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Zorro

(15,733 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:36 PM Aug 2019

Kirsten Gillibrand Drops Out of Democratic Presidential Race

Source: New York Times

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, who presented herself in the presidential race as a champion of women and families, said Wednesday that she was withdrawing from the Democratic primary after failing to qualify for a third debate next month — a development she described as fatal to her candidacy.

Ms. Gillibrand said in an interview that she would endorse another candidate in the primary but had not yet picked a favorite. Though she stopped short of saying she would endorse a woman, Ms. Gillibrand, who has made electing women to Congress a personal cause, said the next president had to be capable of uniting the country and suggested that a woman might be best suited for the job.

“I think that women have a unique ability to bring people together and heal this country,” Ms. Gillibrand said, adding, “I think a woman nominee would be inspiring and exciting.”

But she added: “I will support whoever the nominee is, and I will do whatever it takes to beat Trump.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/28/us/politics/kirsten-gillibrand-2020-drop-out.html

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Kirsten Gillibrand Drops Out of Democratic Presidential Race (Original Post) Zorro Aug 2019 OP
Good. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #1
Agreed. Subthread: does anyone around here think she's a serious VP candidate? I don't. TeamPooka Aug 2019 #32
Hell no... pangaia Aug 2019 #40
No. Not. Never. zentrum Aug 2019 #45
No way. Just compare her to Klobuchar ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2019 #69
NO, nope, nada, nyet amywalk Aug 2019 #76
Agreed DIVINEprividence Aug 2019 #34
People did bring that up last primary JonLP24 Aug 2019 #44
Somewhere, Al Franken is smiling... regnaD kciN Aug 2019 #2
Indeed... pay back is a bitch!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #3
Yup karma's a b!itch onetexan Aug 2019 #10
Rightfully so!!!!! Little Star Aug 2019 #6
She is my senator mgardener Aug 2019 #41
I don't think Al Franken would be rejoicing about this, he has a big heart, but I am rejoicing Perseus Aug 2019 #9
No indication that her polling was affected by Franken... brooklynite Aug 2019 #37
Klobuchar certainly did not! question everything Aug 2019 #63
Yes she did; she just didn't say it publicly. brooklynite Aug 2019 #68
As she should question everything Aug 2019 #72
Well, if Amy Kloubuchar had worked so closely with him over such a long time, amywalk Aug 2019 #77
i don't think so. Franken will smile when trump is gone JI7 Aug 2019 #22
And so am I. Jane Austin Aug 2019 #23
Nah. I don't think that is Al's style. CentralMass Aug 2019 #24
Quite right. It's not. DFW Aug 2019 #66
About time. n/t customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #4
Oopsie. Oh, well... no text sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #5
Karma, baby left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #7
Hallelujah ! Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #8
Good. Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 #11
God's bestie Karma took care of it. underthematrix Aug 2019 #12
Buh Bye... (as predicted the day you announced) hlthe2b Aug 2019 #13
Curious who you are leaning toward in race for the nomination given 4 Dem Senators rpannier Aug 2019 #18
Not going to play this game. She led the charge. She's admitted so and tried to benefit from it. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #21
You are brave to say this. murielm99 Aug 2019 #47
Thank you, Senator. DinahMoeHum Aug 2019 #14
Bye, Felicia SansACause Aug 2019 #15
I'm sorry to hear that wildflower Aug 2019 #16
Rachel will be poofing her tonite. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #17
I'm thinking Rachel will be too busy with the Lawrence O'Donnell thing, keeping her job yaesu Aug 2019 #20
What wrath? LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #25
Why Rachel? Boomer Aug 2019 #55
Well, bye JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2019 #19
Yep keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #59
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. LisaL Aug 2019 #26
Actually, MurrayDelph Aug 2019 #70
So now I can say that she was at the very bottom of my list. TNNurse Aug 2019 #27
Could never forgive her over Al. Still bitter about it amuse bouche Aug 2019 #28
So am I. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #31
:( :( usaf-vet Aug 2019 #29
now if the next bottom 6 could do the same we'll be getting somewhere TeamPooka Aug 2019 #30
Good Lotusflower70 Aug 2019 #33
Bye n/t jaysunb Aug 2019 #35
She kneecapped Franken for THIS? BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2019 #36
The ambition, it burns. dchill Aug 2019 #39
Her best move yet. dchill Aug 2019 #38
Good. Polly Hennessey Aug 2019 #42
Aw shucks......no mileage from throwing Franken under the bus Bengus81 Aug 2019 #43
Yeah, But Would She Support Franken? NonPC Aug 2019 #46
I would love for Franken to be the Democratic nominee. StevieM Aug 2019 #61
Oh so sorry for her... RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2019 #48
Good. calimary Aug 2019 #49
I've never been so proud... SergeStorms Aug 2019 #50
Maybe Franken will The Wizard Aug 2019 #52
I hope it was worth it, Gill. RhodeIslandOne Aug 2019 #51
And so the winnowing begins. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #53
Meanwhile a bunch of mediocre dudes stay in. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #54
I appreciate her voice for women, and hope she becomes a force in the Senate. ancianita Aug 2019 #56
K.G. Flubbed the Franken matter. suegeo Aug 2019 #57
We don't need the trite "bring people together" and "inspire" bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #58
I think I found the Al Franken appreciation thread! nt hay rick Aug 2019 #60
Be patient DFW Aug 2019 #67
I think she will have a very long time to reflect on what she did to amywalk Aug 2019 #62
I suppose so...she'll be re-elected to the Senate as long as she wants to brooklynite Aug 2019 #74
May offend a few but... Happy Dance! BootinUp Aug 2019 #64
I like your levels, FRANKLY nice touch! Brainfodder Aug 2019 #75
Her calculated and (IMHO) manupulative, and Upthevibe Aug 2019 #65
Good thing the other Senate candidates got a pass, right? brooklynite Aug 2019 #73
who? Demonaut Aug 2019 #71

