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MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:31 PM Mar 2019

New Zealand Mosque Chairman Accuses Mossad, 'Zionist Business' of Orchestrating Christchurch Shootin

Source: The Algemeiner

The chairman of a New Zealand mosque was caught on video telling a rally in the city of Auckland that the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad and “Zionist business” were behind the recent shooting attack on two mosques in Christchurch. Fifty people were killed and dozens more wounded in the attacks on March 15. Australian citizen Brenton Tarrant, a white supremacist, was arrested and charged with the crime.

According to New Zealand news outlet Newshub, the Saturday rally was intended to memorialize the victims of the attacks, but at one point Ahmed Bhamji, chairman of the Mt Roskill Masjid E Umar mosque, stated, “I really want to say one thing today. Do you think this guy was alone? … I want to ask you, where did he get the funding from?” “I stand here and I say I have a very very strong suspicion that there’s some group behind him and I am not afraid to say I feel Mossad is behind this,” he added. A bystander then responds, “It’s the truth. Israel is behind this. That’s right!”

After the video of the speech was posted on Twitter, the New Zealand Jewish community quickly responded. “These conspiracy theories are dangerous lies. They put the Jewish community at risk, at a time of heightened security concerns,” said New Zealand Jewish Council spokesperson Juliet Moses. “Conspiracy theories — particularly the idea that Jews (whether through the Jewish state or otherwise) are a malevolent controlling force in the world — are at the very core of antisemitism.”

Referring to Love Aotearoa Hate Racism, the group that organized the rally, Moses said, “It is unfortunate that they did not appear to put its anti-racism message into practice by challenging or condemning the racism in their midst. We must call out hateful dehumanising language, whatever the source, target, and circumstances, and even when it is not politically expedient to do so,” she admonished. Bhamji himself was contacted by Newshub and proved unapologetic about his remarks. “Mossad is up to all these things,” he stated. “When I talk about Mossad, why should the Jews be upset about it? Give me an answer.”

Read more: https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/03/26/new-zealand-mosque-chairman-accuses-mossad-zionist-business-of-orchestrating-christchurch-shootings/?fbclid=IwAR0pU2okZ-mipI6dpMCDW2LLvun9YZWq3CMMmmziAGHfP5dVSGHEzkSpP0A



Unfortunately, this is predictable.
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New Zealand Mosque Chairman Accuses Mossad, 'Zionist Business' of Orchestrating Christchurch Shootin (Original Post) MosheFeingold Mar 2019 OP
But of course. Blame Israel and Mossad for the CA fires, for this spring floods question everything Mar 2019 #1
Very unfortunate remarks. Jet fuel for racist Israelis. Beakybird Mar 2019 #2
Racist Israelis? MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #4
Don't you mean bigots? Which every religion has btw. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #12
Racist Israelis? WTF? DavidDvorkin Mar 2019 #13
WTF ? JI7 Mar 2019 #25
Unfortunately, this is predictable. rpannier Mar 2019 #3
The shooter was evil, but smart MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #7
Hard but the shooter still found a way to go even lower. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #14
The unfortunate circle of hate. defacto7 Mar 2019 #5
Jebus crisp, did he ever get that wrong. It was a white "Christian" Trump supporter, alright. marble falls Mar 2019 #6
No MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #8
It will be found he is some sort of primitive protestant. He may hate the inlaws, he loves Trump. marble falls Mar 2019 #10
Well, I went looking for his crap manefesto MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #15
I know, right? This is one bizarre source, this "algemeiner", not sure if it should be allowed here ck4829 Mar 2019 #20
Der Algemeiner MosheFeingold Mar 2019 #23
anti-Semitism as a response to terror does not help, mr mosque chairman Hassler Mar 2019 #9
Disgusting but not surprising n/t Devil Child Mar 2019 #11
Does this mosque guy get that the shooter was an anti-semite? Seems that they had that in common nt okaawhatever Mar 2019 #16
Unsurprising. Behind the Aegis Mar 2019 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #18
Rush Limbaugh also called the attack a false flag, but no LBN and the Algemeiner didn't cover it... ck4829 Mar 2019 #19
Seems you have a problem with anti-Semitism being called out...again. Behind the Aegis Mar 2019 #21
Yep Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #24
It is called double vision. Some people see only what they want still_one Mar 2019 #27
Awful. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #22
yet so called liberals get upset at democrats condemning anti semitism JI7 Mar 2019 #26
Aaaaaaaaand now someone had to go the idiot route. n/m RhodeIslandOne Mar 2019 #28

question everything

(47,460 posts)
1. But of course. Blame Israel and Mossad for the CA fires, for this spring floods
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:36 PM
Mar 2019

for last couple of years hurricanes. Why stop at shooting Muslims? Oh, and don't forget Chelsea Clinton



