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brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:17 AM Apr 2019

John Bercow must let Donald Trump address Parliament to bolster special relationship, ministers say

Source: The Telegraph

John Bercow must allow President Donald Trump to address Parliament this summer or risk damaging Britain's special relationship with the US, ministers have suggested.

Preparations are underway for President Trump to make a full State visit to the UK in June to coincide with D-Day 75th anniversary commemorations.

But the Speaker is refusing to extend the traditional courtesy of asking the visiting President to address both Houses of Parliament.

US officials have made it clear that they are angered by Mr Bercow’s snub, which has become an embarrassment to the Government as it tries to make the State visit happen three years after it was first offered by Theresa May.

Read more: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/19/john-bercow-must-let-donald-trump-address-parliament-bolster/

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John Bercow must let Donald Trump address Parliament to bolster special relationship, ministers say (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
LOL. That should go well. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #1
This has to be a backdoor trolling attempt and the Brits want some live comedy... Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #21
Our relationship with the UK is way, way, way.... VarryOn Apr 2019 #2
No, I strongly disagree angrychair Apr 2019 #5
Agree. ananda Apr 2019 #18
Why should Parliament give him the opportunity to do what he did in the German Legislature ? Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #33
All the more reason to let him speak. Turbineguy Apr 2019 #25
If it's bigger than one man (notice I'm using the term loosely) then fuck him. When Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2019 #12
I'm not offended in the slightest if they don't host this particular US official. forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #35
He's like the dude who tells your most fucked up Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2019 #38
How Do You Embarrass a Fool? Roy Rolling Apr 2019 #13
I also disagree Butterflylady Apr 2019 #15
We got to see him in action in 2011 when we were walking by Parliament at night and noticed the deurbano Apr 2019 #3
As a Brit, I disagree Scarsdale Apr 2019 #4
And man will your Parliament boo the piss out of anybody they don't care to hear speak. forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #36
Millions of Americans agree with the British people and Parliament. 70% of us didn't vote for him. ancianita Apr 2019 #40
NO MFM008 Apr 2019 #6
Let him address parliament, watoos Apr 2019 #7
Watch Obama's speech to Parliament in Westminster tymorial Apr 2019 #8
Schedule Trump's appearance before Parliament Ramsey Barner Apr 2019 #9
If they do decide to have BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #10
Doesn't this body have a history of behaving murielm99 Apr 2019 #14
Yes. Dave Starsky Apr 2019 #23
That's exactly what I was thinking. Talitha Apr 2019 #24
The presidon't will immediately Twitter how UNAMERICAN the British parliament is! forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #37
Basically tRump will throw temper tantrum if not given certain honors due the office not the man. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #11
They must be pain freaks... Maxheader Apr 2019 #16
There is zero special relationship between Britain and Herr Cheetolini. lark Apr 2019 #17
A state visit is a big deal. I wonder how it came about. Lonestarblue Apr 2019 #19
If they must BlueIdaho Apr 2019 #20
The special relationship between the United States of America and the United Kingdom... nycbos Apr 2019 #22
Well, Trump is an embarrassment to our government, so can't blame them for not vsrazdem Apr 2019 #26
Keep calm and snub on. C_U_L8R Apr 2019 #27
It's more like does Trump risk exposing himself to the House of Commons. no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #28
Here I'll do it for you: Initech Apr 2019 #29
This is huge malaise Apr 2019 #30
Will Dotard expect a ride in the Golden Carriage? keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #31
That's not damaging the special relationship... paleotn Apr 2019 #32
This will go well. GulfCoast66 Apr 2019 #34
trumpy will be out of his league tonekat Apr 2019 #39
I'd love to see him banned from Britain, at least as a State vistor. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #41
Let him because.... Schmice3 Apr 2019 #42
Can we have our FBI people stationed in the UK arrest him for us? Mc Mike Apr 2019 #43
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
2. Our relationship with the UK is way, way, way....
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:38 AM
Apr 2019

Larger than one person. Please forgive my contratian view on this, but I believe the British should give the President of the United States (notice I gave the title, not the name of the current officeholder's name) a platform to speak. There would be ways to present this as a privilege for the President.

I'm certainly no fan of Jeremy Corbyn, and if he were to be made PM and wanted to address Congress, it would never cross my mind to deny him the podium.

angrychair

(8,594 posts)
5. No, I strongly disagree
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 06:05 AM
Apr 2019

Trump is a criminal. A thief. A conman. A bigot. A racist. A rapist. he has done nothing but disgrace and dishonor the office he holds.