TeamPooka

(24,217 posts)
32. Agreed. Subthread: does anyone around here think she's a serious VP candidate? I don't.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:49 PM
Aug 2019

I don't see what she adds to a ticket better than anyone else.

eppur_se_muova

(36,257 posts)
69. No way. Just compare her to Klobuchar ...
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 07:51 AM
Aug 2019

If you want a woman on the ticket, AK brings a lot more centrist, Midwestern voters than most other candidates. KG would drive them away.

 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
34. Agreed
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019

What she pulled on Al Franken was outrageous. If we are getting all "me too" why the silence on Bernie Sander's creepy stag magazine rape fantasies that he wrote. Seriously.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
44. People did bring that up last primary
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:24 PM
Aug 2019

Plenty of Bernie haters bring it up.

There is a difference between writing something and unwanted touching.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. I don't think Al Franken would be rejoicing about this, he has a big heart, but I am rejoicing
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:44 PM
Aug 2019

I have no idea why she thought she had any chance, maybe before the Franken fiasco she could have had a small chance, but not after that.

brooklynite

(94,484 posts)
37. No indication that her polling was affected by Franken...
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:06 PM
Aug 2019

Sanders, Harris and Warren are at the top. Bennet, Booker and Klobuchar are at the bottom. They all took the same position on Franken.

brooklynite

(94,484 posts)
68. Yes she did; she just didn't say it publicly.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 06:24 AM
Aug 2019
Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar, who serves in the Senate representing Minnesota with Al Franken, explained Friday that she didn't publicly ask Franken to resign this week because of their relationship.

"I had condemned his conduct early on when the first allegation was made," she told CNN's Dana Bash on "Inside Politics." "I felt I was in a different role as his colleague, that I'm someone that has worked with him for a long time, there's a lot of trust there, and I felt it was best to handle it in that way."

In a coordinated effort, female Democratic senators called for Franken's resignation in rapid fire Wednesday. Klobuchar did not join in that effort and said in a statement at the time that she spoke with him privately. By Wednesday evening, more than two dozen senators -- including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer -- had called for Franken's resignation.

"I talked to him about the fact that you had reached the situation with the mounting allegations and the fact that there was an ethics investigation going on," Klobuchar told CNN Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/amy-klobuchar-senate-al-franken-minnesota/index.html

question everything

(47,462 posts)
72. As she should
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:29 PM
Aug 2019

Even before everyone jumped on Franken I knew that it was over. That he was losing his effectiveness constantly fighting new allegations. They (Roger Stone?) knew what they were doing. Which means that if Franken is in office again, these "allegations" will resume.

But Klouchar, as a friend, as a decent person, talked to him privately. She did not use this as a jumping board for the next race. As opposed to the rest of them.

amywalk

(254 posts)
77. Well, if Amy Kloubuchar had worked so closely with him over such a long time,
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:03 PM
Aug 2019

why didn’t she see it and warn him that if he didn’t stop it, she would have to ask him to resign? And as far as Roger Stone is concerned, I wouldn’t believe anything that clown has to say ever again.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
66. Quite right. It's not.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:37 AM
Aug 2019

It's her style, not his.

It's not like anyone thought she had a serious chance at this point. Al probably just smiled a small smile, commented quietly, "well, whaddya know," and read on to the next headline. He knows enough about politics to have seen this coming months ago. It was just a matter of when, not "if."

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. Karma, baby
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:43 PM
Aug 2019

Throughout the race, Ms. Gillibrand averaged less than 1 percent support in national surveys and struggled to raise money.

hlthe2b

(102,197 posts)
13. Buh Bye... (as predicted the day you announced)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:46 PM
Aug 2019

Temper your opportunism, go back to the Senate, and actually help us counter the RW extremism. I still won't forget about Al Franken, but you can help us all move past it.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
18. Curious who you are leaning toward in race for the nomination given 4 Dem Senators
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:22 PM
Aug 2019

and 1 that caucuses called for him to step down (Bennet, Booker, Harris, Sanders and Warren)
The majority of the caucus called for him to step down
Your senator Michael Bennet (running for Pres) sent out
Sexual harassment and misconduct are never acceptable. I understand Senator Franken will make an announcement tomorrow morning, and I'm confident he'll do the right thing and step aside.

