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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,359 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:03 PM Mar 2019

Mueller report sent to attorney general, signaling his Russia investigation has ended

Last edited Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

National Security
Mueller report sent to attorney general, signaling his Russia investigation has ended

By Devlin Barrett and Matt Zapotosky
March 22 at 5:02 PM

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has submitted a confidential report to Attorney General William P. Barr, marking the end of his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible obstruction of justice by President Trump, a Justice Department spokeswoman said.

The Justice Department notified Congress late Friday that it had received Mueller's report but did not describe its contents. Barr is expected to summarize the findings for lawmakers in coming days.

The submission of Mueller's report marks the culmination of his closely held inquiry, a case that has engulfed the Trump administration since its inception and led to multiple guilty pleas from former advisers to the president. With the closing of his investigation, Congress and the newly empowered Democratic House majority will soon assess his findings - and determine what steps to take next.
....

Devlin Barrett writes about national security and law enforcement for The Washington Post. He has previously worked at the Wall Street Journal, the Associated Press and the New York Post, where he started as a copy boy. Follow https://twitter.com/DevlinBarrett

Matt Zapotosky covers the Justice Department for The Washington Post's national security team. He has previously worked covering the federal courthouse in Alexandria and local law enforcement in Prince George's County and Southern Maryland. Follow https://twitter.com/mattzap

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/03/22/special-counsel-mueller-has-submitted-a-report-to-the-attorney-general-signaling-the-end-of-his-russia-investigation/



There's a thread in GD too, with discussion. Blue Adept posted it at 5:00 p.m.

BREAKING: The House Judiciary Committee is told to expect notification by 5pm that the Mueller rpt.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211942761

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Special counsel Mueller has submitted a report to the attorney general, signaling the end of his Russia investigation




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The article has already updated within the last three minutes. Here's the original post:

Politics
Special counsel Mueller has submitted a report to the attorney general, signaling the end of his Russia investigation
By Washington Post Staff
March 22 at 5:02 PM

