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former9thward

(31,947 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 05:51 PM Mar 2019

Chicago sends letter trying to recoup $130K from Jussie Smollett

Source: Chicago Tribune

The city sent a letter to Smollett through his attorneys Thursday, demanding he pay $130,106 “expended on overtime hours in the investigation of this matter.”

If Smollett does not pay, the letter states the city “may prosecute you for making a false statement to the city.”

“The City of Chicago and the Chicago Police Department take seriously those who make false statements to the police, thereby diverting resources from other investigations and undermining the criminal justice system,” the letter signed by Corporation Counsel Ed Siskel reads in part. “On January 29, 2019, you made a police report in which you falsely claimed that two men had attacked you while yelling racial and homophobic slurs.”

Law Department spokesman Bill McCaffrey said the city wasn’t committing to such a lawsuit. But he said the city has “a lengthy and successful track record” of recovering funds under a statute that makes a person liable for costs the city incurred to provide services related to the person’s violation of the law.

Read more: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-emanuel-smollett-costs-recovery-20190328-story.html

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Chicago sends letter trying to recoup $130K from Jussie Smollett (Original Post) former9thward Mar 2019 OP
Isn't that offering to let him buy his way out of being prosecuted for a crime? Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #1
He already bought himself out of what he was originally charged with. former9thward Mar 2019 #3
But they are specifically saying he Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #4
To me, also. Harker Mar 2019 #6
Chicago politics is corrupt as hell. christx30 Mar 2019 #28
He should be responsible to pay the bill. Dont think he should be in jail, but he should have to pay Pisces Mar 2019 #12
Sounds like it Mario Luigi Mar 2019 #32
Everything about this case stinks n/t Devil Child Mar 2019 #2
I definitely think we don't have the whole story here. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #5
Agreed. Who the hell knows what really happened? gldstwmn Apr 2019 #36
Isn't this why Avenatti is in trouble? unc70 Mar 2019 #7
No it is nothing of the sort jberryhill Mar 2019 #8
Of course there is the possibility that he is totally innocent. Which I don't see expressed much. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #9
He had the option of refusing the plea deal and going to trial rocktivity Mar 2019 #10
His lawyer says there was no plea deal. They dropped the charges. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #17
Why did he forfeit his bail? former9thward Mar 2019 #19
In EXCHANGE for dropping the charges rocktivity Mar 2019 #21
His lawyer says otherwise. So does the Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx. pnwmom Mar 2019 #22
The Kim Foxx who took a call exboyfil Mar 2019 #26
But his lawyer, and he, LIED. The office, the maypr & the chief ALL called it a deal. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #24
I have common sense and no he faked it. Pisces Mar 2019 #13
Really? How much possibility do you give it? Why havent the "attackers" been charged? oldsoftie Mar 2019 #25
His side of the story never really came out. gldstwmn Apr 2019 #37
I agree. The media wanted this to be the the other side of the Trump Catholic school boys story. kcr Apr 2019 #53
Turns out that the prosecution has 3 years in which to refile charges. Because there was no trial... AKing Mar 2019 #11
It doesn't seem like the prosecutors want to do that ripcord Mar 2019 #14
Jeopardy attaches when a jury is empaneled. clementine613 Mar 2019 #16
This whole thing has stunk from the beginning bitterross Mar 2019 #15
So how much are they going to spend to prosecute him? LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #18
Nothing. former9thward Mar 2019 #20
Good. Make him pay for the wasted hours spent by the force investigating a fake crime. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #23
There is literally ZERO legal evidence this was a crime obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #30
The city says the evidence is overwhelming. They cut a deal with a famous guy. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #31
Charges were dropped obamanut2012 Apr 2019 #40
Yes. As i said, they made a deal with a famous rich guy. We'll drop charges & keep your 10K oldsoftie Apr 2019 #41
Exactly. Asking people involved in criminal cases gldstwmn Apr 2019 #38
He has probably zapped his movie/TV career Submariner Mar 2019 #27
The sad thing is, there will be plenty of people who will push for him to stay on Empire. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #42
Then they need to charge him and try him -- this is a shakedown obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #29
yea everything about this approach reeks of thuggish methods onetexan May 2019 #56
Mystery Solved: Smollett is NOT a first offender rocktivity Apr 2019 #33
The city is also pissed that he keeps walking around proclaiming total innocence & exoneration. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #43
Rahm '16 shot and a cover-up' Emanuel sent letter to recoup. Stellar Apr 2019 #34
Except he wasn't convicted of anything... gldstwmn Apr 2019 #35
This is a civil lawsuit. former9thward Apr 2019 #39
I didn't realize that this was already a lawsuit gldstwmn Apr 2019 #44
It is not a lawsuit yet but soon will be. former9thward Apr 2019 #46
I see. This whole case is such a mess. gldstwmn Apr 2019 #47
Chum in the waters... LanternWaste Apr 2019 #45
UPDATE: Smollet DA Kim Foxx Subpoenaed rocktivity Apr 2019 #48
Does the Chicago Police sue to recoup costs on all false reports? Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #49
lol.. Fix The Stupid Apr 2019 #50
You're so adorable when you try to call me out... Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #51
You still got nothin'? Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #52
UPDATE: Smollet Contract Suspended for Empire Season 6 rocktivity May 2019 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity May 2019 #55
2/2020 UPDATE: Smollett indicted by special prosecutor in Chicago rocktivity Feb 2020 #57

former9thward

(31,947 posts)
3. He already bought himself out of what he was originally charged with.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 05:59 PM
Mar 2019

