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BumRushDaShow

(128,769 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:10 PM Jun 2019

Federal watchdog agency recommends removal of Kellyanne Conway from federal office

Source: Washington Post




The Office of Special Counsel has recommended the removal of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway from federal office for violating the Hatch Act, which bars federal employees from engaging in political activity in the course of their work.

The report submitted to President Trump found that Conway violated the Hatch Act on numerous occasions by "disparaging Democratic presidential candidates while speaking in her official capacity during television interviews and on social media." The counsel said Conway was a repeat offender and recommended that she be removed from federal office.

The Office of Special Counsel is charged with enforcing the Hatch Act and is not to be confused with now-former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's investigation. The office is run by Henry Kerner, whom Trump nominated to the post.

The White House responded by arguing that the special counsel's actions against Conway "are deeply flawed and violate her constitutional rights to free speech and due process." "Others, of all political views, have objected to the OSC's unclear and unevenly applied rules which have a chilling effect on free speech for all federal employees," deputy White House press secretary Steven Groves said in a statement. "Its decisions seem to be influenced by media pressure and liberal organizations, and perhaps OSC should be mindful of its own mandate to act in a fair, impartial, nonpolitical manner, and not misinterpret or weaponize the Hatch Act."

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/office-of-special-counsel-recommends-removal-of-kellyanne-conway-from-federal-office-for-violating-the-hatch-act/2019/06/13/0786ae2e-8df4-11e9-8f69-a2795fca3343_story.html



Full title: Federal watchdog agency recommends removal of Kellyanne Conway from federal office for violating the Hatch Act

Original article -

By Washington Post Staff
June 13 at 12:08 PM

The report submitted to President Trump found that the White House counselor violated the Hatch Act on numerous occasions by "disparaging Democratic presidential candidates while speaking in her official capacity during television interviews and on social media."

The agency said Conway was a repeat offender and recommended that she be removed from federal office.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2019/06/13/federal-watchdog-agency-recommends-removal-of-kellyanne-conway-from-federal-office-for-violating-the-hatch-act/?utm_term.751d1c8d44a7


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Federal watchdog agency recommends removal of Kellyanne Conway from federal office (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 OP
There are no rules in the Trump White House. madaboutharry Jun 2019 #1
Her support is as crediable as a pimp's whore testify at to his trial to ihis estemed chacter. olegramps Jun 2019 #30
But he only hires the 'best' people gohuskies Jun 2019 #2
They're the best people until they go against him, then they become losers oldsoftie Jun 2019 #39
in other words, in the peter principle WH, she will get promoted. nt Javaman Jun 2019 #3
Exactly. This is job insurance for KellyAnne. Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #37
White House Deputy Press Secretary Steven Groves responds: mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 #4
Of course the "Constitutional right to free speech" BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #5
I thought it was spelled consigliere... Ford_Prefect Jun 2019 #6
You Win Demon Dem Jun 2019 #7
Wow, surprised Barr didn't stop this before it got this far. Go Henry Kerner! machoneman Jun 2019 #8
Trump appointed Kerner! True Blue American Jun 2019 #25
I don't believe the OSC is under the jurisdiction of the DOJ onenote Jun 2019 #33
No shit, Sherlock... B Stieg Jun 2019 #9
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2019 #10
"her constitutional rights to free speech and due process" NastyRiffraff Jun 2019 #11
Well you must be beyond exhausted by now lunatica Jun 2019 #14
I am! NastyRiffraff Jun 2019 #46
White House agrees they are sending a message that they're undermining the rule of law muriel_volestrangler Jun 2019 #12
Perhaps the Office of Special Counsel should recommend removing Trump from federal office as well. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #13
The Hatch Act doesn't apply to the president or vice president onenote Jun 2019 #35
Would be nice ck4829 Jun 2019 #50
By That Standard DallasNE Jun 2019 #15
Agreed onenote Jun 2019 #36
Probably why she resigned. Meadowoak Jun 2019 #51
And again..... BigOleDummy Jun 2019 #16
+1, but we don't have to just move on ck4829 Jun 2019 #49
That excuse from the White House is a lie duforsure Jun 2019 #17
Tiger 58 Tiger58 Jun 2019 #18
More counts of abuse of power: 🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑 Marcuse Jun 2019 #19
So, Freedom of Speech allows her to say what she wants publicly as an administration official... aka-chmeee Jun 2019 #20
Exactly! BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #23
Link brings me back to same post? nt aka-chmeee Jun 2019 #28
Should take you to post #5! BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #34
Ah! Post #5 seems to have disappeared! nt aka-chmeee Jun 2019 #40
If you are using an app to read DU it might not be showing replies to other posts in the thread... BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #41
Curiouser and curiouser. Viewing in Firefox on laptop. aka-chmeee Jun 2019 #42
If someone is on your ignore list then that could be it too. BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #43
That sign is scary! True Blue American Jun 2019 #26
Good catch ck4829 Jun 2019 #48
Kick dalton99a Jun 2019 #21
Rules don't apply to the Prince of Whales' pod LanternWaste Jun 2019 #22
Whales rule! riversedge Jun 2019 #29
Womp! Womp! Raster Jun 2019 #24
A pox on her, saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #27
The largest book advance of all will be for Kellyanne when she is done with Trump. keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #31
Goodbye Henry, we hardly knew ye. Thank you for your service. Marcuse Jun 2019 #32
That could apply duforsure Jun 2019 #38
Following CREW's complaints, the Office of Special Counsel has recommended.... mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 #44
The White House'll get on that... right after complying with lawful subpoenas. n/t Beartracks Jun 2019 #45
K&R ck4829 Jun 2019 #47

