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Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:21 AM

A shooting in the Dutch city of Utrecht left several people injured.

Source: New York Times




A shooting in the Dutch city of Utrecht left several people injured. The authorities said the attack was being investigated as a possible case of terrorism.

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Reply A shooting in the Dutch city of Utrecht left several people injured. (Original post)
steve2470 Mar 2019 OP
steve2470 Mar 2019 #1
Stuart G Mar 2019 #4
DFW Mar 2019 #2
Tom Rinaldo Mar 2019 #3
DFW Mar 2019 #5
cwydro Mar 2019 #10
DFW Mar 2019 #12
cwydro Mar 2019 #14
cwydro Mar 2019 #17
steve2470 Mar 2019 #18
DFW Mar 2019 #9
chowder66 Mar 2019 #7
a la izquierda Mar 2019 #21
LilithLithium Mar 2019 #6
still_one Mar 2019 #8
jcmaine72 Mar 2019 #11
Devil Child Mar 2019 #13
Tipperary Mar 2019 #15
DFW Mar 2019 #16
Sapient Donkey Mar 2019 #19
nitpicker Mar 2019 #20
DFW Mar 2019 #22

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:23 AM

1. NEW: Dutch police have launched an investigation and are also considering "a possible terrorist....

NEW: Dutch police have launched an investigation and are also considering "a possible terrorist motive" in the Utrecht tram shooting


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Response to steve2470 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:26 AM

4. According to the latest news from CNN, at least 3 people were killed.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:04 AM

2. Oh, crap, did it HAVE to be Utrecht?

That's where my Dutch office is. I'm there once a week, usually. Yes, it's full of Muslims and you see women with their heads covered everywhere. So what? They STILL haven't had anything like this in as long as I can remember. Its peaceful nature was one of the reasons we chose Utrecht in the first place.

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Response to DFW (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:23 AM

3. That's hitting pretty close to home for you

It must be very unsettling. New Zealand as well is a remarkably peaceful place. New York City is among the most multi-cultural places on earth and it famously draws attacks. Hate seems to hate most where people deem it unacceptable.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:27 AM

5. Utrecht is VERY close to home. For my 15 Dutch colleagues, it IS home

It's less than a 2 hour train ride, and the direct trains run every two hours in each direction.

The dormant Dutch far right will be rejoicing about this new injection of adrenaline for them.

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Response to DFW (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:21 AM

10. Do we know it was a right wing attack?

Iím not near a TV, so only keeping up with this on my phone.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:49 AM

12. We know it wasn't You may have gotten some signals crossed there

They have identified one shooter, who is Turkish. They are looking for him, but not excluding that there might have been more than one.

I'm saying that a shooting by a Muslim will be like golden elixir to the Dutch far right, who hasn't had much in the way of Muslim terrorism to boost their chances in the upcoming elections.

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Response to DFW (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:33 PM

14. My bad. When you mentioned it was a heavily Muslim area, I assumed.

Iím outside doing dreaded spring chores.

Checking on my phone periodically. Thanks for the update, and I see your point, sadly.

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Response to DFW (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 02:03 PM

17. My bad. When you mentioned it was a heavily Muslim area, I assumed.

Iím outside doing dreaded spring chores.

Checking on my phone periodically. Thanks for the update, and I see your point, sadly.

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Response to DFW (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:35 PM

18. I hope you and your colleagues don't have any problems

All the best to you and your family

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:08 AM

9. I just talked to my office in Utrecht. A LOT closer to home than I imagined.

The tram where the shooting occurred is the same tram two children of the director of my office there (and a close friend) take to school every day. The shooting started about two hours after they had gotten off at their school. Everything is closed and blocked off, and he is on the way to pick them up from school, which is on lockdown. The tram is on the Utrecht-IJsselstein line, which I have taken, myself, on occasion. VERY close to home.

I have friends who work in the Dutch top anti-terror paramilitary unit, and I suppose that when they are released from duty (and authorized to speak to civilians from other countries--IF they ever are) that I will hear some other details that weren't on CNN.

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Response to DFW (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:37 AM

7. I love Utrecht. Went there when a teen. Used to take the tram to the Utrecht shopping center.

I was sad to wake up to the news.

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Response to DFW (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 02:49 PM

21. I was on my way to the train...

To head to the university to work for the day. But I heard the news first, so I stayed behind.
Crazy.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:29 AM

6. So far 3 dead, 9 injured

I'm worried this is going to influence the Provincial election results this Wednesday ...

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:02 AM

8. Reports are saying they are looking for a 37-year old Turkish man in connection with the shooting

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Response to still_one (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:34 AM

11. Well, I guess we already know then which direction Faux News and the like will take this story.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:16 PM

13. Islamist terrorist attack

Most likely in reaction to the recent white nationalist terrorism in NZ. Suspect had criminal history and ties to IS and Chechnya.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

15. Well, that explains why there is nothing about it in gd.

I would not have expected something like this in the Netherlands. It seems nowhere is safe anymore. This is very sad.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 01:39 PM

16. Unfortunately, the Netherlands is an ideal place for something like this

It has several advantages for bad guys. Its huge Muslim immigrant population means no one gives a Middle-Eastern person a second look, as they have blended in, especially in a university town like Utrecht.

Unlike France and Belgium, firearms are practically forbidden to the civilian population in the Netherlands, but the border between Belgium and the Netherlands is so open as to practically not exist. The anti-terror cops in Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands have foiled some planned attacks in the past year, but have kept their successes on a low key, so as not to publicly taunt others who hadn't yet decided to go off the deep end.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 02:34 AM

19. Where did you get the information the guy is muslim and did this in the name of Islam?

Other than him being from Turkey, I haven't seen much information on him or his motive.


*Just to be clear, I asked for similar clarification from people when news of the NZ shoots first broke and people immediately blamed white nationalists for it. Grant you that turned out to be the case, but at that moment a lot of folks were just making assumptions.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:29 AM

20. Update from DW

https://www.dw.com/en/three-dead-in-utrecht-shooting-suspect-in-custody/a-47960337

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A gunman opened fire on a tram in the central Dutch city of Utrecht on Monday, killing at least three people and wounding five, said city Mayor Jan van Zanen.

"We sympathize with those close to the victims, the injured and all the people who were at the shooting incident this morning. We must embrace each other and support those who grieve," van Zanen said.

Police then launched a city-wide manhunt for the assailant, who was detained around 6:30 pm local time (17:36 UTC), eight hours after the shooting.

Utrecht police had released a photo of the suspect earlier on Monday, naming him as GŲkmen Tanis, a 37-year-old native of Turkey.
(snip)

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 03:07 PM

22. It appears that one of the men killed was the 49 year old father of my friend's son's classmate.

Closer and closer to home as this continues.

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