HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Supreme Court conservativ...

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:03 PM

Supreme Court conservatives sympathetic toward Trump census citizenship query

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, April 23 (Reuters) - Conservative U.S. Supreme Court justices on Tuesday appeared sympathetic toward a bid by President Donald Trump's administration to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, a plan opponents have called a Republican effort to deter immigrants from taking part in the population count.

During an extended argument session that lasted about 80 minutes, the court's liberal justices voiced skepticism over the administration's stated justification for the citizenship question - that it would yield better data to enforce the Voting Rights Act, which protects eligible voters from discrimination.

Lower courts have blocked the question, ruling that the administration violated federal law and the U.S. Constitution in seeking to include it on the census form.

The court has a 5-4 conservative majority, and conservative justices signaled support toward the administration's stance.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-conservatives-sympathetic-toward-trump-census-citizenship-query/ar-BBWd9Wo?li=BBnb7Kz

12 replies, 1620 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 12 replies Author Time Post
Reply Supreme Court conservatives sympathetic toward Trump census citizenship query (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 23 OP
Mr. Evil Apr 23 #1
Doitnow Apr 23 #5
cstanleytech Apr 23 #2
Doitnow Apr 23 #6
cstanleytech Apr 23 #8
melm00se Apr 24 #12
shraby Apr 23 #3
lark Apr 23 #4
DeminPennswoods Apr 23 #9
lark Apr 24 #11
Kablooie Apr 23 #7
Name removed Apr 23 #10

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:09 PM

1. I have a solution.

Should the SCOTUS approve the addition of this question I would simply instruct everyone not to answer it. A nationwide directive of "skip it."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Mr. Evil (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 05:35 PM

5. My first thought, too. Great idea.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:10 PM

2. This is why once we have 51 in the Senate as well as the Presidency not to

mention a majority in the House that we need to take a page from the Repugnants playbook and ram through 6 new liberal judges to SCOTUS by increasing the number of seats to 15.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to cstanleytech (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 05:37 PM

6. Turtle-face has already said he will not put anything up for a vote in

the Senate that he doesn't like.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Doitnow (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:53 PM

8. If the Repugnants lose the majority he will have little say.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to cstanleytech (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:46 AM

12. Actually yes he will

get thee to the Constitution:

Article II, section 2:

he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint...judges of the Supreme Court,


Note the order:

Nominate THEN confirm.

Having a majority in the Senate will not alter this fact.

Could the House and Senate try and increase the number of Justices? Yes and assuming the President signs it and/or Congress overrides the veto, it still does not alter the fact that the President has to nominate the new Justices.

Additionally, remember the last time someone tried to manipulate the number of Supreme Court justices on ideological grounds? Didn't go so well...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 01:20 PM

3. If it's there, I plan not to fill it in. I'll put a great big NA over the box.

My and Mr. Shraby's families have been here since the 1660's. I would say we are citizens.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:10 PM

4. Current SCOTUS is hostile to constitution for Russian Repug purposes.

Partisan hacks and out and out sexual assaulters are 5 of the 9 justices. Roberts occasionally pretends to care about the constitution, but that's pretty rare that he actually backs up the talk with action and he almost always votes for the oligarchs and against the people. That willl definitely happen this time. It will hurt the orange idiot though because TX and AZ will lose population, sadly CA will get caught in the same net.

edit - fixed typo

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lark (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:32 PM

9. Don't forget FL

and states in the midwest like Iowa that depend on immigrants for their meat packing plants and farms.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:42 AM

11. FL illegals are mostly migrant workers, we don't have the volume that is in AZ, TX and CA.

No border with Mexico here. Here we have the Haitians and Cubans via boat. Since FL is so deep in the red due to continuous voter suppression and hacking, it would actually hurt the repug party and they could lose seats in all 3 states. Unfortunately the undercount in CA will hurt Democrats and possibly badly and that is all drumpf cares about - hurting his enemies, not helping his friends.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:03 PM

7. This will pass without question.

The conservative majority on the Supreme Court would approve anything that creates an advantage for Republicans.

Republicans have given up any semblance of decency and have become the dishonest, dishonorable party of Trump and SCOTUS has become simply a branch of that party.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Reply to this thread