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Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:28 PM Apr 2019

The Justice Department is reportedly preparing to go after the author of Trump-Russia dossier

Source: Politico


By NATASHA BERTRAND 04/17/2019 06:47 PM EDT Updated 04/17/2019 08:25 PM EDT

The frenzied anticipation around special counsel Robert Mueller’s full report has overshadowed another Justice Department report on the Russia probe that could land as soon as next month, and which will likely take direct aim at the former British spy behind an infamous “dossier” on President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

For the past year, the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, has been examining the FBI’s efforts to surveil a one-time Trump campaign adviser based in part on information from Christopher Steele, a former British MI6 agent who had worked with the bureau as a confidential source since 2010.

Several people interviewed by the Inspector General’s office over the past year tell POLITICO that Horowitz’s team has been intensely focused on gauging Steele’s credibility as a source for the bureau. One former U.S. official left the interview with the impression that the Inspector General’s final report “is going to try and deeply undermine” Steele, who spent over two decades working Russia for MI6 before leaving to launch his own corporate intelligence firm.

Thursday’s planned release of the full Mueller report by the Justice Department could shed new light on Steele’s role, and the veracity of the controversial dossier he assembled in 2016, featuring explosive—and in some cases sexually lurid—charges of Kremlin influence over Trump and his associates.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/17/mueller-report-steele-justice-department-1280578

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The Justice Department is reportedly preparing to go after the author of Trump-Russia dossier (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2019 OP
This is how dictatorships operate. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #1
DEMS ! HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Apr 2019 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #5
Fuck that. ZZenith Apr 2019 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #20
What's proved to be untrue? C_U_L8R Apr 2019 #3
All evidence so far only corroborates Steele. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #29
Enough investigations already! at140 Apr 2019 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #6
The dem house has passed ALOT of legislation. You know where it's going? NOWHERE onecaliberal Apr 2019 #8
AARGH! BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #10
By then it will be too late... pangaia Apr 2019 #11
Yearning for the old days when O'Neill & Reagan at140 Apr 2019 #25
If we can't dislodge the Nazis, those things will never be fixed. FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #30
Whatever happened to bi-partisonship? at140 Apr 2019 #32
The GOP has transformed into Nazis FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #33
I hope GOP is not thinking genocide at140 Apr 2019 #34
"the issues are not on the level of exterminating a class of people." FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #35
Can not be true, because Trump is bending backwards on his butt at140 Apr 2019 #36
And the immigration thing? Kids in cages and stolen away in secret to other cities in the night? FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #37
Aha...now you switch from Muslims to immigrants on border! at140 Apr 2019 #38
Fuck IndyOp Apr 2019 #7
That could have been what Pompeo was at justice for if they need to get cooperation from the UK... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #9
Steele is reputable, watoos Apr 2019 #12
Yup, open that Pandora's box motherfucker n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #31
Chump is a bully, he's looking for revenge FakeNoose Apr 2019 #13
Remember: ALL Intel had spied on the Russians when Trump people showed up in their radar ancianita Apr 2019 #14
THIS KPN Apr 2019 #28
Hey our multi-billion dollar intelligence agency.. Corgigal Apr 2019 #15
Since there will be no charges, Rod R. will make sure it won't be released ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #16
They need to take the "L" and walk away from this... SKKY Apr 2019 #17
They may be sorry for opening up again this line of investigation. sarabelle Apr 2019 #18
Great post. Welcome to D.U., sarabelle. Judi Lynn Apr 2019 #21
Thank you Judi Lynn. I am one of your most ardent fans. Your posts are very enlightening. nt sarabelle Apr 2019 #26
possible misinformation stopdiggin Apr 2019 #22
Except weren't they already surveilling Carter Page because he kept meeting Russian Intelligence meadowlander Apr 2019 #23
The IG was compromised with the McCabe investigation! atreides1 Apr 2019 #24
Hmm. The investigation was NOT based on the Steele dossier Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #27
Do they really want to whack this hornet's nest? gldstwmn Apr 2019 #39

Response to pangaia (Reply #2)

ZZenith

(4,121 posts)
19. Fuck that.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 02:07 AM
Apr 2019

Like hell we are. You might curl up in a fetal position but the rest of us are going to fight and we are going to remove them. The entire world stands opposed to these bastards - they WILL taste defeat before this is all through.

Response to ZZenith (Reply #19)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
29. All evidence so far only corroborates Steele.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:37 AM
Apr 2019

History will not be kind to those who attempt to smear Steele.

at140

(6,110 posts)
4. Enough investigations already!
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:38 PM
Apr 2019

In the meanwhile healthcare, immigration, national debt, record budget deficits, climate change, green energy etc just all talk and no action.

Response to at140 (Reply #4)

onecaliberal

(32,829 posts)
8. The dem house has passed ALOT of legislation. You know where it's going? NOWHERE
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:46 PM
Apr 2019

Because the piece of shit in the senate will not even allow votes. The orange cancerous pustule will never sign any of it.

at140

(6,110 posts)
25. Yearning for the old days when O'Neill & Reagan
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:13 AM
Apr 2019

got together and passed much bi-partisan legislation.
Bill Clinton did the same thing, and we had another prosperous period.
This gridlock in DC is holding up legislation on so many critical issues.

at140

(6,110 posts)
32. Whatever happened to bi-partisonship?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:53 PM
Apr 2019

If Reagan & speaker O'Neill could do deals,
And Bill Clinton & speaker Newt could do deals,
Why it does not happen anymore? Country is deteriorating in the absence of good deals. The coming recession is going to wipe off the middle class, what's left of it.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
33. The GOP has transformed into Nazis
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 04:37 PM
Apr 2019

Shame beyond description for those who want to compromise with Nazis!