The contents of the highly anticipated report from Robert S. Mueller III were not immediately known, but its submission signals the culmination of the nearly two-year probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election -- a case that has consumed Washington and led to multiple guilty pleas from former advisers to President Trump.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.
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Mueller report sent to attorney general, signaling his Russia investigation has ended (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 OP
Preparing to be disappointed. But hoping I'm wrong. mainer Mar 2019 #1
Me, too. No indictments of the family does not bode well. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #32
No indictments by Mueller. He may have recommended DoJ indict them, and there are the states. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #48
Email by spokesman I THINK says "No," in response to question... Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #54
Since report is under wraps, there won't be much news anyway, for now. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #55
True. But we do know that Mueller didn't indict any of the family. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #84
Sorry, but your assumptions are mistaken. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2019 #101
If you mean this exchange, all it says is no guidance about report, NOT IN report. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #58
We know that Mueller's team did not indict any of the family. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #83
We must remember what Rosenstein said earlier yaesu Mar 2019 #63
What does that have to do with my "no indictments" post? nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #67
that we shouldn't be surprised when the report flops when it comes to indictments, we were warned.nt yaesu Mar 2019 #69
The family indictments keith sw Mar 2019 #76
Expect the worst but hope for the best. Kablooie Mar 2019 #42
For me, close to "worst" has happened. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #68
Maybe... dvduval Mar 2019 #43
+1000 Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #57
Yep. Wondering about that myself. calimary Mar 2019 #92
Just saw the breaking BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #2
Oh, you can't take the time to eat, not with Trump in office. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #8
Oh what I am making is not for today BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #12
I had my typin' boots on. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #15
LOL BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #25
Hope that it wasn't your head Fritz Walter Mar 2019 #19
It was a Pillsbury recipe BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #29
I'm hungry now. :) Kurt V. Mar 2019 #31
It looks good too. BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #34
It was the gas, not the appliance jmowreader Mar 2019 #41
"The gas we use now is mostly methane plus methyl mercaptan for stench." BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #77
Propane, butane and methane are all simple asphyxiants jmowreader Mar 2019 #80
I know what they are BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #82
Barr has it now. The moron is off to FL. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #3
Now it's a matter of if we get to see it, and how much of it Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #4
Don't worry, SOMEBODY will leak it FakeNoose Mar 2019 #10
2015: We got him! mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #16
2019 We might get him next year! FakeNoose Mar 2019 #20
We've got him for at least - CentralMass Mar 2019 #30
Starr's report was posted on the internet, why not Mueller? Lady_Chat Mar 2019 #35
Different law. n/t Igel Mar 2019 #47
Correct. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #50
Unless it's to a Dem DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #100
different law... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #51
Thanks for the reply Lady_Chat Mar 2019 #59
revealing what a partisan pervert barbtries Mar 2019 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Yonnie3 Mar 2019 #5
no new indictments, that bugs me Hamlette Mar 2019 #6
We don't know that yet. Indictments are separate events. ancianita Mar 2019 #11
me too. barbtries Mar 2019 #39
And all the open / ongoing investigations? cilla4progress Mar 2019 #7
NYT edit elleng Mar 2019 #9
Thanks for posting that. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #17
You're welcome. elleng Mar 2019 #23
"may be reluctant to release the part of Mr. Mueller's report that may be of most interest: yaesu Mar 2019 #62
+1 dalton99a Mar 2019 #70
Bracing for the worst. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #13
It must be uneventful or it will be edited.... Chakaconcarne Mar 2019 #14
The evidence must be protected too. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #18
Hot damn, here we go Hekate Mar 2019 #21
Roll film! Fritz Walter Mar 2019 #22
So great to see this again! LuckyLib Mar 2019 #60
Here is the letter that Barr sent to Congress Gothmog Mar 2019 #24
No indictments for 45 or his spawn. AJT Mar 2019 #26
None at this time. Report may recommend indictments. Or not. Individual 1 still broke the law. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #46
Not good news AJT Mar 2019 #90
Your link does not support your assertion. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #93
We can still hope for SDNY and EDNY to go after Don Jr and Jarvanka. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #98
Really Mueller? On a Friday 'news dump' timing? (I'm hoping for fireworks, but... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2019 #27
drump's financial dealings before and after 2016 election are the main issues. MarcA Mar 2019 #28
Just want to say that We ALL hope Muellers finds tRUMP guilty BUT bluestarone Mar 2019 #33
The Justice Dept investigation ended, but I bet the Lars39 Mar 2019 #36
And Intelligence Committee in the House, if not the Senate. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #40
Yep, this isn't over yet at all. Lars39 Mar 2019 #44
Finally. SO tired of waiting on this. And not expecting any earth shattering news either. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #38
CNN is talking about the WH feeling good MontanaMama Mar 2019 #45
according to the JD playbook rules the report will not mention anyone who was not indicted yaesu Mar 2019 #52
Trying to let this go already srobertss Mar 2019 #49
"Russia investigation". What about the China investigation? "more extensive corrupt ties to China" Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #53
I wholly expect tRump to weaponize the report, use it on the campaign trail as vindication yaesu Mar 2019 #56
To his base, he's been doing that since the investigation started. n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #65
I hope Mueller's recommendation is for Trump to be impeached SkatmanRoth Mar 2019 #61
And now the wait, and the court fights.... SergeStorms Mar 2019 #64
trump is going to get off keepFocused06 Mar 2019 #66
nice try. PubliusEnigma Mar 2019 #74
Hmm. Welcome to DU. mahina Mar 2019 #88
I'm not worried. denbot Mar 2019 #71
Above all I want the truth. Yes, I also want Grumpy gone, but I want the truth judesedit Mar 2019 #72
I smell a rat. C Moon Mar 2019 #73
Flashback to Watergate nitpicker Mar 2019 #75
Unfortunatley a republican president is above the law, no democratic one would be but surely Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #78
I think I'm going to barf....... HeiressofBickworth Mar 2019 #79
The Mueller Report Gotta Be Subpoenaed by the Democratic House panfluteman Mar 2019 #81
Well the memes have built this up to be the greatest investigation and pending prosecution in human MadDAsHell Mar 2019 #85
If more than one copy is sent to the WH, Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #86
Glad the investigation is over, now we can focus DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #87
Leak like you've been locked out of the bathroom for two years! meadowlander Mar 2019 #89
Just like the Fitzmas that wasn't. CentralMass Mar 2019 #91
Anyway Don Jr? videohead5 Mar 2019 #94
Here's some good news California_Republic Mar 2019 #95
Happy Friday, please gldstwmn Mar 2019 #96
About the timing? Marthe48 Mar 2019 #97
Common a.g... Maxheader Mar 2019 #99