gohuskies

(1,156 posts)
2. But he only hires the 'best' people
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jun 2019

This (mal)administration is more corrupt than Tammany Hall's Boss Tweed, Warren Harding's Teapot Dome, Nixon's Watergate, Reagan's Iran Contra or GWB's Iraq war combined. The stain this fool will leave will forever damage the United States than we can imagine until he is forcibly removed from office.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,379 posts)
4. White House Deputy Press Secretary Steven Groves responds:
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:31 PM
Jun 2019
Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted

The White House has announced that its staff is above the law.



White House Deputy Press Secretary Steven Groves responds:


BumRushDaShow

(128,769 posts)
5. Of course the "Constitutional right to free speech"
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jun 2019

doesn't apply to people like Peter Strzok however and the hypocrisy will be completely lost on them.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
8. Wow, surprised Barr didn't stop this before it got this far. Go Henry Kerner!
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019

Kerner for the Senate as a Dem!

onenote

(42,685 posts)
33. I don't believe the OSC is under the jurisdiction of the DOJ
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jun 2019

It is, I believe, an independent government agency.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. "her constitutional rights to free speech and due process"
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jun 2019

Nobody is calling for her to be arrested, which could violate her free speech rights. It's not what she said, it's that she said it as a Federal employee. They're recommending she be removed as an employee.

As for due process, she doesn't have a Constitutional right to be a White House employee. Nobody does. They can be fired for anything, or nothing.

I just get tired of people, specifically people in the White House who should know better, incorrectly throwing around terms like free speech and due process.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
12. White House agrees they are sending a message that they're undermining the rule of law
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:20 PM
Jun 2019
In a statement announcing the recommendation, the independent Office of Special Counsel (OSC) said that her "violations, if left unpunished, would send a message to all federal employees that they need not abide by the Hatch Act's restrictions.

"Her actions thus erode the principal foundation of our democratic system - the rule of law."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48625988

So the White House's reply is saying "yes, we are sending a message to all federal employees that they need not abide by the Hatch Act's restrictions. Why, yes, we are trying to erode the principal foundation of our democratic system - the rule of law. It was fairly obvious already, wasn't it?"