He reached that office based on lies.

He is hated in the UK.

He is an embarrassment and an idiot.

I see no reason to give a narcissistic buttplug like trump a stage to ramble and vomit his hate from.


ananda

(28,783 posts)
18. Agree.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:09 AM
Apr 2019

MF45 is NOT a legitimately elected president.

But neither was George W Bush..

.. and yet here we are.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
33. Why should Parliament give him the opportunity to do what he did in the German Legislature ?
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:05 PM
Apr 2019

Has everyone here forgotten how he insulted Chancellor Merkel and the German people in his address there ? Why should the Brits enable him to do the same to them ? He knows NO ONE in the country likes him or wants him there. The protests around him visiting were quite clear in their message - NAFF OFF. The floating trump-baby blimp . . .

Quite frankly, every time he travel internationally, he humiliates and embarrasses the US.

ENOUGH.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,483 posts)
12. If it's bigger than one man (notice I'm using the term loosely) then fuck him. When
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:24 AM
Apr 2019

we are finally rid of this grotesque meat goblin. Then they can invite a human being to continue the tradition.

forgotmylogin

(7,496 posts)
35. I'm not offended in the slightest if they don't host this particular US official.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 12:55 AM
Apr 2019

I cannot stand to listen to him longer than 10 seconds. That's not even hyperbole. He's like the elderly Uncle you really hope doesn't show up at Thanksgiving.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,483 posts)
38. He's like the dude who tells your most fucked up
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 02:04 AM
Apr 2019

uncle "hold my beer, I can do so much better.". Fuck this Manson Family reject".

Roy Rolling

(6,853 posts)
13. How Do You Embarrass a Fool?
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:32 AM
Apr 2019

Give him the microphone.

There are no losers in the Trump-will/Trump-won't debate about addressing Parliament. But fearing him speak before Parliament makes a loud statement itself.

deurbano

(2,891 posts)
3. We got to see him in action in 2011 when we were walking by Parliament at night and noticed the
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:14 AM
Apr 2019

House of Commons was in session. He's an interesting character.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
4. As a Brit, I disagree
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 06:03 AM
Apr 2019

that "he" should be welcomed, because of his position as president. The British people loathe him, saw him as a fraud from the start. This visit will be a carnival, lots of baby tRump balloons flying. The former Democratic presidents would be welcomed with open arms. We know QUALITY, DECENCY when we see it. tRump has neither.

ancianita

(35,813 posts)
40. Millions of Americans agree with the British people and Parliament. 70% of us didn't vote for him.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 11:07 AM
Apr 2019

He demoralizes the social order of this country every day of his presidency.

He does nothing but throw banalities at this special relationship.

Thank you for rejecting him.

MFM008

(19,782 posts)
6. NO
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 06:50 AM
Apr 2019

He has to be reminded he is a world pariah.
He is not decent and his accidental election is a farce.
We might not be able to stop a formal state Visit
But he cant slink along the alleyways like Jack the Ripper.
He needs to be out where people can "greet" him
Properly.
No parliment speech. No gold carriages.
Lots of fat nixon balloons.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. Let him address parliament,
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:22 AM
Apr 2019

as long as the members are free to question him, he will be eaten alive.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
8. Watch Obama's speech to Parliament in Westminster
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:37 AM
Apr 2019

Trump could never deliver the same level of respect, professionalism, and understanding of our special relationship with the United Kingdom.

Quite frankly, Bercow did Trump and America a favor. NOT allowing Trump to address parliament strengthens our relationship. Trump will most certainly embarrass himself and America by proxy.

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
10. If they do decide to have
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:07 AM
Apr 2019

Orange Criminal-in-Chief address Parliament, MPS should boycott, IMO.

Every word would likely be a lie or about how "great" he is in any event. Of course, anything about how "great" he is is also a lie.

murielm99

(30,657 posts)
14. Doesn't this body have a history of behaving
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:33 AM
Apr 2019

raucously? Maybe they should let him speak and heckle him mercilessly.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
23. Yes.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:58 PM
Apr 2019

They are often worse than the crowd at an open-mike night.

I really hope he does it. They will wreck him, and that may be what they have planned.