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. Me, too. No indictments of the family does not bode well.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:34 PM
Mar 2019

I think the family stays clean. They won't touch the President or his family, for any reason.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
54. Email by spokesman I THINK says "No," in response to question...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:01 PM
Mar 2019

does the report contain guidance on prosecutions (or the like)?

So maybe the report doesn't "recommend" whatever the various jurisdictions might want to do with the report findings. Impeachment, indictments, no indictments, slap on the wrist, or nothing at all.

Mean of them to deliver the report late on a Friday.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
84. True. But we do know that Mueller didn't indict any of the family.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:56 PM
Mar 2019

Which is disappointing to me. I can't see anyone else in the country who would indict Don Jr or Kushner.

So I guess it means that Mueller didn't have the evidence to indict them. The level of evidence required is a very high bar.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
101. Sorry, but your assumptions are mistaken.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 11:12 AM
Mar 2019

Mueller's report does not include indictments that are already UNDER SEAL. When those indictments are released, your knowledge base will not look to be valid. He reportedly does not make a global assertion about there being NO indictments, only that there are no further indictments contained in the current report.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,986 posts)
58. If you mean this exchange, all it says is no guidance about report, NOT IN report.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:06 PM
Mar 2019

And, "no," the correspondent did not miss a signal.



Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
83. We know that Mueller's team did not indict any of the family.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:54 PM
Mar 2019

I think the "no" the twitter refers to is that "no, we don't provide any guidance on prosecutions, etc."

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
63. We must remember what Rosenstein said earlier
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:16 PM
Mar 2019

“Rosenstein wrote. “We also have a duty to prevent the disclosure of information that would unfairly tarnish people who are not charged with crimes. … In fact, disclosing uncharged allegations against American citizens without a law-enforcement need is considered to be a violation of a prosecutor’s trust.”

He used the Comey incident as an example, when HRC was put in the spotlight right before the election.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
69. that we shouldn't be surprised when the report flops when it comes to indictments, we were warned.nt
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:21 PM
Mar 2019

Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
42. Expect the worst but hope for the best.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:48 PM
Mar 2019

I fear the standards for conspiracy against the US will be so high that there may not be enough solid documented evidence to reach it.
If the behavior doesn't reach that standard we will only hear that it doesn't, not how close it comes.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
68. For me, close to "worst" has happened.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:21 PM
Mar 2019

No indictments of people that I have seen evidence indicating are guilty of conspiring with Russia. Namely, Jr. and Kushner. (They will never indict a President.)

dvduval

(260 posts)
43. Maybe...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:48 PM
Mar 2019

...Mueller has determined that he cannot indict certain people himself, and we'll leave it to Congress but will recommend it in his report. I think there's a lot left to see here. Certainly we will have a great volume of information coming shortly.

BumRushDaShow

(128,706 posts)
2. Just saw the breaking
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:05 PM
Mar 2019

as I was sticking something into the oven...

