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Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:00 PM

Iranian boat fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)In the hours before the attack on the two tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday, the Iranians spotted a US drone flying overhead and launched a surface-to-air missile at the unmanned aircraft, a US official told CNN.

The missile missed the drone and fell into the water, the official said.

Prior to taking fire, the American MQ-9 drone observed Iranian vessels closing in on the tankers, the official added, though the source did not say whether the unmanned aircraft saw the boats conducting an actual attack.

Still, it is the first claim that the US has information of Iranian movements prior to the attack.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html



This is not looking good. In the article it mentions that the UK apparently believes that Iran is responsible. It also quotes a diplomatic source of a US ally (without specifying whether it's the UK or a different nation) saying that they believe Iran is responsible.

Bolton and Pompeo are licking their chops at the thought of going after Iran. An earlier article on CNN had something about Trump wanting to avoid "foreign entanglements" but with the way Dolt 45 flip-flops, who the hell knows.

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Reply Iranian boat fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says (Original post)
Jedi Guy Jun 2019 OP
procon Jun 2019 #1
Jedi Guy Jun 2019 #2
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #3
Iliyah Jun 2019 #4
atreides1 Jun 2019 #5
PSPS Jun 2019 #12
SCVDem Jun 2019 #6
bahrbearian Jun 2019 #7
sandensea Jun 2019 #13
area51 Jun 2019 #16
walkingman Jun 2019 #8
Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #9
Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #10
hack89 Jun 2019 #25
procon Jun 2019 #11
asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #14
marble falls Jun 2019 #15
tenderfoot Jun 2019 #17
Ford_Prefect Jun 2019 #18
McKim Jun 2019 #19
Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #20
LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #21
jpak Jun 2019 #22
BlueIdaho Jun 2019 #23
Turbineguy Jun 2019 #24
onecaliberal Jun 2019 #26

Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:10 PM

1. Link? nt

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Response to procon (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:11 PM

2. Gah, copy/paste failed me. Fixed it. Thanks, good catch! N/T

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:11 PM

3. read: Iranian war boats on daily maneuvers fires on strategically placed drones.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:11 PM

4. ummmm, there is another story that said it never happened.

This administration lies. And I guess they don't care that many will die because they want Iran's oil.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:15 PM

5. Crew reported "flying object"!

https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/crew-on-japan-tanker-saw-flying-object-before-attack-company-head-119061400495_1.html


"The crew of a Japanese-owned tanker hit in an apparent attack in the Gulf of Oman saw a "flying object" before a second blast on board, the operator's head said Friday."


The MQ-9 Reaper is the primary offensive strike unmanned aerial vehicle for the U.S. Air Force.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:40 PM

12. "the operator's head said" -- Geesh, what an awkward construction that is

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:16 PM

6. We DO NOT believe your bullshit!

 

Gulf of Tonkin

Iraq and now Iran

War mongering to stay in power and in the money.

I don't trust my government and that's a sad statement!

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:22 PM

7. Why doesn't Iran just go home and leave U.S. alone, we never hurt anyone.

Sanctions are War Crimes

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:41 PM

13. +1

John "new Pearl Harbor" Bolton has run out of fresh lies a long time ago already.

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:20 PM

16. +1

Fake News!

Little hands Donnie never stopped to think how we could throw that phrase back in his face.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:22 PM

8. I don't believe a thing this administration says about anything. I think as the noose tightens

he will start a war and America will be all "Support the Troops" and Walmart will be selling the yellow ribbons. America loves it's wars.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:31 PM

9. In the age of deep fakes, something like this could be manufactured...

The conspiracy would be limited to only a few people, so easier to get away with.

It's simply ILLOGICAL that Iran would have done this, an attack on a Japanese ship with PM Abe in Tehran.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:36 PM

10. You can't shoot at drones?

Around here in very rural America, some old timers don't know what drones are. If a small helicopter thingy comes flying overhead, it gets shot at. It's common knowledge it's not safe to fly drones in the woods around here.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:40 PM

25. This drone was the size of a small airplane

The IRG know exactly what US drones look like. The are competent and well trained.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:38 PM

11. This smells like another Gulf of Tonkin incident,

or a remake of Cheney's WMD scam.

