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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 09:51 AM Jul 2019

Trump revisits Pledge of Allegiance controversy: People are 'sick & tired' of 'stupidity and...

Source: The Hill

Trump revisits Pledge of Allegiance controversy: People are 'sick and tired' of 'stupidity and disloyalty'

BY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 07/11/19 09:27 AM EDT

President Trump on Thursday returned to the debate over the Pledge of Allegiance in a Minnesota city, saying the practice is "under siege."




A group of protestors gathered outside the city council building in St. Paul, Minn. on Monday to demand the Pledge of Allegiance be restored as a requirement at council meetings, the Pioneer Press in St. Paul reported.

The session they protested was meant to re-address the council’s unanimous decision to drop the pledge requirement from meetings.

Trump in a tweet earlier this week called the protestors "patriots."

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/452574-trump-eyes-pledge-of-allegiance-controversy-in-minnesota-people-are
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Trump revisits Pledge of Allegiance controversy: People are 'sick & tired' of 'stupidity and... (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
Dude, Minnesota gave us Al Franken and Amy Klobatur. no_hypocrisy Jul 2019 #1
To hell with abiding by the SCOTUS, Constitution, or Congress!!!! Freethinker65 Jul 2019 #2
Patriots? Non-citizens do not have to honor the flag. keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #3
She's actually a citizen. eggplant Jul 2019 #9
Actually this is so true PatSeg Jul 2019 #4
Focus on surfaces and symbols, ignore depth and substance. mwb970 Jul 2019 #5
Well, what else do conservatives have to offer? Yavin4 Jul 2019 #6
He is right about people being sick and tired of stupidity and disloyalty dustyscamp Jul 2019 #7
Says the personification of stupidity and disloyalty. dalton99a Jul 2019 #8
I demand that Trump and everyone in his administration say the Pledge before every meeting. subterranean Jul 2019 #10
Patriotism is the last refuge BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #11
As soon as the U.S. ceases to be a rogue superpower-- Alkene Jul 2019 #12
I'm sick and tired of the fake patriotic bullshit coming from the right. Initech Jul 2019 #13
The last refuge of a scoundrel. dchill Jul 2019 #14
Fo sho! Initech Jul 2019 #15
Loyalty to the Constitution? Nope. truthisfreedom Jul 2019 #16
this reply nails it Skittles Jul 2019 #17
The old gaslighter is still at it Norbert Jul 2019 #18
The "Pledge," like the flag are merely symbols, nothing more. Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #19
EFF YOU, TRAITOR ! ! ! trusty elf Jul 2019 #20

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
4. Actually this is so true
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 09:58 AM
Jul 2019

We ARE "sick and tired of stupidity and disloyalty". Everything he says tends to stick to him, like the old childhood taunt "I'm rubber, you're glue".

mwb970

(11,299 posts)
5. Focus on surfaces and symbols, ignore depth and substance.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:06 AM
Jul 2019

This is what conservatives ALWAYS do! Remember the Great Flag Lapel Pin Controversy of 2008? They fiercely defend the Pledge. They are enraged by flag burning. Yet their hero in the White House is in the process of disassembling and destroying everything these symbols stand for!

It's maddening. Weren't these awful people supposed to be Raptured away years ago? I am SO ready to be Left Behind.

Yavin4

(35,354 posts)
6. Well, what else do conservatives have to offer?
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jul 2019

It's kind of hard to get people to vote for more tax cuts for the rich on that issue alone.

dustyscamp

(2,221 posts)
7. He is right about people being sick and tired of stupidity and disloyalty
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:52 AM
Jul 2019

His party needs to be voted out and dissolved

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
10. I demand that Trump and everyone in his administration say the Pledge before every meeting.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:31 AM
Jul 2019

If they don't, that is just more proof of their disloyalty to this country!

Seriously, I bet Trump wouldn't be able to recite the Pledge accurately without reading it (and maybe not even then).

Alkene

(752 posts)
12. As soon as the U.S. ceases to be a rogue superpower--
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jul 2019

committed to multiple illegal, immoral, elective wars of never-ending aggression and occupation-- I might consider my allegiance to it, but probably not because I'm not keen on associating myself with the murders of hundreds of thousands, torture and the horrendous decline in quality of life our MIC imposes on the world in order to prop up the petrodollar and extract unimaginable wealth for the few.

But I'm not bitter.

Initech

(99,909 posts)
13. I'm sick and tired of the fake patriotic bullshit coming from the right.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jul 2019

Not everything needs to give you an Americagasm patriotic boner every time you so much as breathe. And any time anyone so much as looks at a flag funny, that doesn't mean they're disrespecting it. The first amendment guarantees a right to protest, you know, and that's one of the most patriotic things you can do.

truthisfreedom

(23,113 posts)
16. Loyalty to the Constitution? Nope.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:37 PM
Jul 2019

Accepting help for elections from a foreign country? Check.
Lip service to patriotism? Check.

Skittles

(152,964 posts)
17. this reply nails it
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:47 PM
Jul 2019

Trump knows the easiest way to manipulate his base is to keep them all torqued up with a freedom-boner and in a constant state of outrage over feelings issues and things that aren’t even happening while he actively dismantles the Constitution and the system of checks & balances.

Norbert

(6,030 posts)
18. The old gaslighter is still at it
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jul 2019

It's happening in a small part of Minneapolis so, of course, the rest of the country won't be far behind unless we do something. And never mind the mulling over setting fire to the constitution.

Get used to it. The so-called War on Christmas will be restoked on cue in a few months.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
19. The "Pledge," like the flag are merely symbols, nothing more.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:41 PM
Jul 2019

And as George Carlin famously said, "I'll leave symbols to the symbol-minded."

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