Talitha

(6,479 posts)
24. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:24 PM
Apr 2019

It would be gratifying if that turd was heckled so loudly that he couldn't be heard, but just the thought of him being able to address Parliament sickens me and I hope he's never allowed - it'd serve him right. Remember when he made the Queen wait 15 minutes in the hot summer sun for his arrival? And from what I understand, he tried to flip the truth and said She kept him waiting. He's SUCH a global embarrasment!

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
16. They must be pain freaks...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:52 AM
Apr 2019


To willing subject themselves to hours of psycho babble from dementia boy...

lark

(23,003 posts)
17. There is zero special relationship between Britain and Herr Cheetolini.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:00 AM
Apr 2019

That relationship is only for the true loves - PUtin, SA & Israel the countries that worked with him to steal our country's highest office and turn it down the fascist lane.

Lonestarblue

(9,880 posts)
19. A state visit is a big deal. I wonder how it came about.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:13 AM
Apr 2019

I was surprised when this was announced because most people in the UK despise Trump. I suspect he has had people negotiating behind the scenes and making threats that if he doesn’t get a state visit with all the pomp he did not get on his last trip, he will ensure that no trade deal is available between the US and UK when Brexit occurs. Trump will use carefully edited video of this visit in his reelection campaign to show his supporters that the whole world adores him and is bowing down to him and his brilliant policies. The UK may have had no choice, but I really hate that they are according him an honor he does not deserve.

I’m sure that protesters will be out in force, but we all know that Fox News will not show them.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
20. If they must
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:23 PM
Apr 2019

They should give him the same respect they give anyone else speaking there - which is to say - none.

nycbos

(6,033 posts)
22. The special relationship between the United States of America and the United Kingdom...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:48 PM
Apr 2019

... go deeper then any American president or UK Prime Minister.


vsrazdem

(2,176 posts)
26. Well, Trump is an embarrassment to our government, so can't blame them for not
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:59 PM
Apr 2019

wanting to subjective themselves to his dribbling idiocy. I wish we didn't have to listen to it here. I always mute the TV when he is on.

C_U_L8R

(44,897 posts)
27. Keep calm and snub on.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019

That jerk should not be allowed anywhere Parliament or any honorary anything. Our majority of America will not be insulted.

no_hypocrisy

(45,774 posts)
28. It's more like does Trump risk exposing himself to the House of Commons.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 03:47 PM
Apr 2019

That should be pretty raucous.


At 0:35 onward. And this is HOC on a quiet day.

Initech

(99,915 posts)
29. Here I'll do it for you:
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:27 PM
Apr 2019

Radical Islamic terrorism
Migrants coming over the border
Democrats want to come take your guns away
I want to win
Jobs jobs jobs
Build the wall
Lock her up

The end. Brain farts.

malaise

(267,823 posts)
30. This is huge
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 04:34 PM
Apr 2019

Invite 'me' to speak in your Parliament or we are no longer friends. So much for British sovereignty. Bet he expects lots of applause as well. This is Fascism on steroids peeps

Ah well Brits, your turn!! Colony time.

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
32. That's not damaging the special relationship...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 06:52 PM
Apr 2019

you twits! That the UK would give the bastard the time of day...THAT would damage the special relationship. Hosting an illegitimate pResident, who's under an impeachment inquiry WOULD hurt the relationship. And the last thing their current government needs is to look more idiotic than they already do by hosting the orange shitgibbon.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
34. This will go well.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:22 PM
Apr 2019

You know how many parliament members will gain points, and pints? by heckling him.

Hell, they deride their PM to her face. Politely, of course.

tonekat

(1,805 posts)
39. trumpy will be out of his league
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 02:17 AM
Apr 2019

I love watching Parliament, it's like they are defending a thesis. trump will just do his usual self-worship song and dance and leave the Brits wondering how the U.S. tolerates this state of affairs.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,154 posts)
41. I'd love to see him banned from Britain, at least as a State vistor.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 01:36 PM
Apr 2019

To further embarrass him and show his supporters and fellow GOP members how he has dragged down the office to the degree that even Britain refuses to host him.

But on the other hand, if its going to spark a yuuuuuuuuge protest, maybe some creative performance art, that will also be effective. I just hope if he comes, the Conservative gov won't be cowed into setting up "protest zones" for "safety reasons", a mile away.

Mc Mike

(9,107 posts)
43. Can we have our FBI people stationed in the UK arrest him for us?
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:16 PM
Apr 2019

According to a memo Barr wrote, that's hunky dory, I think.

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