The forfeit of his $10,000 bail. I think this letter is setting up a civil lawsuit against him.

Mr.Bill

(24,249 posts)
4. But they are specifically saying he
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:03 PM
Mar 2019

may be prosecuted unless he pays them. That just doesn't sound like responsible justice to me. Either he committed a crime or he didn't. If he did prosecute him. Don't put a price on not being prosecuted.

Harker

(13,985 posts)
6. To me, also.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:20 PM
Mar 2019

If they think they can prove criminality, they should arrest him and prosecute him.

This approach comes off like a shakedown.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
28. Chicago politics is corrupt as hell.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:18 AM
Mar 2019

Has been for a century. Maybe favors were called in. Maybe the prosecution screwed up big time, and they are dropping the charges and sealing the whole thing to cover it up. Who knows?
The FBI is taking over the case. We may see some federal prosecutions of the people involved. I love seeing politicians go to prison. It doesn’t happen often enough for my tastes.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
12. He should be responsible to pay the bill. Dont think he should be in jail, but he should have to pay
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:27 PM
Mar 2019

The bill and apologize for the lies and wasted time

Mr.Bill

(24,249 posts)
5. I definitely think we don't have the whole story here.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:07 PM
Mar 2019

I wonder (pure speculation) if there's something about the two guys he hired not having their stories straight and they can't be relied upon to be credible witnesses.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
10. He had the option of refusing the plea deal and going to trial
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:05 PM
Mar 2019

You forfeit your presumption of innocence when you choose the option of forfeiting your bond.


rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
21. In EXCHANGE for dropping the charges
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:50 PM
Mar 2019

which makes it a plea deal and a conviction, NOT an exoneration.


rocktivity

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
22. His lawyer says otherwise. So does the Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:41 PM
Mar 2019
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jussie-smollett-criminal-charges-dropped_n_5c9a4138e4b0a83b0d33d613

“Today, all criminal charges against Jussie Smollett were dropped and his record has been wiped clean of the filing of this tragic complaint against him,” his lawyers said in a statement Tuesday, continuing to maintain that Smollett was “a victim” and “vilified and made to appear as a perpetrator as a result of false and inappropriate remarks made to the public causing an inappropriate rush to judgement.”

“We’re very happy for this result and we are very anxious for Jussie to get on with his career and his life,” Smollett attorney Patricia Brown Holmes said during a press conference shortly after the statement.

Holmes declined to comment about the details of the case, saying that it “had spiraled out of control.”

“We have nothing to say to the police department, except to investigate charges and not try cases in the press,” Holmes said.

The case has been sealed, and the office of Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx said it had reached an “agreement” with Smollett and his attorneys rather than a plea deal, so Smollett will not be required to perform community service.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
24. But his lawyer, and he, LIED. The office, the maypr & the chief ALL called it a deal.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 08:13 AM
Mar 2019

There's no other way to view it. Do community service (joke; 16 hrs) give us 10000.00 & we'll drop the charges. Thats a DEAL

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
25. Really? How much possibility do you give it? Why havent the "attackers" been charged?
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 08:15 AM
Mar 2019

You dont see it expressed much because theres no evidence that supports his innocence.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
37. His side of the story never really came out.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:09 PM
Apr 2019

We heard from the police and two witnesses who said he put them up to it. I don't think they're American citizens either which makes them vulnerable IMO.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
53. I agree. The media wanted this to be the the other side of the Trump Catholic school boys story.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:42 AM
Apr 2019

And the public ate it up. But there is very little actual evidence that says he wasn't a victim, and that's why they dropped the charges.

AKing

(511 posts)
11. Turns out that the prosecution has 3 years in which to refile charges. Because there was no trial...
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:23 PM
Mar 2019

double jeopardy supposedly wouldn't attach. This is per ABC7 news Chicago. Watch the video starting about 1:50 into it.

[link:https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smolletts-surprise-deal-raises-new-questions/5223062/|

ripcord

(5,278 posts)
14. It doesn't seem like the prosecutors want to do that
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:58 PM
Mar 2019

This may be a way for other city departments to try and get the evidence in this case before a jury.

clementine613

(561 posts)
16. Jeopardy attaches when a jury is empaneled.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 09:28 PM
Mar 2019

So, yes, Smollet has not been in jeopardy for this offense.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
15. This whole thing has stunk from the beginning
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 09:24 PM
Mar 2019

This is just one more oddity in an already over-done, overplayed event/non-event.