Lonestarblue

(9,967 posts)
13. Perhaps the Office of Special Counsel should recommend removing Trump from federal office as well.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:25 PM
Jun 2019

He violates the Hatch Act daily with his nasty comments about Democratic candidates. Kellyanne is merely following the lead of her boss, so the OSC recommendation should apply to Trump also.

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
16. And again.....
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jun 2019

…. nothing will happen and we'll just move on to the next illegal and or unethical "scandal". Can we even call them scandals anymore? A more sinister interpretation of the WHs and GOPs actions (or inactions as the case may be) is they know the fix is in already for the upcoming 2020 elections and just don't care a bit what we as a Nation of Laws and standards think or say anymore.

As an aside, I wonder what her husband will have to say about this. Or not.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
17. That excuse from the White House is a lie
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jun 2019

While working in her capacity in her official position she isn't allowed that option,period, and they know that. She ignored the law repeatedly with no regard for the law. The excuse given isn't applicable. She should be threatened with prosecution, or she'll liKe others in this administration will continue then do it even more.

aka-chmeee

(1,132 posts)
20. So, Freedom of Speech allows her to say what she wants publicly as an administration official...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jun 2019

but Lisa Page and Peter Stzrok can't in private messages?

BumRushDaShow

(128,769 posts)
41. If you are using an app to read DU it might not be showing replies to other posts in the thread...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:12 PM
Jun 2019

unless you set it to threaded. It is a reply to post #4.

aka-chmeee

(1,132 posts)
42. Curiouser and curiouser. Viewing in Firefox on laptop.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:26 PM
Jun 2019

See neither #4 or #5. Anyway, your second reply explains all. and

BumRushDaShow

(128,769 posts)
43. If someone is on your ignore list then that could be it too.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jun 2019

(and anyone replying to them goes down the rabbit hole too... I know we have beat a dead horse... ) - here it is-

Star Member BumRushDaShow (44,102 posts)
5. Of course the "Constitutional right to free speech"

doesn't apply to people like Peter Strzok however and the hypocrisy will be completely lost on them.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. Rules don't apply to the Prince of Whales' pod
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jun 2019

That will be the implicit reason... regardless of the tortured rationalizations to the contrary.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
27. A pox on her,
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jun 2019

may she loose every natural hair on her head to alopecia. She is already a "bald faced liar" in my book of the good, bad and fug ugly.

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
31. The largest book advance of all will be for Kellyanne when she is done with Trump.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:27 PM
Jun 2019

The largest book advance of all will be for Kellyanne when she is done with Trump.

She sold herself for money and fame, first with Cruz totally against Trump, and then switched over for more money and fame when Trump looked more favorable in the campaigns.

Her loyalty is for sale.

Was/is it irony when Kellyanne prostituted herself for money for Cruz or when she prostitutes herself for money for Trump?

https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2016/08/19/here-s-how-trump-s-new-campaign-manager-attacked-him-cable-news-pundit/212524

Marcuse

(7,475 posts)
32. Goodbye Henry, we hardly knew ye. Thank you for your service.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jun 2019

“The question is not whether Conway was ‘championing the agenda of the president’ — who, it’s worth noting, actively supports Moore — but whether she was advocating against Jones,” Schaub explained. “Only in a world of alternative facts could Conway’s televised words amount to anything other than advocacy against Jones. In short, the case against Conway is airtight; or it would be, that is, if President Trump hadn’t appointed Kerner to lead the OSC.”
[link:http://www.allthatsnews.com/articles/politics/did-white-house-aide-kellyanne-conway-violate-hatch-act|

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
38. That could apply
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:59 PM
Jun 2019

To all of them in the White House now too. All of them are corrupt, and grifting off the American taxpayers. Didn't they all go to Briton on our dime, and rented four limo's two days for a million of our dollars, and wonder how much is funneled back into their pockets.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,379 posts)
44. Following CREW's complaints, the Office of Special Counsel has recommended....
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jun 2019
Walter Shaub Retweeted

BREAKING: Following CREW's complaints, the Office of Special Counsel has recommended Kellyanne Conway be removed from federal office due to her repeated violations of the Hatch Act


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