NYT -

Mueller Delivers Report on Russia Investigation to Attorney General

By Sharon LaFraniere and Katie Benner

March 22, 2019

WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has delivered a report on his inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 election to Attorney General William P. Barr, according to the Justice Department, bringing to an apparent close an investigation that has consumed the nation and cast a shadow over President Trump for nearly two years.

Mr. Barr will decide how much of the report to share with Congress and, by extension, the American public. The House voted unanimously in March on a nonbinding resolution to make public the report’s findings, an indication of the deep support within both parties to air whatever evidence prosecutors uncovered.

Since Mr. Mueller’s appointment in May 2017, his team has focused on how Russian operatives sought to sway the outcome of the 2016 presidential race and whether anyone tied to the Trump campaign, wittingly or unwittingly, cooperated with them. While the inquiry, started months earlier by the F.B.I., unearthed a far-ranging Russian influence operation, no public evidence has emerged that the president or his aides illegally assisted it.

Nonetheless, the damage to Mr. Trump and those in his circle has been extensive. A half-dozen former Trump aides have been indicted or convicted of crimes, mostly for lying to federal investigators or Congress. Others remain under investigation in cases that Mr. Mueller’s office handed off to federal prosecutors in New York and elsewhere. Dozens of Russian intelligence officers or citizens, along with three Russian companies, were charged in cases that are likely to languish in court because the defendants cannot be extradited to the United States.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/mueller-report-release.html

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,359 posts)
8. Oh, you can't take the time to eat, not with Trump in office.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:10 PM
Mar 2019

I stayed late when this thing happened. I'm about to get out of here.

Have a nice weekend.

BumRushDaShow

(128,706 posts)
12. Oh what I am making is not for today
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:12 PM
Mar 2019

it's for the weekend and next week! My tonight's dinner will be going in a toaster oven shortly (the last of some home-made fish and chips)!

TGIF to you too!

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
19. Hope that it wasn't your head
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:19 PM
Mar 2019

...That you were putting in the oven.

Or is that even a thing now? What with all the safeguards in modern appliances, and all. (Showing my age, with pride).

Stay strong!

BumRushDaShow

(128,706 posts)
29. It was a Pillsbury recipe
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:31 PM
Mar 2019

using crescent roll dough. Cooked up ground sausage with some onions and peppers, melted some cream cheese in a pan and coated the sausage mixture with the melted cheese, laid a "sheet" of the crescent dough (with the perforations pressed out) on the bottom of a 13 x 9 pan, topped that with the cheese/sausage mixture, sprinkled shredded cheese on top of that, and then sealed the whole thing in with another crescent roll can's sheet of dough. Bake @ 375 for ~21 - 26 minutes so it's about done now!

ETA - just pulled it out. Fini!

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
41. It was the gas, not the appliance
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:47 PM
Mar 2019

Producer gas was made from coal. It was 40 percent carbon monoxide.

The gas we use now is mostly methane plus methyl mercaptan for stench.

BumRushDaShow

(128,706 posts)
77. "The gas we use now is mostly methane plus methyl mercaptan for stench."
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:39 PM
Mar 2019

... although you do have some folks who use propane for heating/cooking.

Of course my oven could have been electric and then the whole gas thing would be moot (but it's not though).

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
80. Propane, butane and methane are all simple asphyxiants
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:49 PM
Mar 2019

If they kill you it’s by reducing O2 concentration below what you need to survive.

Carbon monoxide is a poison gas. Big difference.

BumRushDaShow

(128,706 posts)
82. I know what they are
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:53 PM
Mar 2019

have a degree and all!

You can die with too much O2 as well. We're made to have that certain percentage (~80%) of N2.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
3. Barr has it now. The moron is off to FL.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:06 PM
Mar 2019

And it is Friday....now what? Is the investigation officially over now?

Mr.Bill

(24,262 posts)
4. Now it's a matter of if we get to see it, and how much of it
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:06 PM
Mar 2019

we get to see.

Never forget Ken Starr's report was posted on the internet in it's entirety.