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MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
4. Racist Israelis?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:42 PM
Mar 2019

There are lots of Israelis: Arab, Jewish, Christian, and Druze of all colors and origins, sexual orientations, and political stripes.

While I am sure there are plenty of racists in Israel among each group, to which group do you think this would be "fuel"?

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
3. Unfortunately, this is predictable.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:41 PM
Mar 2019

Sadly, it is so true

I could take the low road on this, but it would be harder to go lower than the Mosque chairman

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
7. The shooter was evil, but smart
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:46 PM
Mar 2019

Remember, his manefesto was all over the place. Something of a cross between Charlie Manson's "Helter Skelter" and wanting to bring a race war to praising communist and hating corporations.

But he wasn't an idiot.

This particular mosque was on a watch list because it produced several ISIS fighters and some there preached hatred -- it is thus both a innocent victim with some unsympathetic clods (like this guy).

The shooters' goal was to bring disunity and hatred, and boy did he.

cstanleytech

(26,273 posts)
14. Hard but the shooter still found a way to go even lower.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:56 PM
Mar 2019

Hopefully though they will go to prison for the rest of their natural life.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. The unfortunate circle of hate.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:44 PM
Mar 2019

It's unsubstantiated propaganda that is so much the basis of ideological hatred. It also plays right into the far right game plan.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
8. No
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:48 PM
Mar 2019

He actually hated Trump -- and liked him.

Liked him because he viewed Trump as a symbol of "white power" --- and hated Trump because Trump is a capitalist, had Jewish kids/inlaws.

Not sure what his view on Christianity was. I suspect negative, given the pages of love for China.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
15. Well, I went looking for his crap manefesto
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:05 PM
Mar 2019

And it appears to have been scrubbed from the internet.

So, I can't answer that question. I vaguely recall that he hated Christianity as a Jewish plot, but that could be something I read from some Nazi somewhere.

I get not wanting to give idiots like this a voice, but censoring them ultimately makes them a forbidden fruit for the whackos, who will find it somewhere.

ck4829

(35,041 posts)
20. I know, right? This is one bizarre source, this "algemeiner", not sure if it should be allowed here
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:01 AM
Mar 2019

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
23. Der Algemeiner
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:16 AM
Mar 2019

Is a Yiddish and English language newspaper that has been in circulation since 1972. Ellie Weisel and Senator Lieberman have been on its board of directors/advisors. It focuses on issues affecting the Jewish community and certain other areas where it has primary circulation (NYC, London, Paris, Jerusalem).

It is generally considered left-of-center, although with the new found voice of antisemites among certain portions of the left, it has recently been shouted down, given Jewish community concerns, writ large, are now deemed inconvenient or insignificant.

Aside from that, this is hard fact report. No commentary. The putz said what he said. So it shouldn't matter the source.

Behind the Aegis

(53,934 posts)
17. Unsurprising.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:21 AM
Mar 2019

It was only a matter of time.

Now, I guess we should scream and yell about "so and so hasn't condemned this...WHY?!?!" I don't suspect too many will take notice, and most will ignore it or tell us to ignore it.

Response to MosheFeingold (Original post)

Behind the Aegis

(53,934 posts)
21. Seems you have a problem with anti-Semitism being called out...again.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:43 AM
Mar 2019

Or is it only a "certain type" that is acceptable to call out, but all others must be avoided and "whatabouted" to death?

So here, here is a better source, or is there a problem with this one too?

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/jews-outraged-after-mosque-leader-blames-mossad-for-christchurch-attack/ar-BBVehvs

Since you are so questioning, maybe you should ask why certain media outlets don't see news like this worthy of coverage?

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