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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:47 AM Sep 2012

SECRET VIDEO: On Israel, Romney Trashes Two-State Solution

Source: Mother Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ukhFBJgrZxM

At the private fundraiser held May 17 where Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney candidly spoke about political strategy—noting that he saw half of the American electorate as freeloaders and "victims" who do not believe in personal responsibility—he discussed various foreign policy positions, sharing views that he does not express in public, including his belief that peace in the Middle East is not possible and a Palestinian state is not feasible.

Mother Jones has obtained video of Romney at this intimate dinner and has confirmed its authenticity. The event was held at the home of controversial private equity manager Marc Leder in Boca Raton, Florida, with tickets costing $50,000 a plate. During the freewheeling conversation, a donor asked Romney how the "Palestinian problem" can be solved. Romney immediately launched into a detailed reply, asserting that the Palestinians have "no interest whatsoever in establishing peace, and that the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish."

Romney spoke of "the Palestinians" as a united bloc of one mindset, and he said: "I look at the Palestinians not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes, committed to the destruction and elimination of Israel, and these thorny issues, and I say there's just no way."

(...)
Romney was indicating he did not believe in the peace process and, as president, would aim to postpone significant action: "So what you do is, you say, you move things along the best way you can. You hope for some degree of stability, but you recognize that this is going to remain an unsolved problem…and we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately, somehow, something will happen and resolve it."

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/romney-secret-video-israeli-palestinian-middle-east-peace




Caught again -- Can we expect another stuttering deer-in-headlights press conference from Willard to explain why he told his donors he has zero interest in pursuing peace?

Though I'm sure warmonger Sheldon Adelson loves the sound of this one.
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SECRET VIDEO: On Israel, Romney Trashes Two-State Solution (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2012 OP
K&R Firebrand Gary Sep 2012 #1
Oh wow! What a dumb thing to say. titaniumsalute Sep 2012 #2
Who the hell is this fool and why is he on my teevee? deminks Sep 2012 #3
a piece of filth incapable of human empathy Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #4
This is better than 24 hour commercial free rock and roll! rgbecker Sep 2012 #5
Actually, FlaGranny Sep 2012 #6
he seems to have no trouble taking openly and articulately when he is among his own kind Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #7
Interesting you would say that, because the first thing that came to mind truth2power Sep 2012 #18
I was somewhat shocked at how loosey-goosey hifiguy Sep 2012 #26
This is the message I have been trying to get across defacto7 Sep 2012 #46
I wondered whether it was a video taken by a security camera installed in the house. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #42
Not a good actor, can't remember his lines SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #20
Seems AIPAC has a direct pipeline to his brain. Selatius Sep 2012 #8
mitwit =Manchurein Candidate goclark Sep 2012 #9
This is more Sheldon Adelson iandhr Sep 2012 #24
+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #31
the man with no plan. iemitsu Sep 2012 #10
What? NOLALady Sep 2012 #11
Yes We Can Kick The Can Down The Road! reflection Sep 2012 #13
yeah "something will happen and resolve it" newspeak Sep 2012 #33
This stuff does help him with conservatives hexola Sep 2012 #12
Voter Fraud SCVDem Sep 2012 #14
#1 and K and R goclark Sep 2012 #29
Yes yes yes defacto7 Sep 2012 #47
This one is worse than yesterday's - he should just go home and STFU! George II Sep 2012 #15
I am more shocked by the $50,000.00 price tag for selling the work stiffs out. olegramps Sep 2012 #16
I would love to see a list of the attendees. nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #27
He was here in Salt Lake City yesterday.... defacto7 Sep 2012 #48
"This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the Earth" -- "Ruthless People" n/t Bossy Monkey Sep 2012 #17
Dammit, now I want to watch that movie again! kentauros Sep 2012 #44
"Do I look that stupid?" "Yes, you do!" Bossy Monkey Sep 2012 #45
If that doesn't get each DUer to take 5 people to vote on Nov 6, nothing will SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #19
He doesn't realize that a two state solution is essential for Israel's survival. iandhr Sep 2012 #21
That doesn't matter defacto7 Sep 2012 #49
Substitute "Republicans" for "Palestinians" and beac Sep 2012 #22
"on the other hand ... I ignored the opinion of a former Repub Secretary of State muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #23
It's good to see the mask finally come off for all to see Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #32
Keep digging, Willard, hifiguy Sep 2012 #25
There's just something disgusting about, EnviroBat Sep 2012 #28
Really, they sure had some bad table manners... Ash_F Sep 2012 #40
I am profoundly disgusted with this horrible person. RiverNoord Sep 2012 #30
His views on the Palestinians are very similar to the views of some of the pro-war crowd on DU cpwm17 Sep 2012 #34
k&r. this needs more airtime. magical thyme Sep 2012 #35
We will never have peace as long as we treat Palestinians as if they are savages. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #36
Keep in mind Mittens isn't talking about a "one state solution" either azurnoir Sep 2012 #37
What is Really Scary oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #38
hear, hear! defacto7 Sep 2012 #50
Romney's right. The two-state solution has problems. Ash_F Sep 2012 #39
Romney Stewland Sep 2012 #41
I doubt this will in itself directly hurt him with the public in the short term. however, Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #43