FakeNoose

(32,610 posts)
10. Don't worry, SOMEBODY will leak it
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:11 PM
Mar 2019

There's no way this report will stay locked up. Time to celebrate!



Thank you Robert Mueller!

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
30. We've got him for at least -
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:33 PM
Mar 2019

669 days
16063 hours
963808 minutes
57828496 seconds

Then hopefully he won't win reelection.

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
35. Starr's report was posted on the internet, why not Mueller?
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:37 PM
Mar 2019

That's what I can't understand. Can you explain that to me. Thanks!

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
100. Unless it's to a Dem
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 10:18 AM
Mar 2019

Starr was able to print graphic sexual details about a sitting President. I vividly remember sitting in my office that day with people that I worked with stopping everything to read every salacious detail. One of the greatest lines I ever heard out of this was Larry Flynt's offer to Kenneth Starr to come work for Hustler magazine because Flynt thought Starr was one of the finest pornographic authors ever.

getagrip_already

(14,674 posts)
51. different law...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:59 PM
Mar 2019

Starr was an independent prosecutor. Mueller is a special council. Starr was largely independent of the doj and white house. He never had any constraints on him. He made it a theatrical production, complete with a truck pulling up to congress and wheeling boxes in on hand trucks.

Muehler can't do any of that. He is bound to the approval of every major action by the ag or designate. His reort is to the ag only, not the congress.

It's a miracle it ever got this far, but the deck was always stacked in the wh's favor.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
39. me too.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:40 PM
Mar 2019

but just last week they requested a delay for pressing matters. I assume cases are continuing and more may be brought by other prosecutors.

sigh. i fucking hope so.

elleng

(130,825 posts)
9. NYT edit
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:10 PM
Mar 2019

*Even though Mr. Mueller’s report is complete, some aspects of his inquiry remain active and may be overseen by the same prosecutors once they are reassigned to their old jobs within the Justice Department. For instance, recently filed court documents suggest that investigators are still examining why the former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort turned over campaign polling data in 2016 to a Russian associate whom prosecutors said was tied to Russian intelligence.

Mr. Mueller looked extensively at whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice to protect himself or his associates. But despite months of negotiations, prosecutors were unable to personally interview the president. . .


EDIT: The regulations that govern Mr. Mueller, who is under the supervision of the Justice Department, only require him to explain his decisions to either seek or decline to seek criminal charges in a confidential report to the attorney general. The attorney general is then required to notify the leadership of the House and Senate judiciary committees.

During his Senate confirmation hearing, Mr. Barr promised to release as much information as possible, saying “the country needs a credible resolution of these issues.” But he may be reluctant to release the part of Mr. Mueller’s report that may be of most interest: who the special counsel declined to prosecute and why, especially if Mr. Trump is on that list.

The department’s longstanding practice, with rare exceptions, is not to identify people who were merely investigative targets in order to avoid unfairly tainting their reputations, especially because they would have no chance to defend themselves in a court of law. Mr. Rosenstein, who has overseen Mr. Mueller’s work and may have a say in what is released, is a firm believer in that principle.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/mueller-report-release.html

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
62. "may be reluctant to release the part of Mr. Mueller's report that may be of most interest:
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:11 PM
Mar 2019

who the special counsel declined to prosecute and why." Rosenstein has already stated that there will be no public mention of anyone in the report that hasn't been indicted or charged with a crime. Its not a law, just his rules & I'm sure tRumps buddy Barr is happy with that. The reason they used was they didn't want to damage anyones reputation like what happen to HRC when Mueller called her out right before the election.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,986 posts)
46. None at this time. Report may recommend indictments. Or not. Individual 1 still broke the law.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:50 PM
Mar 2019

He made hush payments that should have been reported and were not. He even signed checks!

And that's without considering Cohen's testimony.

And that's just one issue.

