trump "as a symbol of white identity and common purpose."


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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:12 AM

53. The NRA too, if NZ has gun control laws

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Response to treestar (Reply #53)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:59 PM

67. New Zealand Gun Laws

New Zealand has much less strict gun laws than Australia, despite various attempts in recent times to toughen the laws. The shooter's guns were all legally purchased. Various groups, including the police, in particular, have tried to push for universal registration and reclassification of certain rifles, such as AR-15 style ones, from the current 'A' category to the more restricted 'E' category (military-style semi-automatics). These attempts have failed due to high court challenges made by the NZ equivalent of the NRA, the New Zealand National Shooters Association.

'A' category rifles are limited to only 7 rounds, but it looks like the shooter was able to simply use a higher capacity magazine to turn his 'A' category rifle into a more restricted 'E' category one. This is considered a loophole in the law, which some say have been put in deliberately by the gun lobby, which "helped" to write the current laws. More information here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Zealand

It says something that this Australian guy couldn't do what he did in his own country because of the tough gun laws here (I'm Australian), so he had to choose another country to act out his evil fantasies. Gun control works, and it looks like NZ will get getting much tougher ones pretty soon (but sadly, not soon enough).

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

16. TVNZ: One man in custody. 9 confirmed dead so far. Entire city on lockdown.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

21. There will be more than 9 sadly :(

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:05 AM

17. Disgusting!

I am shocked by the location, not the hate; sadly, that doesn't shock me anymore.

I hope the NZ communities come together and help their fellow citizens in their time of need.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:38 AM

26. N.Z. police said 4 people have been arrested....

3 men and 1 woman. Watching on BBC world news.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 AM

27. Was there another incident? I only saw one guy shooting in the livestream video

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Response to dustyscamp (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:57 AM

28. 2 mosques were targeted in Christchurch.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:06 AM

29. ah

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:23 AM

31. My heart is with everyone impacted by this blatant act of hate tonight.

I'm not religious, but I try to be moral and am deeply empathetic. I'm so sorry to everyone and my heart breaks with all the negative emotions I know this is causing.

Peace to all.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:06 AM

43. ..

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:34 AM

32. right wing racist extremism is spreading world wide & the US is the leader of that pack

its a shame that tRumps fascist republican party supports racists & islamophobes, I wonder how many other murders this crime family will get away with?

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:31 AM

34. A white man with an assault rifle...

....the greatest terrorist threat known to humankind.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #34)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:22 AM

39. Nothing more vile. n/t

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #34)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:15 AM

50. No. The man adored by the NRA & tells biker gangs to rise up to defend him is the greater threat. nt

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:59 AM

35. .


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:42 AM

40. Was preparing to excoriate you for posting Daily Mail headline

But yes, it appears to be true. Apologies.

What we know so far

*40 people confirmed dead as at least two gunmen opened fire at two central Christchurch mosques

*Four suspects apprehended, one of whom has been confirmed as an Australian

*One gunman, believed to be Australian, filmed the scene as he shot victims in the mosque. A manifesto outlining his plan was also circulated online.

*TVNZ reporting 48 people are being treated for gunshot wounds at Christchurch Hospital, 20 of whom have serious injuries

*School lockdowns have been lifted but NZ police have advised all mosques to close their doors until further notice

https://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/christchurch-shooting-live-several-reported-dead-as-new-zealand-mosques-attacked-20190315-p514jg.html

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:09 AM

44. More from The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/multiple-fatalities-gunman-christchurch-mosque-shooting

Dozens killed after gunman opens fire in two Christchurch mosques

Forty people have been shot dead and 20 injured in attacks at two mosques during Friday afternoon prayers in Christchurch in what is the worst mass shooting in New Zealand’s history.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said it was “one of New Zealand’s darkest days” as police uncovered multiple explosive devices attached to cars and commissioner Mike Bush urged all mosques across the country to close their doors for the time being.

Four people were taken into custody – three men and one woman – for what Ardern described as a terrorist attack. One person was later released. Ardern condemned the ideology of the people behind the shootings, saying: “You may have chosen us but we utterly reject and condemn you.

New Zealand’s threat level has been raised from low to high and none of the suspects were on terrorism watchlists, Ardern said.
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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:10 AM

45. BBC radio update

Death toll now up to 49.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:21 AM

46. Link to BBC live thread

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-47578860

(snip)

Posted at 3:54

Hospital urges people not to visit patients

Christchurch Hospital has issued a statement confirming it's treating 48 patients for gunshot wounds "ranging from young children to adults".

"Unless it’s essential, we ask that people don’t come to visit patients," said David Meates, chief executive of Canterbury District Health Board. There are already 200 relatives on site.

To help the hospital cope, women who are due to give birth have been asked to go to local maternity units if they can.
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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:33 AM

51. I can't stop weeping

 

It's like the whole world has gone crazy.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:50 AM

52. I won't watch it and I won't read it

Because there is nothing any of them can say that justifies this. Nothing.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:23 AM

54. FreeRepublic has members gleefully cheering the attack.

I know that’s shocking. I need eyebleach now.

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #54)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:03 PM

60. They're sick

 

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #54)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:02 PM

66. We need to document their sickness and show it to the world

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:41 PM

61. If hate has spread to a place like NZ, this world is fucked.

This is the last place I would expect some kind of this shit.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #61)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:14 PM

62. Me, too.

I thought this was a disease that was confined to Russia and its vassal states: the US and, apparently now, England.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #62)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:21 PM

63. Apparently is now a worldwide phenomenon...

Wherever whites are, feel, or think they are becoming a minority and / or losing power.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #63)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:56 PM

65. I think you are right about this.

I never realized the extent of this feeling. I guess I always thought that white people always knew that they held most of the cards. They always knew that they were in control.

But now, not so much. Now people of all colors are coming in. They are making the new society. That is almost impossible for the established Fox News crowd to accept.

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Response to IH8TU (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:38 PM

64. Prime Minister latest live conference. she just said

(this is live at 1:38 PT)

New Zealand will change gun laws immediately.

watching on BBC World News because I'm not seeing much coverage on CNN or MSNBC....... trump trump trump.

if 49 people were killed in the United States...........




Imagine that!


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