(Hey, Adolf, we'd settle for you only killing 3 million Jews, what do you think?)

at140

(6,110 posts)
34. I hope GOP is not thinking genocide
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:13 PM
Apr 2019

the issues are not on the level of exterminating a class of people.

Affordable healthcare, green energy, immigration reform, stupid lower than inflation rate interest rates, horrible destruction of manufacturing jobs due to ugly trade deficits, rebuilding crumbling infra-structure etc etc do not rise to the level of murdering 6 million in gas ovens.

Sooner both sides sit down and compromise the better. A bitterly divided country is on the path of self-destruction.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
35. "the issues are not on the level of exterminating a class of people."
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:14 PM
Apr 2019

You know the minds of the GOP's members enough to assert that?

Cause from where I'm sittin' it looks like they want to kill a whole lot of Muslims, for a start.

at140

(6,110 posts)
36. Can not be true, because Trump is bending backwards on his butt
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:18 PM
Apr 2019

to support the maximum devout Muslim countries such as, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE etc.
He keeps berating mostly Iran & Syria.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
37. And the immigration thing? Kids in cages and stolen away in secret to other cities in the night?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:21 PM
Apr 2019

You're looking at someone pulling the wings off flies.

They will graduate to bigger and worse things like all sadists.

at140

(6,110 posts)
38. Aha...now you switch from Muslims to immigrants on border!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:41 PM
Apr 2019

You would make a good switch hitter for the Chicago Cubs.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
9. That could have been what Pompeo was at justice for if they need to get cooperation from the UK...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:52 PM
Apr 2019

to question Steele. Someone said the press conference may announce the investigation into the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation. I'm getting that feeling too. They are going on offense.

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
14. Remember: ALL Intel had spied on the Russians when Trump people showed up in their radar
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:31 PM
Apr 2019

and all that was the trigger to the Steele dossier. BEFORE the Steele dossier.

There's no impugning the origins of the Special Counsel's appointment or investigation. AT ALL.

This right here -- Barr's ordering of the inspector general of Michael Steele -- is the true witch hunt.

The DOJ had all the reason it needed from US Intel to start the Mueller investigation
--

-- In 2014 Obama received the intel,
-- Obama kicked out 35 Russian "diplomats," confiscating their New York, Maryland real estate,
-- Obama's meeting with congressional leaders in charge of oversight
-- Mitch McConnell's threat to spin the problem as "fake" to media

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
15. Hey our multi-billion dollar intelligence agency..
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:56 PM
Apr 2019

We have a national security threat attacking an ally of the U.S., which put everyone at risk. We cannot allow this behavior, we need cooperation to keep us safe.

Hello?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. Since there will be no charges, Rod R. will make sure it won't be released ...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:04 AM
Apr 2019

You know, cause of the those Dept. Policies he talked about last month, where if 'Charges Aren't Being Filed, the Bureau has no Business Publicly Impugning the Subject(s) of it's Investigations!!1!!'.

We can TOTALLY count on that Dept. Policy being a totally real thing, and he'll make sure it's adhered to rigorously in all cases.

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
17. They need to take the "L" and walk away from this...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:33 AM
Apr 2019

...I don't think they want to know everything. I'm sure, in their lust for revenge, they think they do. But something tells me they really don't. I mean, really, really don't.

 

sarabelle

(453 posts)
18. They may be sorry for opening up again this line of investigation.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 02:05 AM
Apr 2019

Steel was not the only source of warnings to the US about Russian interference. Others may come forward that will ultimately add veracity to the warnings and basis for the intel operations by the US intel community. There were several sources for alerting the Obama administration to Russian interference. Reopening this issue may confirm the necessity for believing the Steel dossier.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
22. possible misinformation
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 04:00 AM
Apr 2019

It has been speculated that Steele might have been fed misinformation (probably along with good/valid material) as part of the overall Russian scheme of disruption. The Russian's have been honing this type of disinformation campaign for years. Steele, having dealt with this system for years, was undoubtedly supremely aware of the duplicitous nature of any intel coming out of certain areas. In short, a person this experienced would be unlikely to couch anything as factual unless it was checked and verified against several other sources. Much more likely, in the margins, there would be lots of, "there were reports .." or "it was suggested .." As other posters have noted, Steele was only picking up what our own and other intelligence sources (mainly our allies) were hearing at the same time. Even if the Steele report was horribly flawed (which I doubt) .. it would have had no influence on the hundred other threads that were setting off intelligence alarms. Going after Steele is Republican spin .. and nothing more.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
23. Except weren't they already surveilling Carter Page because he kept meeting Russian Intelligence
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 04:18 AM
Apr 2019

Agents? And then kept going to Russia? And taking money to speak at organisations backed by the Kremlin?

atreides1

(16,075 posts)
24. The IG was compromised with the McCabe investigation!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:45 AM
Apr 2019

I believe that the IG was compromised during the McCabe investigation! Michael Horowitz is a Trump man...

Freethinker65

(10,010 posts)
27. Hmm. The investigation was NOT based on the Steele dossier
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:38 AM
Apr 2019

I think the WH wants everyone to concentrate on the dossier that included lots of truth and some disinformation.

I suspect our former allies intelligence services will come forward to say that they provided information that was even more valuable to the FBI. It was an investigation into unprecedented Russian meddling in our election and intelligence services saw it as it happened.

Trump and the WH may very well get away with it by saying they were unaware/duped. This might even have been true at the beginning, especially for clueless Trump (everyone, even some really shady characters, just love him so much they want to help out of the goodness of their hearts), but when confronted with evidence he was being used, his ego just could not admit it.

The Steele dossier is/was not crucial to the investigation.

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