'A promise has been kept': Trump is cheered in Council Bluffs after lifting ethanol ban
Source: Omaha World Herald
By Roseann Moring and Joseph Morton
President Donald Trump did a victory lap with Iowa and Nebraska farmers on Tuesday, touting his administrations move to lift a ban on selling gasoline mixed with 15% ethanol during summer months.
And he certainly received accolades from elected officials, industry groups and farmers for the move.
A promise has been made. That promise was made by President Trump. And folks, a promise has been kept, said Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa. And today I say to you, Mr. President, thank you.
But at the Southwest Iowa Renewable Energy facility, he also heard about his administration's liberal granting of waivers on ethanol use by oil companies even by speakers who shared the stage with him.
Read more: https://www.omaha.com/news/politics/a-promise-has-been-kept-trump-is-cheered-in-council/article_fe156eee-ef48-5f60-92a6-5d3d1e91d6a0.html
sprinkleeninow
(20,079 posts)SunSeeker
(51,295 posts)That is why the EPA banned its summertime use back in 2011.
Trump lifting that ban will not really help farmers, but it will definitely increase greenhouse gas emissions.
sprinkleeninow
(20,079 posts)SunSeeker
(51,295 posts)Ethanol is a biofuel that can be made from an array of starchy plants but is most commonly made by fermenting corn. Mixing gasoline with a greater percentage of ethanol increases the overall volatility of the fuel, resulting in more emissions that react with sunlight to create smog. In some regions, ethanol fuels can be cheaper per gallon at the pump, but they can result in reduced fuel economy, meaning they may not be a better deal for some consumers by the mile. In the mid-2000s, legislation aimed at reducing U.S. dependence on foreign oil and decreasing fossil fuel emissions established the Renewable Fuel Standard program. Since then, incorporating biofuels like ethanol into the U.S. energy mix has been federally mandated. But E15s contribution to air pollution led to the EPA banning it during summer months in 2011. https://grist.org/article/ethanol-fuel-e15-big-oil-climate-summer-epa/
Talitha
(6,450 posts)nitpicker
(7,153 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)to them just Gods will
As for the younger people clapping and smiling in the photo they are double greedy and dumb
BigmanPigman
(51,365 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)"presidential look" So fine a gentleman, upstanding doing the will of the people. Yeah, right. So, does Ernst have competition for her seat?? Did she wear those bread wrappers on her feet for the trip on AF 1? The sh*t must be really deep in there, with tRump spewing his BS.
Lulu KC
(2,543 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,027 posts).
He has a car care YouTube Channel, which he provides as a service to viewers.
e15 will work on FlexFuel vehicles without a problem, but most non-Flex vehicles will have multiple problems operating and many people will send their cars to mechanics to find out why their cars are not running properly. He tells people to go out and buy a plastic gas tube to see what amount of ethanol is in your gas--you should do this whenever your car runs like shit. Many gas stations will sell gas with more ethanol than 10% in it as a way to make money. Meanwhile, drivers think something is wrong with their cars.
There's a reason why only 10% ethanol is added to gas, most cars run like shit with more!
Also, ethanol contains 20% less energy than gas, which means more gas has to be sold. A gift to Big Oil too!
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hobby10113
(51 posts)That place tends to be a right wing heaven but noticed a lot of people are upset about the e15 standard there. Also some people were actually bashing trump. I hope this is a good sign. On my gas cap on my Yaris there is a e-15 with a no symbol over it
TheBlackAdder
(28,027 posts).
If you notice your car is running rough or funny, perhaps get one of those ethanol test tubes to check the gas.
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lostnfound
(16,124 posts)Ethanol uses around 30% of corn,iirc.
rurallib
(62,328 posts)think I heard 90% yesterday
lostnfound
(16,124 posts)This shows 83%. But the percent that has emerged is very low, due to late planting, so what does that mean for its survival if cold weather comes early?
https://www.agweb.com/corn-planting-map/
rurallib
(62,328 posts)None of us are farmers. I had always been told that planting after June 1st was extremely iffy due to weather, especially the cold weather you mention.
My friend informed me that genetics and hybridization had made that s non-issue long ago. He said that there are now several varieties that can go from planting to mature in 60 days. I can't verify that, but considering how corn has been manipulated in recent years that certainly doesn't sound far fetched.
The next question would be seed supply of such hybrids. No idea on that either.
Just came back from lunch and noticed that a lot of fields had bare spots that were probably avoided during planting due to the soggy ground. Don't know if that will add up to substantial acres or not. My guess would be not.