The entire unverifiable article is attributed to some unnamed US official, an unidentified person from the Pentagon, Trump's Defense Dept., and a Trump parroting diplomat to the UN...meaning Trump flacks the lot of 'em!

WTF is a "senior diplomatic source of a US ally", could they be anymore vague and suspicious?

What Trump's lackey said that might actually point to the truth was the US drone overhead. What clandestine role might it have played in those flying objects the tanker captain witnessed as his ship was struck.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 08:14 PM

14. My, my my...

The US has recently deployed the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the Strait of Hormuz in response to a "number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings" from Iran, a US official with direct knowledge of the situation told CNN at the time.

Just how many destroyers and battleships and subs come along with a strike group...

The Carrier Strike Group (CSG), composed of roughly 7,500 personnel, an aircraft carrier, at least one cruiser, a flotilla of six to 10 destroyers and/or frigates, and a carrier air wing of 65 to 70 aircraft.

A carrier strike group also, on occasion, includes submarines, attached logistics ships and a supply ship. The carrier strike group commander operationally reports to the commander of the numbered fleet, who is operationally responsible for the area of waters in which the carrier strike group is operating.

That's some kind of SMALL, so called Iranian boat, pulling SOMETHING from a tanker...now, just how do you suppose it got through....

History repeating..of course it is...Gulf of Tonkin...Iraq....this is BS....

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:09 PM

15. They just happened to miss that detail yesterday. Now I am sure the drone returned fire ...

and hit that ship.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:34 PM

17. ...

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

18. One of the ship captains has disputed the reports of mines.

He said they took incoming fire before the explosion.

The Reaper is a very well armed, remotely piloted attack aircraft which is well capable of attacking ground and sea targets. They are not easily tracked by radar since they are smaller than a typical single-engine aircraft. Being piloted remotely there are no radio conversations to be overhead, either. Just sayin'...

I feel it is far more likely this was a provocation provided courtesy of our friends the Neo-Cons, or an agent of their friends, or an interested party stirring mischief. Iran would not attack a Japanese flagged ship while Abe was meeting with them. They want to trade with Japan and can gain nothing by such actions.

So what we have is something that neither walks like a duck nor quacks like one.

However, Pompeo claims there is Intel that confirms Iran as the fowl in question. A man who has previously disputed with Intel agencies on other issues now insists they have proof which we MUST believe without question. The last time I recall the same voices saying this we were told to believe that WMD were still in Iraq and pointed at the USA. I also note that neither the proof nor the source of that proof has been made public.

Kennedy had U-2 photos of missile installations in Cuba to make his case. Yet with all the US military patrol aircraft, ship, and land-based radar, satellite and Awacs monitoring of the area in question, which is among the busiest commercial sea lanes, we have no record of any kind at all. That dog don't hunt.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 12:51 AM

19. US Officials Say...............

When you see ďUS Officials say.....Ē you know they are lying. Iran has a right to be in the Persian Gulf, it is their territory and sphere of influence. Why are we there? To start a war to distract from Trumpís problems and to carry out the PNAC plan to destroy and control the countries of the Middle East to get their resources and etc. Donít buy the lies!!!!! If we donít stop them this time, they will stop at nothing to get what they want, no matter how many will die for their crimes.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 12:52 AM

20. This is awesome!

 

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 03:20 PM

21. This tension could have been avoided if Donnie Dumbfuck hadn't ripped up the agrreement

From the article:

The Trump administration predicted that the pressure from the United States would bring Iran to the negotiating table, but European leaders disagreed, believing it would empower the hardliners, the source continued.

aaaaaaaaaand guess who was wrong again.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 03:48 PM

22. Iran sent small boats to rescue the tanker crew - that is what the Reaper saw

And there is ***(((NO)))*** footage of the attack itself.

How come?????

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:09 PM

23. Wag the dog...

Havenít we seen this all before?

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:38 PM

24. Holy smokes!

I just realized!

I have forgotten all about the Russian election interference, Trump's obstruction of justice and impeachment!

If it is Iran, it seems possible that it's over-zealousness of the Republican Guard.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:46 PM

26. Lies and the lying liars who tell them. I do not believe one syllable that escapes their mouths.

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