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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:10 AM Apr 2019

'A terrible, terrible thing': NASA said India's satellite destruction created so much space junk it

Source: Business Insider

'A terrible, terrible thing': NASA said India's satellite destruction created so much space junk it now threatens the safety of the International Space Station


Sinead Baker, 4/2/19

NASA said that India has threatened the International Space Station and the astronauts on board by shooting down a satellite with a missile.

NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said the satellite shattered into small pieces of space junk that pose an "unacceptable" threat to astronauts and called it a "terrible, terrible thing."

India said it deliberately chose to destroy a satellite in low orbit so the debris would not harm the station and other satellites, and said the debris would fall back to earth.

But Bridenstine said that pieces were moving above the station, and "that kind of activity is not compatible with the future of human spaceflight."

..more..

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-space-junk-india-destroying-missile-threaten-international-space-station-terrible-thing-2019-4

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'A terrible, terrible thing': NASA said India's satellite destruction created so much space junk it (Original Post) G_j Apr 2019 OP
Well, there goes the neighborhood Roy Rolling Apr 2019 #1
Kessler Syndrome... Girard442 Apr 2019 #2
Gravity. Ilsa Apr 2019 #14
Clooney's character was great. Girard442 Apr 2019 #21
reminded me of the movie d_r Apr 2019 #3
Wasn't that the basic plot of the movie Gravity? OnlinePoker Apr 2019 #4
YES - the very first thing I thought of! bullwinkle428 Apr 2019 #18
And the space shuttle! Ilsa Apr 2019 #25
Weird that they would have the shuttle there (I forgot about it) OnlinePoker Apr 2019 #26
Yeah, but it works for the movie as Ryan Ilsa Apr 2019 #27
Space: The New Frontier DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #5
In the 1970s, there was this NBC TV sci-fi comedy called Quark. Dave Starsky Apr 2019 #7
Deploy the Space Baggies! eShirl Apr 2019 #12
Earth May Care About Our Mess... jayfish Apr 2019 #8
Probably done by design DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #9
Given our behaviors, I can definitely see reasons to quarantine us. roamer65 Apr 2019 #20
This was the first thing I thought of when it was first announced BUT yaesu Apr 2019 #6
Nothing like 'progress.' elleng Apr 2019 #10
in other words... Javaman Apr 2019 #11
We have tested similar anti-satellite missiles BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #29
I already knew we were stupid. LOL nt Javaman Apr 2019 #32
To landfillity and beyond! Purrfessor Apr 2019 #13
Easy fix... Ferrets are Cool Apr 2019 #15
Even if what they said was true that the junk will fall back to the earth, ISN"T THAT A PROBLEM! karynnj Apr 2019 #16
No. jayfish Apr 2019 #17
Thanks! karynnj Apr 2019 #23
Immolated? What, no proper spreading of the ashes in the Ganges? And the other bits? erronis Apr 2019 #31
Destroying the earth just isn't enough IronLionZion Apr 2019 #19
Cleanup in orbit 7. truthisfreedom Apr 2019 #22
Thread winner mahina Apr 2019 #24
Sadly, this is another example of humans doing what humans do yonder Apr 2019 #28
India is the fourth country to do this BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #30
Can't say I know who "no one" is but I do recall some squawking when China did it. yonder Apr 2019 #33

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
1. Well, there goes the neighborhood
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:17 AM
Apr 2019

What could go wrong with dozens of countries operating in earth orbit? Now we know.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
2. Kessler Syndrome...
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:19 AM
Apr 2019
...is a scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) is high enough that collisions between objects could cause a cascade where each collision generates space debris that increases the likelihood of further collisions. One implication is that the distribution of debris in orbit could render space activities and the use of satellites in specific orbital ranges impractical for many generations.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
4. Wasn't that the basic plot of the movie Gravity?
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:24 AM
Apr 2019

A satellite exploded and sent a cascade of debris that destroyed other satellites and the space station?