I would complete refuse to pay this. It seems like the city is trying to alter the plea deal. That's not right.

former9thward

(31,947 posts)
20. Nothing.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:24 PM
Mar 2019

The money was spent investigating the alleged crime. After that nothing. The Judges, police, prosecutors all get paid whether they are prosecuting Smollet or Mary Smith.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
23. Good. Make him pay for the wasted hours spent by the force investigating a fake crime.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 08:11 AM
Mar 2019

Cities should do this more often

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
30. There is literally ZERO legal evidence this was a crime
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 12:08 PM
Mar 2019

He didn't plead nolo, he wasn't tried, charges were dropped. They need to charge him and try him or let it go.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
31. The city says the evidence is overwhelming. They cut a deal with a famous guy.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:07 PM
Mar 2019

Nobody should bitch when the hollywood types get off with a fine for the school buying scandal

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
41. Yes. As i said, they made a deal with a famous rich guy. We'll drop charges & keep your 10K
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:25 PM
Apr 2019

If there wasnt a deal, he would've gotten his 10000 back. He's guilty as hell and EVERYONE knows it, unless they have an agenda. Otherwise, why havent the brothers been arrested?

Submariner

(12,498 posts)
27. He has probably zapped his movie/TV career
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 08:50 AM
Mar 2019

These actors need to stay anonymous to be effective actors. Who will want to see him on the big screen now?

I don't see Tom Cruise as 'Maverick' and John Travolta as anything, anymore, I see Scientology freaks. Can't watch racist birther Jon Voight spoil the Ray Donovan show for me.

Now Smollett will be seen on screen as the fake MAGA victim that cried wolf, instead of the character he is supposed to portray.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
42. The sad thing is, there will be plenty of people who will push for him to stay on Empire.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:29 PM
Apr 2019

Rewarding his behavior.
Hopefully Fox will keep him off the show for good. If not, i hope the show fails next season.

onetexan

(13,024 posts)
56. yea everything about this approach reeks of thuggish methods
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:45 PM
May 2019

This is not the way the police should be conducting themselves.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
33. Mystery Solved: Smollett is NOT a first offender
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 03:16 PM
Apr 2019

Last edited Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:23 AM - Edit history (15)

ThisIsInsider.com: A...2007...California misdemeanor complaint against Jussie Smollett shows the actor was accused of identifying himself as his...brother...Jake Smollett...when a Los Angeles police officer pulled him over on suspicion of driving under the influence. (Jussie) also signed (Jake's) name on the promise to appear in court...

Court records show (that) he pleaded no contest...to driving under the influence...driving without a valid license...(and) the reduced charge of giving false information...The records show he later completed an alcohol education and treatment program and completed the terms of his sentence in May 2008.

So he isn't a stranger to being arrested, taking a plea deal, OR being accused of lying to the police? If State Attorney Kim Foxx didn't have that information, she most certainly should have. Well, now we have the missing piece of the puzzle: while Foxx should have dismissed the charges and returned Jussie's bond money if she thought the cops had screwed up that badly, it now makes sense why Jussie "voluntarily agreed" to do some community service and forfeit his bond.

But as I said upthread, Jussie forfeited his presumption of innocence when he forfeited his bond, and now he can also wave buh-bye to his moral high ground. Game over, Jussie: coffin lid, meet nails -- check, please!




rocktivity

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
43. The city is also pissed that he keeps walking around proclaiming total innocence & exoneration.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:30 PM
Apr 2019

Sound familiar?

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
35. Except he wasn't convicted of anything...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:06 PM
Apr 2019

I don't know what the real deal is with his case but he wasn't convicted of anything so good luck trying to collect on that. I do know that he offered to forfeit his bail to the city of Chicago.

former9thward

(31,947 posts)
39. This is a civil lawsuit.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:17 PM
Apr 2019

It does not depend on a criminal conviction. In fact the burden of proof is considerably lower than a criminal case would be. As an example the OJ case where he was found not guilty but found liable in a civil lawsuit.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
44. I didn't realize that this was already a lawsuit
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:36 PM
Apr 2019

It sounds like they sent him a bill. They're threatening prosecution for making a false statement. That's not civil it's criminal.

former9thward

(31,947 posts)
46. It is not a lawsuit yet but soon will be.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:59 PM
Apr 2019

They can also opt to refile charges criminally but I doubt that will happen. The lawsuit will accomplish everything they want.

Fix The Stupid

(947 posts)
50. lol..
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:19 PM
Apr 2019

Go ahead, make this more polarizing than it already it is...

Make the assumption that they are only suing this POS because he is black...

This place is an effing joke sometimes. Fantasy land...

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