House votes to hold Attorney General Barr, Commerce Secretary Ross in contempt for failing to comply
Source: Washington Post
The House on Wednesday voted to hold Attorney General William P. Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross in criminal contempt for failing to provide documents related to the Trump administration's efforts to add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census, escalating the fight between Democrats and the White House over congressional oversight. The 230-to-198 vote along party lines came one day after the House approved a resolution condemning President Trump's racist remarks aimed at four minority congresswomen.
After a string of legal defeats, Trump last week abruptly retreated from his efforts to add the question to the census, announcing that he will instead order federal agencies to provide the Commerce Department with records on the numbers of citizens and noncitizens in the country. But lawmakers continue to demand answers about the motivations behind the administration's 19-month effort to ask about citizenship status on the decennial survey. In May, new evidence emerged suggesting that the question was crafted specifically to give an electoral advantage to Republicans and whites. The Trump administration has said it needs the information to better enforce the Voting Rights Act.
Barr and Ross wrote to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) earlier Wednesday saying they "strongly oppose" the resolution and asked her to postpone the vote so they could continue working through a legally mandated process toward a compromise. "By taking this action, the House is both unnecessarily undermining inter-branch comity and degrading the constitutional separation of powers and its own institutional integrity," the two Cabinet members wrote.
The impact of the contempt vote is largely symbolic. Those found in criminal contempt are normally referred to the Justice Department for prosecution; in this instance, the Justice Department would not prosecute itself.
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Full headline: House votes to hold Attorney General Barr, Commerce Secretary Ross in contempt for failing to comply with subpoena on 2020 Census
Original article -
July 17 at 6:25 PM
BREAKING: House votes to hold Attorney General Barr, Commerce Secretary Ross in contempt for failing to comply with subpoena on 2020 Census
The House Oversight Committee had sought documents from Attorney General William P. Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross on the Trump administration's plan to add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census.
While the House-passed resolution holds the men in criminal contempt, it's unlikely the Justice Department would take action against Barr and Ross.
This story will be updated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-to-vote-to-hold-barr-ross-in-contempt-over-2020-census-citizenship-question/2019/07/17/8dbeb35c-a89c-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html?utm_term=.0b1c9c2e21f0
DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)in2herbs
(2,944 posts)and/or not to hand the matter off to outside counsel. Barr will only be able to explain himself by talking about what he doesn't want to talk about.
riversedge
(70,092 posts)had it off to someone else. damn.
........The impact of the contempt vote is largely symbolic. Those found in criminal contempt are normally referred to the Justice Department for prosecution; in this instance, the Justice Department would not prosecute itself.
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)It is a meaningless gesture unless it is taken to court.
docgee
(870 posts)We cannot let them get away with breaking the laws like we let Bush and Cheney off.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)to God's ears, as the saying goes.
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)For lying to the JudiciaryCommittee?!?!
sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)exempt from all subpoenas and immune from testifying.
Maraya1969
(22,464 posts)jvill
(213 posts)... i'd love for the Dem leadership to start messaging what that is.
If it's "wave our hands around a lot and hope Trump doesn't actually blow up the whole thing" is really the plan, then they've got to try much, much harder.
FakeNoose
(32,596 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Mueller is a truth teller but he isn't going to volunteer information. The most important aspect of the Mueller hearing is the questions that are asked. Dems need to come prepared, Mueller is no show boat.
Dems need to bring in Andrew Weissman one of Mueller's bulldogs, to testify, if they want a show.
calimary
(81,127 posts)I understand those make great toilet paper substitutes in this White House.
watoos
(7,142 posts)And have so far filed one.
I give credit to the ACLU, I have been sending them money, they are beating Trump in the courts.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)calimary
(81,127 posts)The impeachment itself will stand. It will stay on the books even if the Senate doesn't convict. The impeachment STAYS IN PLACE, and ON THE RECORD.
Remember: Bill Clinton has that hung around his neck forever. They couldn't convict and remove him, either, and he remained President. But the impeachment stood. Didn't matter that he wasn't convicted and removed in the Senate. That did not change the fact that he was impeached in the House of Reps.
That's all you need. And you'll leave a mark on his name for all of history.
watoos
(7,142 posts)because I fully expect Barr to shit can the Epstein investigation. Proving that Trump is a pedophile would be a road too far for his base.
Barr lied to Congress, he needs to be impeached.
The Wizard
(12,536 posts)The Governor will pardon him. If he gets charged under NY law his prison time could be degrading.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)WTH?
yaesu
(8,020 posts)looks bad for party unity.
watoos
(7,142 posts)maybe it was a protest vote because Barr isn't going to prosecute himself. Honestly, a civil contempt charge would have probably had more teeth.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,760 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)mandated process toward a compromise."
Her answer should be "put on another shift and git'er done."
Bayard
(22,011 posts)"the House is both unnecessarily undermining inter-branch comity and degrading the constitutional separation of powers and its own institutional integrity".
That is just rich! No shame, no concept of irony.