Child Brides in Africa Are Advertised on Facebook and Sold to Old Men
Source: The Daily Beast
In one Nigerian community, illiterate fathers have learned from their sons that Facebook is a good way to let buyers know their daughters are for sale.
Philip Obaji Jr.
04.04.19 4:57 AM ET
OBANLIKU, NigeriaMonica, 16, is one of two sisters sold as wives to men who found their photographs on their father's Facebook page and contacted him. She and her 14-year-old younger sister never wanted to get married until they completed their secondary education in Ogbakoko, a small village in Obanliku Local Government Area in Nigerias south-central Cross River state. But the teenage sisters fell victims to a culture which subjects little girls, some as young as 10, to de facto slavery through a tradition called money marriage.
The sisters belong to the Becheve community, a large tribe of 17 villages in Obanliku where there is a long tradition in which young girlsoften referred to as money women or money wivesare sold in exchange for food or livestock or cash, or to settle debts.
Like hundreds, or perhaps thousands, of girls from the Becheve clan who are victims of money marriages, Monica and her sister were sold without their consent. Their father wanted to clear the debt he owed to a distant relative. The two sisters got married a month apart to men whom they did not know at all and who were old enough to be their grandfathers.
Their respective husbands got in touch with their father after seeing the Facebook page where he posted photos of his six daughters to draw the attention of his tribesmen. The men of the clan have found the new technology helps to extend and expand their old, exploitative traditions.
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DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Is this actually legal?
progree
(10,890 posts)countless millenia throughout the world and is still very widespread. Good feature piece though.
https://www.google.com/search?q=child+marriage&oq=child+marriage&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2544j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)news that FB is being used this way.
progree
(10,890 posts)Everything is advertised on Facebook, and don't get taken down until they are reported and some Facebook contractor has the time to look at it. That this is new to some people astonishes me.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)running to FB to search for "child marriages." Before today, and before doing a search on FB, how many ads for child brides have appeared on your FB page? Moreover, why are ads for child brides appearing on your FB page? I never see any type ad for anything on my FB page.
progree
(10,890 posts)Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)If they left it up even after it became viral and known to them, I'd be curious to hear their rational for not removing the post to the auction site.
progree
(10,890 posts)... Facebook did not reply to a request for comment.
That's all I "know"
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)I'm curious how long facebook employees were aware of the post. That seems less clear.
This article suggests they took it down as soon as they became aware of it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6411511/Facebook-hosted-South-Sudanese-child-bride-auction-site.html
progree
(10,890 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:54 PM - Edit history (1)
Sad that it took from October 25 to November 9 (15 days) before they became aware of it. I agree with your post #16 (and my #17) that it can be difficult to detect if nobody alerts on it, and even then, according to the Frontline documentary, "Facebook Dilemma" the Facebook contractors are supposed to go through hundreds of alerts per hour-- oh, I forget the number they said -- to judge "ignore" (ignore the alert) or "delete".
progree
(10,890 posts)putting words in peoples' mouths.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)maybe they aren't appearing on your page but, how can you make this type of comment:
Everything is advertised on Facebook, and don't get taken down until they are reported and some Facebook contractor has the time to look at it.
progree
(10,890 posts)deplorable Facebooks postings of all kinds has been covered by many news articles and a couple of recent Frontline documentaries. That in no way, no shape, and no form means I've seen child marriage ads.
Really.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)I'm done. Have a GREAT evening and an even better weekend.
progree
(10,890 posts)progree
(10,890 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 4, 2019, 05:43 PM - Edit history (1)
I regularly monitor about 7 legitimate Facebook groups -- and how long these spam postings stay posted varies a lot.
Just to clarify what kind of "ads" I mean.
progree
(10,890 posts)on his personal FB page (or more often, according to the article, it's a younger more tech-savvy member of the family that sets up the Facebook page etc., but it's on the father's behalf).
It didn't get into detalis of the wording that went with the pictures, could have been kind of subtle, and people who are his relatives, friends, neighbors, and clan members would understand. Anyway, its something only people who know the father is likely to see -- people just checking on various friends and neighbors -- "I wonder how cousin Oluja is doing" ... and then sees the daughters' pictures, with wording like, "looking for an older man to marry" and knowing what its really about.
Edited to ad -- darn, Sapeint Donkey beat me with the same idea, and a much better post too https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2298293
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)Do they want to stop this? If it is making them $$$ than the answer is NO.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)Facebook is bringing expediency to customs and mores that have served the tribe and its neighbors for a long time. My feeling is that we should indeed force our sense of propriety and decency on them. Of course, their feeling may be that they should force their sense of propriety and decency on the United States.
We have more weapons, so "might makes right", right?
And, I can't believe that this tribe's matchmaking network makes a big difference to Facebook's profits or losses.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)Automatic flagging of posts with certain characteristics and behaviors of users is possible and likely something they are or will be doing, but this will mean there will need to be people dedicated to updating the algorithms and rules as people doing it adapt by using more cryptic methods. This also means they will have to become more invasive on private conversations. For example, let's say a father posts photo and the intent of what he is doing is inferred for whatever reason. So maybe facebook notices the father posted photos girls within a certain age range using some automatic detection. So facebook flags that account and continues to monitor behavior such as receiving unsolicited messages from people outside of his network. Which in turn would lead to facebook processing the private messages from the father and these people. Then ultimately to actual people who would do a review to confirm what the system thinks it detected.
My half-baked idea above is probably oversimplified, but I think it illustrates the general idea of what sort things need to be done to stop this. When we say facebook needs to do something. We're asking them to invade our privacy even more than they already are. I'm personally fine with that because I don't do/say anything online that I don't want anyone to know unless I have full control over what I am doing. I also don't really see any other way to prevent this from being facilitated by these social media platforms. They have to do creepy stuff to prevent it from happening. However, I know not everyone shares that sentiments and that's something these companies have to deal with.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Before we get too bent about it in Africa.
Its horrible anywhere, but we have no room to talk.
progree
(10,890 posts)I didn't know it was this bad. Definitely not just an African thing. (And, in fairness, as GulfCoast66 pointed out, we have it in the U.S. too)
https://news.yahoo.com/climate-change-blights-childrens-lives-bangladesh-010750599.html
That's from AFP 4/4/19 today in an article about climate change's affects on Bangladesh children.
Climate change blights children's lives in Bangladesh, AFP, April 4, 2019
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Aussie105
(5,324 posts)between social customs and the rights of the individual.
Girls are just worth less in some cultures than others. Not right by Western standards of course, but is it Facebook's job to enforce Western standards on others?
The child-bride thing has been going on for centuries, all around the world. It's just that social media has made it more visible.
It's pretty much a free for all, no holds barred, no standards set, on most social media. Facebook, Twitter, etc.