Mueller may have punted on indicting higher ups than Flynn because of thorny legal issues and thus may have pushed the remaining stuff in to the lap of the Department of Justice.

Rod Rosenstein is still technically overseeing the investigation, even if Barr is AG. Remember how this week or last it was suddenly stated that Rosenstein would be staying on for a few weeks, length of time undefined.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
90. Not good news
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:22 PM
Mar 2019

Reuters Top News (@Reuters)

BREAKING: Mueller is not recommending any further indictments in Russia probe - Senior Justice Department official
https://t.co/U196YV5GTW
pic.twitter.com/u4FFOQ122D

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
98. We can still hope for SDNY and EDNY to go after Don Jr and Jarvanka.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:36 AM
Mar 2019

But, the big focus should be on 2020 elections, undoing the mischief of Russia, China, etc. Hopefully, Mr Coffee (Schultz) will choose to not run as independent or third party.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
27. Really Mueller? On a Friday 'news dump' timing? (I'm hoping for fireworks, but...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:27 PM
Mar 2019

fearing the worst, as in nothing much to see here folks, move along.)

Also, what major distraction will Trump erupt to misdirect the media?

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
28. drump's financial dealings before and after 2016 election are the main issues.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:28 PM
Mar 2019

If not for impeachment then to defeat his reelection.

bluestarone

(16,894 posts)
33. Just want to say that We ALL hope Muellers finds tRUMP guilty BUT
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:35 PM
Mar 2019

WE all know that probably our best shot no matter what happens today, is in 2020!! So just don't give up hope if report is not what we want! i'm concerned about this report BUT I REALLY believe we will get him defeated in 2020!!

Lars39

(26,108 posts)
36. The Justice Dept investigation ended, but I bet the
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:38 PM
Mar 2019

Intelligence communities' investigations are still ongoing.

oldsoftie

(12,515 posts)
38. Finally. SO tired of waiting on this. And not expecting any earth shattering news either.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:39 PM
Mar 2019

I have said since the start that trumps biggest trouble will be from his past business scams, not Russians. And also the public finding out he makes nowhere NEAR what he wants us to believe & he's worth nowhere NEAR what he says either.

MontanaMama

(23,297 posts)
45. CNN is talking about the WH feeling good
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:50 PM
Mar 2019

about the report going forward. Hope that's crap talk. They shouldn't be feeling good about the report...at least I hope not.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
52. according to the JD playbook rules the report will not mention anyone who was not indicted
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:00 PM
Mar 2019

or charged with a crime so I don't expect any tRump or family bombshells, what I do expect is tRump using it as a I Told You So moment and will be campaigning with it like its a "yuge" victory.

srobertss

(261 posts)
49. Trying to let this go already
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:56 PM
Mar 2019

I’m poised for disappointment even though I have been telling myself for a long time that we’re stuck with him at least until 2021. It’s just that he’s so corrupt, but 42% of the country (latest aggregate from five thirty eight.com) like him. I wanted some sort of revenge.

But, even if we’re disappointed, the bright side is that maybe the other side will finally stop bashing the rule of law. That has been so damaging.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,986 posts)
53. "Russia investigation". What about the China investigation? "more extensive corrupt ties to China"
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:00 PM
Mar 2019

From the Steele dossier, and in light of the massage parlor corruption and selling of influence, reversing sanctions on 2 Chinese companies, ...



yaesu

(8,020 posts)
56. I wholly expect tRump to weaponize the report, use it on the campaign trail as vindication
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:03 PM
Mar 2019

& attack all of us who know damn well he's guilty.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
61. I hope Mueller's recommendation is for Trump to be impeached
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:10 PM
Mar 2019

If not for immediate impeachment, then indictment upon leaving office.

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
64. And now the wait, and the court fights....
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:16 PM
Mar 2019

to find out what the Mueller Report says. How much will we finally be privy to?

I think the larger and more detrimental cases for Trump are yet to come from the SDNY. Then the cases in the New York State courts. Those are the cases that will heavily hurt Trump in the wallet.