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
25. And the space shuttle!
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 07:14 PM
Apr 2019

That movie was fun. I loved how she finally developed the resolve to survive.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
26. Weird that they would have the shuttle there (I forgot about it)
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 07:20 PM
Apr 2019

The program was cancelled 2 years before the movie came out.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
27. Yeah, but it works for the movie as Ryan
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 07:25 PM
Apr 2019

travels from the shuttle to the ISS to Tiangong (or whatever the Chinese station was named in the movie). The travel, followed by disaster after disaster, keeps us engaged!

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
5. Space: The New Frontier
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:42 AM
Apr 2019

What else did you expect? We already fucked up the old frontier. Next!

I sometimes wonder if there is a Universe Litter Patrol ready to clean up this mess we keep making if it threatens to spread beyond our Solar System?

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
7. In the 1970s, there was this NBC TV sci-fi comedy called Quark.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:52 AM
Apr 2019

It starred Richard Benjamin as the commander of a crew operating a space garbage truck.

The garbage truck concept was played for laughs, but I have always thought it was a great idea!

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
8. Earth May Care About Our Mess...
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:56 AM
Apr 2019

but the Universe doesn't give a shit. The amount stuff we put out there is equivalent to a single atom in all the world oceans. ...if not less. What we've done though is endangered our ability to get off this rock. For those who don't quite grasp the gravity of the situation:



 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
9. Probably done by design
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 10:03 AM
Apr 2019

Sounds like someone put us here because they don't want us to get off this rock.

Sounds like we're building the opposite of a Dyson Sphere. A Dyson prison. lol

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
20. Given our behaviors, I can definitely see reasons to quarantine us.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 12:06 PM
Apr 2019

Humans are like viruses. They consume and eventually destroy the host.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
6. This was the first thing I thought of when it was first announced BUT
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:42 AM
Apr 2019

the space force will come to the rescue!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
15. Easy fix...
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:12 AM
Apr 2019

Didn't Raygun create a Star Wars department? We can just shoot that garbage out of the heavens with the Death Star. Just sayin'.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
16. Even if what they said was true that the junk will fall back to the earth, ISN"T THAT A PROBLEM!
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:14 AM
Apr 2019

How small is small and how fast will be they be going as they fall?

erronis

(15,241 posts)
31. Immolated? What, no proper spreading of the ashes in the Ganges? And the other bits?
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:19 PM
Apr 2019

What about the not "Almost all"? Won't the news media need to keep all the world inhabitants hooked on minute-by-minute announcements of possible skyward death arrows?

IronLionZion

(45,429 posts)
19. Destroying the earth just isn't enough
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:52 AM
Apr 2019

humans must destroy the whole universe too. Forget space force. We need a space waste management force to clean up the junk.

yonder

(9,663 posts)
28. Sadly, this is another example of humans doing what humans do
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 08:46 PM
Apr 2019

Fuck things up just because they can, I guess. Worry about it later, if any worry is to be given. Didn't the Chinese try the same thing several years ago with about the same results?

Satellites for GPS, communication, observation, agriculture, etc. all could suffer because of this bonehead move. Maybe we'll be forced to relearn and start using old school land surveying and navigation techniques. What about aviation? It's like we're slowly being driven back to the ground to where we started by ill-advised pursuits, and we haven't been treating Mother Earth to damn well either. No time for soaring when we've got military-corpo-industrial stonehumpers driving our bus to oblivion.

I'm just sick of this "Hold my beer, watch this" mentality. Lowest fucking common denominator is what we seem to be striving for.



end o'rant.

 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
30. India is the fourth country to do this
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 09:14 PM
Apr 2019

No one complained when we did it, the Russians did it or the Chinese did it.

yonder

(9,663 posts)
33. Can't say I know who "no one" is but I do recall some squawking when China did it.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 10:59 PM
Apr 2019

As far as other countries taking no flack, little surprise there as folks controlling that message have a death grip on the wheel.

My point remains, no matter how many times this has or will have happened, this is just another example of us humans doing what we do while we shit ourselves out of our nest(s).

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