Are not forgetting hat about all of them, or just one Senator?

hlthe2b

(102,197 posts)
21. Not going to play this game. She led the charge. She's admitted so and tried to benefit from it.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:28 PM
Aug 2019

She essentially staked her whole campaign on having done so and expressed no regret whatsoever. All of which makes her stand out from the others, their culpability notwithstanding.

murielm99

(30,730 posts)
47. You are brave to say this.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019

I agree. When an elected person loses the support of his or her coalition, they should step down. It was unfair, but he knew he had to do this.

I hope to see him vindicated. I hope to see him back in the public eye, or in some type of leadership position again.

wildflower

(3,196 posts)
16. I'm sorry to hear that
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:53 PM
Aug 2019

She has consistently stood up for women, particularly with regard to sexual harassment and assault, and I was glad she was there to keep that issue in the primary.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
20. I'm thinking Rachel will be too busy with the Lawrence O'Donnell thing, keeping her job
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:24 PM
Aug 2019

to do any poofing, she & Lawrence are feeling the wrath of the orange Con.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
27. So now I can say that she was at the very bottom of my list.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:37 PM
Aug 2019

She has some good ideas but her attack on Al Franken made me despise her.

TeamPooka

(24,217 posts)
30. now if the next bottom 6 could do the same we'll be getting somewhere
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:45 PM
Aug 2019

hopefully there's some serious soul searching over the holiday weekend for the bottom 6-7 out of 20 left, whoever they are.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
36. She kneecapped Franken for THIS?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:58 PM
Aug 2019

I sure hope all four of her supporters stay on board and don’t attempt a “Bernie Bro” style sabotage campaign. 🙄

Polly Hennessey

(6,793 posts)
42. Good.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:12 PM
Aug 2019

She did this to herself. Also, after watching and listening to her I have doubts she would have made the grade with or without Franken.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
43. Aw shucks......no mileage from throwing Franken under the bus
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:15 PM
Aug 2019

Hope that's a lesson learned................

NonPC

(298 posts)
46. Yeah, But Would She Support Franken?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:36 PM
Aug 2019

I want Al to run as the Democratic nominee. I think he could break this whole thing open. Wonder if she would live up to her promise to support the nominee? Wouldn't that be sweet?

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
61. I would love for Franken to be the Democratic nominee.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:36 PM
Aug 2019

My first choice ticket would probably be Al Franken for president and Sally Yates for vice-president.

I also like Tom Vilsack as a possible running-mate. I think Hillary should have picked him in 2016.

I am not sure if Franken would enter the race while Amy Klobuchar is still in it.

If Franken entered he would immediately start taking a whole lot of voters from Biden, Warren, Harris and Buttigieg. I could actually see him winning the nomination and winning the presidency.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
50. I've never been so proud...
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:51 PM
Aug 2019

to recommend a post in all my time at DU. She's my Senator and I'll vote for her (unless another democrat runs against her in a primary) but I can honestly say she's not on my christmas card list.

suegeo

(2,573 posts)
57. K.G. Flubbed the Franken matter.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:37 PM
Aug 2019

K.G. Did not speak to any Franken accuser. How can she say the accusations were credible when she didn't speak with or listen to any accuser? Not one.

She could've used her cred to expose Roger Stone for the 🐀effer he is. She could've ordered basic background checks, extensive checks, that could of turned up Putin knows what.

Any $ she has left should go to support Tina Smith of Minnesota. Or the DFL.

I really dislike the Jr. Senator from New York. Schumer doesn't rate well either.

Gillibrand blew it.

bucolic_frolic

(43,122 posts)
58. We don't need the trite "bring people together" and "inspire"
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:41 PM
Aug 2019

We need brass knuckles and policies to reverse what we can, the wisdom to know what to do, and the determination to see it through

DFW

(54,330 posts)
67. Be patient
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:49 AM
Aug 2019

We have about three posters on DU that only show up to bash Al Franken the second his name appears.

The thread was about Gillibrand pulling out of the presidential race, anyway. She was doing neither herself nor the race any good in the first place, so she made the right decision in any case.

amywalk

(254 posts)
62. I think she will have a very long time to reflect on what she did to
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:53 PM
Aug 2019

ruin a good man’s reputation and career. She didn’t feel it was necessary to take any time to investigate the charges, go over the so-called “evidence” and make a decision after the trial instead of before it. She wanted to be president and thought she could ride the wave of #MeToo’s right up to the front door of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. She made a blatantly political move to rid herself of a future opponent and elevate her #MeToo cred, but it turned out to not only be a colossally bad move, it was staggeringly stupid. Without all of this mess, she would have been a top 3 contender and perhaps, the first woman president. I wonder if she thinks it was worth it?

Upthevibe

(8,032 posts)
65. Her calculated and (IMHO) manupulative, and
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:05 AM
Aug 2019

egregious actions (that at the time I think she viewed as a perfect opportunity) regarding Al Franken really backfired. I'm glad she's out...

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