 

keepFocused06

(28 posts)
66. trump is going to get off
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:18 PM
Mar 2019

trump is going to get off. I'm convinced of it. He's going to run with it and use this to carry him into the next election. Democrats need to shut the hell up and get in line. This is bigger than AOC, Bernie, or Omar. This is time for Democrats to stop attacking Democrats, stop the investigations, and focus on showing how trump is moron and coming up with a clear message for 2020. This guy can and if he is fully exonerated has a good chance of winning and putting more right wing justices on the court.

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
72. Above all I want the truth. Yes, I also want Grumpy gone, but I want the truth
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:27 PM
Mar 2019

To come out so there's no more speculating. He's still horrible for so many reasons I can't count, whether guilty of collusion and/obstruction or not. Stay woke. Stay united in the effort to dethrone the repukes and save America.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
75. Flashback to Watergate
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:36 PM
Mar 2019

There IS a difference between "beneficiary of actions" and "directed actions".

In the former, there is an implied "benefit of the doubt".

Versus the Watergate coverup.

((Yes, I do wish they had found a "smocking gun" on HIM, but...))

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
78. Unfortunatley a republican president is above the law, no democratic one would be but surely
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:41 PM
Mar 2019

a republican is.

So, what we have is the State of NY with more than enough to put the traitor away for life the instant he leaves the WH, which means he aint leaving, no matter what, voluntarily.

That much I am certain of. I guarantee it. Whether that means he uses his bosses putin, NK and Saudis to help him or he just tells 45 million assholes to start shooting, one way or another he aint leaving, voluntarily.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
79. I think I'm going to barf.......
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:41 PM
Mar 2019

Either way. Barf if the report DOESN'T conclude that The Don (reference to Mafia here) was behind it all.

and barf if the report DOES conclude that The Don was behind it but DOES NOTHING -- no indictments, no nothing.

In either case, the 2020 election will be the deciding point for this country. Do we desperately hang on to our democracy or do we continue down the path of fascism to Hitler/Mussolini style dictatorships.

Yup, I'm going to barf

xcuse me..........

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
81. The Mueller Report Gotta Be Subpoenaed by the Democratic House
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:51 PM
Mar 2019

It's too important not to, and the public deserves to know and read every word that's in there. The Friday news dump timing does not look good. I wonder if Trump and his gang were secretly able to silence Mueller, or at least curb his work, with behind the scenes threats. Astrologically speaking, the whole timing of this, only four days before Mercury comes to a station and goes direct, does not particularly bode well, as the possibility for dirty tricks looms large. I can see how some on this thread have already started weeping for our country in advance. The house Democrats have to fight like hell and demand every single page, every single word of that Mueller report, and not put up with any BS or hanky panky from the Republicans.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
85. Well the memes have built this up to be the greatest investigation and pending prosecution in human
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:58 PM
Mar 2019

history, painting Mueller as Elliott Ness x 100. There's no way this can disappoint...

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
87. Glad the investigation is over, now we can focus
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:10 PM
Mar 2019

on the truly reprehensible policies and non-stop corruption of Trump and his crony cabinet.

meadowlander

(4,393 posts)
89. Leak like you've been locked out of the bathroom for two years!
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:18 PM
Mar 2019

You know everyone in the White House is about to start eating each other on national TV.

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
95. Here's some good news
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:45 PM
Mar 2019

Others remain under investigation in cases that Mr. Mueller’s office handed off to federal prosecutors in New York and elsewhere.

Marthe48

(16,926 posts)
97. About the timing?
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:27 PM
Mar 2019

Mr. Mueller asked for and got an extension. How does the report getting submitted at this time tie in with the length of the extension? Does it seem like the report got jerked in? I heard speculation that Barr would close it down as soon as he could, so did he? I hope that Mr. Mueller got to the point where he can pass the foundation off and others, many others, can finish any work that needs to be done.

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