deminks

(11,014 posts)
3. Who the hell is this fool and why is he on my teevee?
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:59 AM
Sep 2012

Worse than Palin. I did not think that was possible. A joke, and not a funny one.

rgbecker

(4,830 posts)
5. This is better than 24 hour commercial free rock and roll!
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:24 AM
Sep 2012

The hits just keep coming.

Romney is not ready for prime time.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
6. Actually,
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:34 AM
Sep 2012

this is the first time we've seen him as an articulate, confident speaker with ideas - no matter how revolting the ideas - the real Mitt at last. Now we see the reason he is so hesitant and stumbling over answering the simplest of questions - he has to remember not to tell the truth.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
18. Interesting you would say that, because the first thing that came to mind
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:41 AM
Sep 2012

when he started speaking was how uncharacteristically articulate he sounded. I guess he was quite comfortable with that crowd.

BTW, the quality of that video was remarkable. I'm always curious as to how people who work undercover are able to carry out their tasks. It seemed like the camera was stabilized somehow. Well, kudos to whomever did it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. I was somewhat shocked at how loosey-goosey
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:58 AM
Sep 2012

he was on that recording. No stumbling or phoniness at all. This is the real monster behind the mask he affects when addressing the lower orders.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
46. This is the message I have been trying to get across
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:31 PM
Sep 2012

since I've been here at DU. He is NOT what he seems.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. I wondered whether it was a video taken by a security camera installed in the house.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:00 PM
Sep 2012

Is the camera pretty much focused on the podium of Romney or does it move around? It seems to zoom in and out, but does it move around?









Selatius

(20,441 posts)
8. Seems AIPAC has a direct pipeline to his brain.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:41 AM
Sep 2012

Personally, I don't think there will be a two-state solution, but for far different reasons than Willard. As long as Palestinians remain a fractured group and as long as the Israeli far-right exploits it by continuing to seize land and build more illegal settlements on that land and encourages the continuation of this trend, no good will come out of this except more suffering and repression.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
24. This is more Sheldon Adelson
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:51 AM
Sep 2012

AIPAC is too "liberal" for Adelson.

He stopped supporting them when they officially supported a two state solution.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
10. the man with no plan.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:35 AM
Sep 2012

guess even romney doesn't expect himself to win. if he did he would have a more sophisticated understanding of the situation in the levant.
what romney knows about the holy land he learned from the book of morman.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
33. yeah "something will happen and resolve it"
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:53 PM
Sep 2012

hmmm, like mass genocide? like an exodus, people fleeing from even more encroaching settlements?

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
12. This stuff does help him with conservatives
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:56 AM
Sep 2012

Its a niche group really - but Freeper types will feel more comfortable with Romney after hearing this.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
14. Voter Fraud
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:26 AM
Sep 2012

I demand the best hackers be employed at the computer voting centers to lock down the systems against manipulation.

It's the standard magicians misdirection putting all the attention at the ballot box and making everyone forget about the biggest possible way to meaningfully mess with the numbers. It's already proven the computer vote is not secure.

With Rmoneys money and disdain for We The People, this must be a priority.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
16. I am more shocked by the $50,000.00 price tag for selling the work stiffs out.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:36 AM
Sep 2012

He probably could have got $250,000 at least. That is a small investment that will bring them 100 times fold. Just, admit it. The plutocrats own us lock, stop and barrel. What is amazing is that working class Joe-six-packs are so damn stupid that they will vote for this unmitigated bastard along with Ryan, the worshiper of Ayn Rand's atheistic philosophy that the poor should be exterminated like vermin.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
44. Dammit, now I want to watch that movie again!
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:32 PM
Sep 2012

"Either the chief is a complete moron and complete morons are rare... (she looks up at Earl Mott, a "complete moron&quot



SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
19. If that doesn't get each DUer to take 5 people to vote on Nov 6, nothing will
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:42 AM
Sep 2012

He is beyond dangerous. Although he is pretty handy for putting what we knew about Republicans out in the open.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
49. That doesn't matter
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:37 PM
Sep 2012

if what your constituents want is ARMAGEDDON. They don't want peace.