Also don't know how much is still in storage. If I recall correctly last year was a super bin buster, so that excess may be enough to cover any shortfall.
lostnfound
(16,124 posts)Thats interesting point about accelerated maturation. 👍
TeamPooka
(24,123 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,480 posts)Scenario: Democrats win in 2020 and reestablish this ban. Republican make a huge deal of it for campaign fodder down the road, making it even harder for Democrats to win red districts. This is 100% a political ploy by GOP strategists.
The environmental progress we've made in the last several decades should not be reversible by the stoke of a pen by any President. Allowing these rules to be established, then reversed, then reestablished is insanity. Congress should somehow step in and firm these rules into law.
Obviously we need to continue drifting away from fossil fuels completely and stop adulterating the supply chain for food products like corn. Whether we agree with ethanol use or not, the established environmental rules should not be used as political tokens to score campaign points. Republicans are on the losing end of these arguments but can't seem to stop playing laissez-faire politics with our environment and health.
KY......
The Mouth
(3,118 posts)that *anything* that can be created or accomplished by executive order can generally be undone by executive order.
It cuts both ways. But once something is in place for two or more terms it usually is pretty secure.
But generally, be it a great or a horrible thing, unless it goes through Congress, if one president can do it, the next can undo it...
Liberty Belle
(9,525 posts)Your engine can actually be destroyed if the ethanol content in the fuel you use is too high. Thats one reason AAA has come out against the new 15% ethanol blends. Theyre only supposed to be used in the most recent vehicles. But a lot of consumers are confused about the difference, and there likely will be many cases where E15 is fueled into a vehicle not designed to handle it. In some cases, the cost to replace the engine in a vehicle is more expensive than just purchasing a new car. And the large majority of insurance companies do not provide coverage for these types of damages and losses, so you are on your own if this happens to you.
Vinca
(50,150 posts)It's a shame the cult will lap this up and buy every bit of it.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,266 posts)Within our lifetimes? Our grandchildren's lifetimes?
Vinca
(50,150 posts)That's my prediction, and well over 2100 before we stop seeing pre-2076 older cars on a daily basis.
hatrack
(59,386 posts)Not very fucking much.
How many people in the audience were corn farmers?
Not very fucking many.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Are these the people who could not attend the Biden rally, so settled for Agent Orange's? Some people must like listening to this crazy president drone on and on about everything he knows nothing about.
LogicFirst
(571 posts)so they can breathe filthy summer air. The current EPA will never admit any increase in pollution, filing "feel good" reports of clean air.
Hotler
(11,325 posts)other small equipment.
hunter
(38,240 posts)And then repopulated with their natural fauna, wolves and all...
The cult of the farmer and rural america needs to die.
No, this is not sound Democratic policy. I'm a radical environmentalist.
But I'll ALWAYS vote Democratic because Republicans are always worse, supporting bullshit like this.
Actually Republican don't give a shit about farmers, whether they live or die, their struggles, except as rubes they can con out of their votes -- making them vote against their own best interests and the people of the United States by bamboozling them with shit legislation like this.
I remember when rural people were skeptical of big New York City con men like Trump. What happened? I'm pretty sure it was Fox News and hate radio. Like the corn ethanol industry, commercial broadcasting needs to be shut down. Just a few big dirty money entities have captured entire radio spectrums for their own commercial, political, and religious purposes. Yet the radio spectrum belongs to the people, just like air. It's our right and our duty to keep it clean.
In the modern digital age, ANYONE ought to be able to open a radio or television station, limited only by the time they are willing to invest, and the size of the electric bill they are willing to pay. But only one station each, with limitations on commercial national syndicated content to maybe four hours a day, all other content having local origin -- local disc jockeys, local news people, locally produced commercial, locally produced shows.
exboyfil
(17,853 posts)Instead they are regularly planting soy beans in addition to the wheat and corn. Soybeans went from 60 million bushels in 2000 to 200 million bushels in 2014. It is the largest cash crop in North Dakota now (or was the year I looked at it).
cutroot
(859 posts)Turbineguy
(37,127 posts)Yeah, it harms our country, so it's good in that respect, but we all share the environment.
watoos
(7,142 posts)I will boycott it if I can. Once 1 gas station goes to 15% I suppose they will all go?
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Even E10 can wreck a boats fuel system. Hatred of ethanol fuel cuts across all partisan lines among boaters in Florida. E15 would be a disaster.
The upside? With all our boats is is easy and getting easier to find non ethanol fuel here. I burn it in my truck. While more expensive per gallon, the increase I get in mileage almost balances it out. Not quite. But at least my truck runs well.
There is a station in North Florida south of Tallahassee that sells 93 octane ethanol free. People with imported cars that require high octane drive 25 miles away to fill up there.
Totally off subject. I am a big supporter of electric cars and plan on getting one in the future. At least a hybrid. Are there any plans to make Hybrid trucks than can pull over 5000lbs? We are gonna need them.