Don't think logical. It's not there.

beac

(9,992 posts)
22. Substitute "Republicans" for "Palestinians" and
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:48 AM
Sep 2012

"the Middle Class" for "Israel" and Mitt might actually have told the truth for once:


"I look at the Republicans not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes, committed to the destruction and elimination of the Middle Class, and these thorny issues, and I say there's just no way."

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
23. "on the other hand ... I ignored the opinion of a former Repub Secretary of State
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:49 AM
Sep 2012

so that I just stuck with my own prejudices".

Fuck, this man makes Dubya look like a nuanced foreign policy operator who was eager to get the best of all advice and bring peace. How else can you interpret a long diatribe against all Palestinians, which then ends up with:

On the other hand, I got a call from a former secretary of state. I won't mention which one it was, but this individual said to me, you know, I think there's a prospect for a settlement between the Palestinians and the Israelis after the Palestinian elections. I said, "Really?" And, you know, his answer was, "Yes, I think there's some prospect." And I didn't delve into it.


So a former secretary of state, who we will presume was a Republican, since they called Romney, thinks a settlement is possible, and Romney isn't even interested?

EnviroBat

(5,290 posts)
28. There's just something disgusting about,
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

not only the sound of this assholes voice, but the accompanying din of those rich pricks shoveling their 2500$/plate dinners down their maws. God Damn I hate fascists...

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
40. Really, they sure had some bad table manners...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:17 PM
Sep 2012

banging and clanging their silverware. I eat with better etiquette when I'm alone.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
30. I am profoundly disgusted with this horrible person.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:37 AM
Sep 2012

THE source of hostility in the Arab and much of the Muslim world against the United States is our deeply unbalanced policy on Israel, supporting its ongoing seizures of land occupied by the Palestinians for centuries. We have the power to end this and thereby begin the process of healing between the US and the people who just happen to live on top of the vast majority of the remaining petroleum reserves on the planet.

A statement like this would be ignorant and arrogant if made by an average American. Coming from a major party's candidate for the office of the Presidency of the United States, it is profoundly disturbing.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
34. His views on the Palestinians are very similar to the views of some of the pro-war crowd on DU
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 01:26 PM
Sep 2012

I see similar and worse views expressed on DU all of the time.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
35. k&r. this needs more airtime.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:13 PM
Sep 2012

We've seen Mitt's honest take on the 47%.

Now it's time for his take on the ME.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
37. Keep in mind Mittens isn't talking about a "one state solution" either
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:36 PM
Sep 2012

well unless that state is Israel but really what he's he's talking about a forever occupation

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
38. What is Really Scary
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:48 PM
Sep 2012

Is Mitt is not saying anything that the rank and file have been saying for months. When I venture out into yahoo and other domains, the commentators/bloggers are saying just what Mitt said. This concerns me is that it indicates that the unity of this country is on really shaky ground. While the Republicans cry out that Obama is indulging in class warfare and envy of the 1%, it seems the real Republican warriors are operating on envy of the 47%, who are presumably living the good life on their dime. It is the disdain that the Republican rank and file hold for their opponents that disheartens me. After the election, just how sore are the sore losers going to be, and who will be the victims?

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
39. Romney's right. The two-state solution has problems.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:10 PM
Sep 2012

So I am sure he will back a truly democratic, one-state solution, with 4 million Palestinians voting representatives into the Knesset.

For freedom, piece and democracy right?


ps - I love how he parroted the common right-wing lie that "Palestinians don't want peace", which makes anything you do to them ok, of course.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
41. Romney
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

If the Palistinians had the upper hand Romney would be pandering to them. Remember he flips and flops so can anyone believe anything he says.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
43. I doubt this will in itself directly hurt him with the public in the short term. however,
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:13 PM
Sep 2012

to foreign policy experts, media people, academic and others who are concerned about protecting American national interest -it makes him look like an absolutely dangerous buffoon. These are people who do influence public opinion in the long run.

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